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03-16-2003, 02:38 PM

a spammer is using my return address as the reply-to:.

Of course I only get the bounces. I've gotten 10,000 so far today.

I'm amazed that I have not gotten even one bitch so far but that can't last.

His spams usually don't have affiliate tracking links, just straight links to his sponsor. Many of his sponsors are in USA.

I need to stop this guy, but first I need to ID him. Outside of getting my lawyer involved to supeona the info from his sponsors, how can I ID this guy?

He is using a different mail server every time, I'm sure he's relaying.

Help appreciated.

Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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03-16-2003, 02:46 PM

Just tell the sponsor whats going on
wich sponsor is it?
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03-16-2003, 02:48 PM

Take a look in the mail path. usually it will have some info to start with.

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03-16-2003, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by wimpy
a spammer is using my return address as the reply-to:.

Of course I only get the bounces. I've gotten 10,000 so far today.

I'm amazed that I have not gotten even one bitch so far but that can't last.

His spams usually don't have affiliate tracking links, just straight links to his sponsor. Many of his sponsors are in USA.

I need to stop this guy, but first I need to ID him. Outside of getting my lawyer involved to supeona the info from his sponsors, how can I ID this guy?

He is using a different mail server every time, I'm sure he's relaying.

Help appreciated.

PASTE ONE OF OF HIS MAILS HERE WITH FULL HEADDERS

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03-16-2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by silver

PASTE ONE OF OF HIS MAILS HERE WITH FULL HEADDERS

Full headers should do it.
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03-16-2003, 03:04 PM

different sponsors. He's obviously a spammer for hire.

Some of the bounces quote back HIS headers, which I think is what we need here. I've change my domain name to mydomain.com:

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: (qmail 5540 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 23:38:17 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO email-96.ig.com.br) ([200.226.132.99])
(envelope-sender <uvilr@ mydomain.com>)
by mailserver-3.ig.com.br (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
for <[email protected]>; 16 Mar 2003 23:38:17 -0000
Received: (qmail 18189 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2003 23:11:49 -0000
Received: from mail.langstonwilliams.com (HELO mydomain.com) (204.229.126.206)
by email-96.ig.com.br with SMTP; 16 Mar 2003 23:11:49 -0000
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:49:00 -0600
From: "Fly the Legend" <uvilr@ mydomain.com>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Military Adventures in Russia - Fly to the Stratoshere!
Content-type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Message-ID: <20030316104900.ftxeuLNu0NSW@ mydomain.com>

Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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03-16-2003, 03:07 PM

200.226.132.99 resolves to email-96.ig.com.br

Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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03-16-2003, 03:52 PM

seriously your wasting your time if he is a pro spammer using proxy's and stuff, very hard to track unless you can contact all the proxy owners its gonna be hard to track, best set a filter to delete bounces,

i get the impression you pissed off a spammer and he is getting some revenge on you

best of luck to you buddy
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03-16-2003, 04:30 PM

I can't imagine how I'd piss off a spammer. Unless he also cheats my trades, but that's business. We all kick scammers off our trades.

How about by hassling his sponsors? they gotta be sending checks someplace. I can subpoena them, just don't want to go that route.

I don't need to shut down this spammer, I just need to make enough trouble for him that he stops using my addy.

Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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03-16-2003, 04:39 PM

What are you going to do if you do catch him?

Sue him in some third world country?

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03-16-2003, 04:51 PM

I don't need to sue him. I don't even need to find out who he is.

I need to hassle his sponsors until I get his attention.

I guess that's my answer. Please post if you have a better idea.

Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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03-16-2003, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by wimpy
I don't need to sue him. I don't even need to find out who he is.

I need to hassle his sponsors until I get his attention.

I guess that's my answer. Please post if you have a better idea.

Shuttiing his sponsor accounts is the best idea. You should lean on them. Usually, they will at least tell you that they shut him down. We've had this happen quite a bit and it's a pain in the ass. There is little you can do short of, as you've already said, getting his sponsor accounts and hosting terminated.

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03-16-2003, 05:19 PM

My suggestion to you is to setup filters, or change your email, there is no way to find him, unless you are friends with the sponsor he is spammin.
Don't even try to close his accounts, if he is spamming, his sponsor allow him to do so.

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03-16-2003, 05:29 PM

You could try and find a contact or an admin that runs this mail server email-96.ig.com.br

Probabably an unsecured server that he is using as a relay.

They maybe able to help you find out who was relaying thru them.
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03-16-2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Muff
You could try and find a contact or an admin that runs this mail server email-96.ig.com.br

Probabably an unsecured server that he is using as a relay.

They maybe able to help you find out who was relaying thru them.

Do you know how many spammers were relaying that server?
I don;t think you do.

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03-16-2003, 05:34 PM

kill him

No signature.. I am bored of the signatures aswell..
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03-16-2003, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by PostWhore

Don't even try to close his accounts, if he is spamming, his sponsor allow him to do so.

This is not always true. It's possible to have people shut down with sponsors where you do more business with them than the spammer does.

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03-16-2003, 07:19 PM

I'm not thinking so much of shutting down his sponsors as I am of sueing his sponsors.

What damages? It don't matter if there are damages. Filing the lawsuit will require a reply, and replies cost money. that's gotta eventually hurt that fuck.

btw, I know how to filter. My concern is that I will catch heat for his spam. that's why I gotta make him stop even if it costs money.

Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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03-16-2003, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

This is not always true. It's possible to have people shut down with sponsors where you do more business with them than the spammer does.

Yes this is true, but I just guess that he doesn't know who he spams

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