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Newbie Guide To TGP's - Everything Ive Learned
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If you're too lazy to do something as simple as change a few numbers to get it right, how do you expect to make any money?Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
I agree though i forgot to mention it until the end and i was too lazy to change all the step numbers, LOL!!Comment
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thats right ..... keep on flaminHEY!!
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I love when ppl have these great theories. :D
here is mine
Stop wasting time making a huge post and make a site.
400k tgp in to time. Yup that put a smile on my face, so according to this, u can make 5 of these in no time, then merge them an do what no one has been able to accomplish in about 5 yrs. (1st on sextracker).
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Originally posted by cutetwink
You ask for it man why not just not post on the boards and bust your ass getting more traffic, making more sites, and getting some sign ups....
Just think of the hours you lose posting here... you could be making some coin.
my avg hours here have been about 30hrs streight, then i crash, then i do it again ...
only so much you can do before you gotta take a break and hit the boards for a bit.
Surely you can understand since you yourself are posting here also.HEY!!
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How long were you at it? Can't expect a site like that to make a profit overnight. These things take time.Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
I dont doubt it, but if you dont mind sharing?
I do this all the time, i work out a whole system in my head and it looks perfect, ends up being a fucking disaster!
Like my DVD site, my first step into this biz and i thought was gonna be HUGE!!! I mean i was on phone with distributers, bargaining for deals saying "Look pal, my site is launching in less than a week and if you want to keep my business, you need to come down .. end of story." and they did! lol
Well turns out i blew $3k on site development, $2k on DVD's, and made maybe $1k off it TOTAL.
Oh well, live and learn, hehComment
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He's a clueless newbie who, by his own admission can't make enough to pay his rent - he has a fantastic idea to make money from a TGP - he hasn't actually tried it but he still claims its fool-proof.
Am I being too rigid in my thinking here or does this flea have a serious credibility problem?Left intentionally blank ... just like my brainComment
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You hit the point. The rule applies in porn as much as in any other business, success is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.Originally posted by The Other Steve
He's a clueless newbie who, by his own admission can't make enough to pay his rent - he has a fantastic idea to make money from a TGP - he hasn't actually tried it but he still claims its fool-proof.Comment
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Originally posted by chodadog
I think it's hilarious that somebody who can't afford a banner is giving advice on how to run a successful website. Fucking pathetic, actually.
Is it really that pathetic?
hmm maybe i should delete my disclaimer where it admits this is a theory and has not yet been tested, i mean fucking idiots like you dont bother reading it anyhow ....
Since when has a theory been proposed AFTER testing?
but your right ... im pathetic because i cant pay my rent, and that makes me a bad person who doesnt know how to use his fucking brain and think of stuff .... you hit the money on that one
fucking moronsHEY!!
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Your best post yet!
You said this is everything you've learned.... but this is only everything you've dreamed. That was your first mistake. You went downhill from there.
Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Since when has a theory been proposed AFTER testing?
but your right ... im pathetic because i cant pay my rent, and that makes me a bad person who doesnt know how to use his fucking brain and think of stuff .... you hit the money on that one
fucking morons
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My Advice lilrich. Dont post your ideas that could possibly make money on the board.
Save them for the time that you can execute them yourself.
This isn't a GNU public forum. And if you've got something that is worth wild you can bet your ass 1,000 webmasters will exploit it before you have a chance.Comment
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Cut the guy some fucking slack and stop twisting his words.. DID HE SAY IT WAS Fool proof?Originally posted by The Other Steve
He's a clueless newbie who, by his own admission can't make enough to pay his rent - he has a fantastic idea to make money from a TGP - he hasn't actually tried it but he still claims its fool-proof.
Am I being too rigid in my thinking here or does this flea have a serious credibility problem?
As far as i can see you're the fucking idiot who needs to twist what people say to make some stupid post so they can increase their post count by 1..
Grow the fuck upComment
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Really eh?Originally posted by Tuga
Your best post yet!
You said this is everything you've learned.... but this is only everything you've dreamed. That was your first mistake. You went downhill from there.
