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  • drunkdollars
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 2734

    #1

    Is epoch working again?

    Anyone using epoch? They were slow for us today so we flipped to ibill.. I prefer epoch seems to convert better..


    Can i swap it back yet?
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  • AaronM
    GFY Royality ;)
    • Oct 2001
    • 46917

    #2
    I wouldn't. Numbers have sucked all week. The last explanation had something to do with an air conditioner repairman screwing something up. No joke.

    I know we are FAR from one of their largest accounts but I do not think they would want to lose our business...however...If things do not change real quick then that is likely to happen.

    They have been a topic on other boards as well.

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    • playa
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2001
      • 6432

      #3
      couple of times i was told they had to restart stat servers,, not sure what that really means as far as signups, but they assured signups were still being accounted for

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      • drunkdollars
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2002
        • 2734

        #4
        Originally posted by AaronM
        I wouldn't. Numbers have sucked all week. The last explanation had something to do with an air conditioner repairman screwing something up. No joke.

        I know we are FAR from one of their largest accounts but I do not think they would want to lose our business...however...If things do not change real quick then that is likely to happen.

        They have been a topic on other boards as well.
        Thanks for the honest reply..

        Word of advise.. cascading
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        • DrewKole
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 5193

          #5
          Thanks for the words of support, I should get my visa reg back tomorrow...

          Lets hope they get their problems fixed, grr.

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          • AaronM
            GFY Royality ;)
            • Oct 2001
            • 46917

            #6
            Originally posted by playa
            couple of times i was told they had to restart stat servers,, not sure what that really means as far as signups, but they assured signups were still being accounted for
            Perhaps those that did not hit bad servers...Maybe somebody can explain the DRASTIC cut in rebills as well....

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            • Muff
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2001
              • 1782

              #7
              Originally posted by AaronM


              Perhaps those that did not hit bad servers...Maybe somebody can explain the DRASTIC cut in rebills as well....
              Haven't noticed anything with intial joins. But rebills do seem to be slacking.

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              • drunkdollars
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2002
                • 2734

                #8
                Rebills are rocking for us its just the initial that are having problems
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                • DrewKole
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 5193

                  #9
                  Does epoch let you see how many memberships canceled themselves, rather than a denied rebill?

                  Just curious... havent seen the admin stats area yet

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                  • Snake Doctor
                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 13449

                    #10
                    I'm just a reseller, but my epoch stats have looked fine over the past few days.
                    Actually the week before last sucked really bad, but this past week and today have been great actually.

                    Not that I think the week before last had anything to do with epoch, I really don't know, but I'm much happier checking my stats today than I was on last Monday.
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                    • Hooper
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 2210

                      #11
                      Really the only way to measure a processor is to know how many surfers you sent to them, how many got approved, how many got declined and how many vanished into thin air (e.g. backed out of transaction, server problems, etc..etc...)

                      These threads dont make a lot of sense to me because most of the time people are guessing that processor is the problem when in all actuality during a day joins come in cyclical patterns, so if you change processors at the bottom of a downcycle then the processor you just switched to will suddenly look like a godsend.. and the original processor looks bad.

                      I can send 100k joins to a tour one day and make 300 joins.... send the same exact traffic the next day and make 150... the next day 400.. the next day 190...

                      Processing is really not as complicated as people make it out to be. Customer arrives, join page is displayed, fields are filled out, form is submitted, rules are applied, decline or approval is returned. Sure some processors scrub harder than others, but they are largely now all scrubbing about the same imho.

                      Bottom line... if you're focused on daily cycles you should get a good ulcer medication.
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                      • OY
                        Industry Pioneer
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 5401

                        #12
                        Jeez guys... Read my thread only thread yet?

                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=114166

                        Hooper... see you in Phoenix? How is the little one?
                        Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

                        Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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                        • drunkdollars
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 2734

                          #13
                          Hooper..
                          We were doin X amount of JPM. and we went to 0 JPM..
                          I flipped to ib and we were doing a little less than XJPMs..

                          I know its all about the weekly conversions but I was just looking to know where to "flip my switch" ya know?
                          SIGS ARE GAY

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                          • playa
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 6432

                            #14
                            Originally posted by drunkdollars
                            JPM

                            is this some kind of new internet term?