SO he just dreamed the TGP shit out of nowhere? Clearly he has learned something to be able to post some advice, which to me seems pretty sound.
Lets see, hes learned you need to buy traffic. he has also learned that you need to have a decent design. He has learned that you do NEED trades. He has learned it isnt ok to copy peoples work..
Sounds like you're the dreamer here, dreaming that he has learned nothing.Comment
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
[B][b]---TGP For Dummies---
By LiL2Rich4u2
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RULE #1 - don't ever give up!
I don't know much about the tgp side of this business but I'm interested in your idea so I'm
willing to give you a chance to not only to make it work but at the same time make something
for yourself you can call your own.
Here's the deal....
I'll supply everything you need, domain, host, content, creative and the cost of 300K traffic.
When you get to step:9, I get the top banner spot and the first 5 gallery positions and
inclusion in the top list. You get 50% of every signup. Any additional revenue from the tgp
is yours.
If you can do half of what you speculate I'll go even further with you. On TGP #2, same
deal except this time I will give you content for your own site and you can have 2 of the 5
first gallery spots and we can share the top banner spot by alternating it between us.
We retain ownership of TGP#1 and you will be 100% owner of TGP#2 as well as your own
website.
If your interested let me know [email protected] . I know life is a little
tough for you right now so I'll leave the offer open so you can concentrate on getting back
on your feet. Do that first before you take this on because the time you spend on it will
be on your dime not mine. I won't forget I made this offer and it won't expire unless I do.
If anything use it as an incentive to work toward. You also don't have to take it on by
yourself so if you can find others that are willing to help you I'm find with that also.
Anyone else that reads down this far is welcome to send me an email if you have an
idea that you believe is workable traffic wise and I'll try my best to work something out
with you that benefits the both us if it's something I can believe in
[email protected]
My name is Tyler Cash, I'm one of the owners of Sinamotion Pictures. We have recently
entered into web venture partnership with Anarchy Films and a European investor. We
are content rich starting out the gate we over 2,000 hours of hardcore video content that
covers just about every niche. We also have several unique and exclusive products that
no one else has like cinematic broadband just to name one. You can check us out at
sinamotion.com and anarchyfilmsdvd.com to learn more about us.Last edited by sinfulone; 03-18-2003, 04:53 AM.Comment
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notjoe , have you read his other posts? He said he was broke, he begged for banners, he said he was leaving, he called everyone morons several times.... and then he posts this.
I dont care how much he learned, if he still cant use it, he needs to learn more! I need to learn more, so I dont write newbie guides with lots of stuff that may be kind of true, but gets you nothing. His attitude is all messed up, he doesnt know if he should beg, teach, or insult. Dont try to be on his side, please.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sinfulone
[B]lol. That should shut most of the haters up.Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
[B]---TGP For Dummies---
By LiL2Rich4u2
ICQ - 175171926
RULE #1 - don't ever give up!
I don't know much about the tgp side of this business but I'm interested in your idea so I'm
willing to give you a chance to not only to make it work but at the same time make something
for yourself you can call your own.
Here's the deal....
I'll supply everything you need, domain, host, content, creative and the cost of 300K traffic. When
you get to step:9, I get the top banner spot and the first 5 gallery positions and inclusion in the top
list. You get 50% of every signup. Anything else including any additional revenue from the tgp is
yours to keep and do with what you want as long it's legal.
If you can do half of what you speculate I'll go even further with you. On TGP #2, same deal except
this time I will give you content for your own site and you can have 2 of the 5 first gallery spots and
we can share the top banner spot by alternating it between us.
We retain ownership of TGP#1 and you will be 100% owner of TGP#2 as well as your own website.
If your interested let me know [email protected] . I know life is a little tough for you right now so
I'll leave the offer open so you can concentrate on getting back on your feet. Do that first before you
take this on because the time you spend on it will be on your dime not mine. I won't forget I made
this offer and it won't expire unless I do. If anything use it as an incentive to work toward. You also
don't have to take it on by yourself so if you can find others that are willing to help you I'm find with
that also, the more you offer the more you get
Anyone else that reads down this far is welcome to send me an email if you have an idea that you
believe is workable traffic wise and I'll try my best to work something out with you that benefits the
both us if it's something I can believe in [email protected]
My name is Tyler Cash, I'm one of the owners of Sinamotion Pictures. We have recently entered into
web venture partnership with Anarchy Films and a European investor. We are content rich starting out
the gate we over 2,000 hours of hardcore video content that covers just about every niche. We also have
several unique and exclusive products that no one else has like cinematic broadband just to name one.
Check us out at sinamotion.com and anarchyfilmsdvd.com to learn more about us.
Nice offer Tyler. You should take him up on this lilrichComment
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Instead of wrighting this long-ass post he should have used his brain for 5 secods: "instant 400k TGP" That doesn't sound right does it ? I mean, don't you thinkif it was that easy every newbie would have a dozen 400k tgps?
One more thing: he blew 6k on one of his "great ideas" that turned out to be a disaster. You still gonna go with with his "instant 400k TGP" plan ?Comment
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Well, so far he got two offers from people who will take him up on it. I'd say writing the post has paid off.Originally posted by DarkJedi
Instead of wrighting this long-ass post he should have used his brain for 5 secods: "instant 400k TGP" That doesn't sound right does it ? I mean, don't you thinkif it was that easy every newbie would have a dozen 400k tgps?
One more thing: he blew 6k on one of his "great ideas" that turned out to be a disaster. You still gonna go with with his "instant 400k TGP" plan ?/(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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Originally posted by Tuga
notjoe , have you read his other posts? He said he was broke, he begged for banners, he said he was leaving, he called everyone morons several times.... and then he posts this.
I dont care how much he learned, if he still cant use it, he needs to learn more! I need to learn more, so I dont write newbie guides with lots of stuff that may be kind of true, but gets you nothing. His attitude is all messed up, he doesnt know if he should beg, teach, or insult. Dont try to be on his side, please.
Lets say you did write a newbie guide and stuff was wrong and people corrected him, is he not learning how it is done, even though he has his guide out?
Do you think writing one guide is the definitive answer forever? Guides get updated, worked on. If you learn something and stop learning you will die off.
The internet and its ever expanding technologies is about constant learning. Do you think that SE Guru's who write a guide will only write it once or will they update it? Go read some Guides about SE optimization from a few years ago and watch how fast your sites will get banned from google (and others).
Hell, when i lauched HostedContent.Com i thought i had everything ironed out, everything setup the way it should be. I build, lauched it and made something out of it and let me tell you, my learning hasnt stopped with this project. My learning curve, although not as steep as it could be is still a curve of constant learning.
To say someone is an idiot because they wrote something is just as foolish as him calling everyone a moron (and yes i did take offense to that since i had tried to help him out a lot) but do you take the time to single everyone out or do you tend to make generalized comments as well?
To make a long story short. Yes he has burned some bridges (havent we all?) and yes he is still learning and clearly is a newbie to the biz, BUT he is making the effort to expand and diverse into other fields.. if you dont do that that is where you will die.Comment
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If I had the money for 300k I'd try it out. anyway half the fun is in the process of getting to the end result. Would be interesting
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But it still takes the effort of others to work.. lets say heOriginally posted by DarkJedi
Instead of wrighting this long-ass post he should have used his brain for 5 secods: "instant 400k TGP" That doesn't sound right does it ? I mean, don't you thinkif it was that easy every newbie would have a dozen 400k tgps?
One more thing: he blew 6k on one of his "great ideas" that turned out to be a disaster. You still gonna go with with his "instant 400k TGP" plan ?
implemented his idea, who would he trade with, without posting?
You could have the best website in the world, but without the marketing, trades and effort you will go nowhere fast.
I would love to get into the production, deeper than i already am but why the hell would i go out and spend the 50k-100K USD to but together enough content to produce a content site (like paul markham or like matrix content) when i have absolutely no customers to sell it to... that means the content would just sit there and not make money.