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                            • drops
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 1116

                              #15
                              still converting <1:200

                              sunday was slow... but then again.. its sunday... things look back to normal.
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                              • OY
                                Industry Pioneer
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 5401

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Oystein
                                Jeez guys... Read my thread only thread yet?

                                http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=114166

                                Hooper... see you in Phoenix? How is the little one?
                                CORRECTION: ONLY THREAD EVER...

                                Duh............

                                Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

                                Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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                                • drunkdollars
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 2734

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by playa



                                  is this some kind of new internet term?

                                  Joins per minute..

                                  I was dreaming and messing with hoop
                                  SIGS ARE GAY

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                                  • playa
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 6432

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by drunkdollars



                                    Joins per minute..

                                    I was dreaming and messing with hoop

                                    ya that would be a nice stat to have,, lol

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                                    • OY
                                      Industry Pioneer
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 5401

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by playa



                                      ya that would be a nice stat to have,, lol
                                      Hey Playa...

                                      www.playasolutions.com

                                      ;-)

                                      Go there to get it...
                                      Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

                                      Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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                                      • playa
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 6432

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Oystein


                                        Hey Playa...

                                        www.playasolutions.com

                                        ;-)

                                        Go there to get it...

                                        i knew i should of copyright my name back in 1998

                                        i have been asked several times if i was associated with that site

                                        but for sure if you going to phoenix forum i would love to talk face to face to see if we can work something out

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                                        • Shoplifter
                                          Richest man in Babylon
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 5863

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by drunkdollars
                                          Anyone using epoch? They were slow for us today so we flipped to ibill.. I prefer epoch seems to convert better..


                                          Can i swap it back yet?

                                          Curious...I found that Ibill dropped out today.
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                                          • Chris Mallick
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 679

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Hooper
                                            Really the only way to measure a processor is to know how many surfers you sent to them, how many got approved, how many got declined and how many vanished into thin air (e.g. backed out of transaction, server problems, etc..etc...)

                                            These threads dont make a lot of sense to me because most of the time people are guessing that processor is the problem when in all actuality during a day joins come in cyclical patterns, so if you change processors at the bottom of a downcycle then the processor you just switched to will suddenly look like a godsend.. and the original processor looks bad.

                                            I can send 100k joins to a tour one day and make 300 joins.... send the same exact traffic the next day and make 150... the next day 400.. the next day 190...

                                            Processing is really not as complicated as people make it out to be. Customer arrives, join page is displayed, fields are filled out, form is submitted, rules are applied, decline or approval is returned. Sure some processors scrub harder than others, but they are largely now all scrubbing about the same imho.

                                            Bottom line... if you're focused on daily cycles you should get a good ulcer medication.
                                            Hooper is correct. These threads don?t make a lot of sense to me either.

                                            Sign ups are normal here. Yes we cycled some servers a few days ago and had a bad thermostat that caused a problem, but that was a 10-minute thing.

                                            Maybe some reasons for lower sales yesterday, and I?m just guessing here, but just maybe:

                                            1. The President of The United States of America was on TV preparing the world for war.
                                            2. It is Spring Break in the US and the College Campuses are empty.

                                            These are just 2 factors that could lead to slower or lower sales.

                                            If an EPOCH client thinks sales are off and has any hard data (logs) on how many sign up requests you sent to the Join Form on any day and that day was a ?good day? for you, let us know. Then, when you see a lower number, first compare the stats on that basis. We just deal with requests, so lower web traffic, hits to your sites, etc are completely beyond our control.

                                            I think it is pretty widespread knowledge that we do everything we can to sell your products to those you bring to the Join Form and we do one of the best jobs in the industry to keep your members. We have one of the best ?up time? records in the industry. If we are down, yes sales will be affected. Otherwise, without hard data on the number of people that made it to the form, we can?t correlate lower sales with anything here.

                                            And no? we have not changed our scrub.

                                            Please call or email your sales rep or our 24x7 Tech Support at ext. 320 if you are experiencing any problems. We can?t fix everything, as everything is not in our control, but we can help. We are aligned: The more you sell, the more we sell. So we are here and listening.

                                            C

                                            Chris Mallick
                                            [email protected]

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