If you can work with what you have to build up other ideas or make room for possible expansions then you're laughing.Comment
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First of all, its not that wasy to get (buy) quality 300k hits.
Either you end up cheated or with totally crap traffic.
And if he buys it from choker aren't they gonna be pretty much useless ? Most trading scripts count unique hits, and choker hits would be already traded several times over, so he's gonna end up with shit productivity for other TGPs.Comment
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Absolutely, but that traffic will get filtered out when it gets sent to his TGP first. That is probably why he suggested 300K hits instead of 20K hits like that other guy suggested.Originally posted by DarkJedi
First of all, its not that wasy to get (buy) quality 300k hits.
Either you end up cheated or with totally crap traffic.
And if he buys it from choker aren't they gonna be pretty much useless ? Most trading scripts count unique hits, and choker hits would be already traded several times over, so he's gonna end up with shit productivity for other TGPs.
Its too easy to look at someones work and say "this is how you make it better", but if you can manage to weed out the good advice over the flames (atleast in this thread) there is some pretty sound advice (imho) but i am no TGP expert.Comment
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notjoe I'm no expert and I can see several major flaws in his plan. Maybe one day I will know enough to actually pull it off, but right now I already know enough to understand what's wrong with is plan.
I could write a guide and then update it a year later because it no longer works, or because I learned new stuff, but I would never wite a guide that wont work since day 1.
Anyway, I agree with most of what you said in your posts
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way more factors involved, before anyone purchase traffic for thier site it is very important that they get a good base of trades and have the productivity/layout down
key to getting better productivity is choosing the correct trades with similar layouts and traffic,Comment
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I don't know if this will change anything, but when I was looking to build a TGP Jenny gave me advice to build one to 100 - 200k within a week. The plan that he gave is just about identical to what lil2Rich laid out. Only difference...Jenny suggested using less traffic to get the site going.
I did what was advised and was able to put together a 100k TGP with $150 and about 6 days of consistant work with the trades...so I think that this lil2Rich plan should work too.Comment
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Dude what are you talking about? I sell uniques not raws. The traffic I sell to TGP's is some of the most productive traffic around. I am selling/sending over 700k tgp hits a day. How many complaints have you seen about the quality of this traffic? I work very hard to make the quality of this traffic very high. Even one of my strongest critics (Pipecrew) admitted it was good shit. Per click per dollar cost I guarantee this traffic is better than any other paid source of traffic on the net. Any other traffic broker that wants to challenge me on this can put up $1000 and I will put up $1000. Winner takes all.Originally posted by DarkJedi
First of all, its not that wasy to get (buy) quality 300k hits.
Either you end up cheated or with totally crap traffic.
And if he buys it from choker aren't they gonna be pretty much useless ? Most trading scripts count unique hits, and choker hits would be already traded several times over, so he's gonna end up with shit productivity for other TGPs.
As far as the business plan this thread is about, he is pretty close to being accurate, except 300k is probably too much, 100k should be enough. But before you buy traffic test your TGP out and get the best return to trades set up first. As long as you return is over 125% your site will grow.ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

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... as long as your TGP doesn't suck.Originally posted by Choker
But before you buy traffic test your TGP out and get the best return to trades set up first. As long as you return is over 125% your site will grow.
Another thing... where is this extra 25% coming from? How can traders send more than they receive all the time? Where are these mysterious surfers coming from?Last edited by NineNine; 03-18-2003, 08:36 AM.Comment
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.... LoLoL .. kinda low dontcha think?Originally posted by SleazyDream
holly fuck - a 300-400K a day TGP could make $1000-$2000/month!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOWComment
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Yeah, some of those numbers are suspect (yes, I read the disclaimer). When I had two TGPs that only totalled about 75-100K/day I was making $900/month from Amateur Pages click program, alone. Too abd they couldn't get their shit together when I changed my address. To this day I don't use any of their programs because of that shit.Originally posted by SleazyDream
holly fuck - a 300-400K a day TGP could make $1000-$2000/month!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW
With 500K, even if you're sending a lot to trades, you ought to be doing considerably better than $1,000/month.
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