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  • skillfull
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    • Apr 2003
    • 4716

    #1

    a way to stop shaving

    I was trying to sleep, was thinking about all this shaving bullshit and i think i find out a solution.

    A possible way to stop shaving
    1- get a digital camera, and take picture of all the process
    2- get 10 people in the same room with a credit card and a computer
    3- setup a virgin affiliate account on a sponsor
    4- send bullshit traffic (proxies/hitbot) to the sponsors join page
    5- each people in the room sign-up on the sponsor site using is cc (using proxies or different ip adress, whatever)
    6- enter the paysite with each new account (to test it really worked)
    7- check your affiliates stat, you will see if the sponsor shaved you or not
    8- repeat the operation using different sponsors
    9 - post the fucking results on GFY and send those fuckers out of business (with all picts + screenshot)

    im thinking the internext is a good place to test it

    its time to stop the scammers
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  • SoundMan
    So Fucking Banned
    • Nov 2003
    • 3471

    #2
    Well the best way to stop shaving is ??


    GROW A BEARD!

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    • woj
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      • Jul 2002
      • 47882

      #3
      Or, you can just promote sponsors that make you the most money per banner impression or per click?
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      • psyko514
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        • Oct 2002
        • 22366

        #4
        that would qualify as cheating the sponsor...

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        • TheViper
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          • Mar 2003
          • 2560

          #5
          Originally posted by psyko514
          that would qualify as cheating the sponsor...
          fuck yea, that is as bad as shaving.

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          • twistyneck
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2002
            • 4660

            #6
            Originally posted by woj
            Or, you can just promote sponsors that make you the most money per banner impression or per click?
            If you don't mind them stealing from you, sure. Best bet is to set up your own programs.

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            • integrated
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              • Apr 2003
              • 3826

              #7
              Originally posted by TheViper


              fuck yea, that is as bad as shaving.
              revenge is sweet

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              • bhutocracy
                Not making A Comeback
                • Dec 2001
                • 10218

                #8
                are you going to chargeback on those credit cards or what? what about shave scripts that only kick in after the first few signups to make sure they don't shave test sign ups?

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                • integrated
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                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3826

                  #9
                  Originally posted by woj
                  Or, you can just promote sponsors that make you the most money per banner impression or per click?
                  i hate ppl who keep arguing this point

                  you do know they are still stealing from you?

                  you can argue until you are blue in the face but to adopt this attitude is silly and in the long ran you will get fucked over more and more as the sponsor thinks they can get away with raising the shave %
                  arrrhhh.

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                  • integrated
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                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3826

                    #10
                    the only way i c to stop this is to get the processors to monitor

                    doubt that will ever happen

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                    • woj
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 47882

                      #11
                      Originally posted by integrated


                      i hate ppl who keep arguing this point

                      you do know they are still stealing from you?

                      you can argue until you are blue in the face but to adopt this attitude is silly and in the long ran you will get fucked over more and more as the sponsor thinks they can get away with raising the shave %
                      arrrhhh.
                      yes, but promoting most profitable sponsor is the only viable solution. Getting 10 friends to sign up for your account sounds great in theory but in practice won't work.
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                      • yeviking
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                        • Sep 2003
                        • 589

                        #12
                        Its good Idea!
                        FUCK those shavers!

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                        • Zappu
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1556

                          #13
                          a way to stop shaving
                          I guess an easier way will be to set up your own member sites and corporate with some other webmasters by swapping traffic.
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                          • NoAngel
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 333

                            #14
                            for sure, not any easy issue

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                            • skillfull
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                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4716

                              #15
                              back from bed
                              10 - after the test is done, cancel the affiliate account ,the goal isnt to make cash but to test who is a thieves or not, and no no dont chargeback, 1 month subscription is cheap to knowwho stole and who is honest
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                              • V_RocKs
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                                • Nov 2003
                                • 32449

                                #16
                                Perhaps you could mirror the prejoin page (username,password,email) and then also mirror the second one (all other information) and actually send the information to the proccessor from your own website. Then you would know that your information went to the proccessor. And how often it was sent. Now see if they came back in and shaved you.

                                Not sure about the legality of having them send their CC info through your server. And I am sure the proccessors are scratching their heads about this ;)

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                                • Furious_Male
                                  Doing the grind since 99
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 16884

                                  #17
                                  I dont think it would be as effective with a virgin account. The shave may not kick in for several sign ups later. Use a well worn account and simply tell the program after the test what you were doing. They may be a little offended but if they have nothing to hide and don't pay you for the transactions they shouldn't care.
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                                  • Trax
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                                    • Aug 2001
                                    • 14486

                                    #18
                                    Ok
                                    its like this

                                    it is not cheating the sponsor if you do not charge back and let the sponsor know after the test so that they NOT pay you for those signups

                                    did that a few tims already
                                    all sponsor were cool with this...


                                    it can easily work
                                    we just need a couple of webmasters like me and you, a small HTML page as a referer and 10 credit cards

                                    this is REALLY no problem...

                                    if anyone wants to test sponsors...
                                    i am in

                                    just msg me
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                                    • skillfull
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                                      • Apr 2003
                                      • 4716

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Trax
                                      Ok
                                      its like this

                                      it is not cheating the sponsor if you do not charge back and let the sponsor know after the test so that they NOT pay you for those signups

                                      did that a few tims already
                                      all sponsor were cool with this...


                                      it can easily work
                                      we just need a couple of webmasters like me and you, a small HTML page as a referer and 10 credit cards

                                      this is REALLY no problem...

                                      if anyone wants to test sponsors...
                                      i am in

                                      just msg me
                                      59 101 924
                                      way to go !
                                      if we wanna fight shaving
                                      webmasters must unite !
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                                      • Phrona
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 96

                                        #20
                                        I think the best way is to track sent hits by your custom made script and choose sponsors that pays you the most $$$ per click, no matter if they shave or not

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                                        • skillfull
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                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 4716

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Phrona
                                          I think the best way is to track sent hits by your custom made script and choose sponsors that pays you the most $$$ per click, no matter if they shave or not
                                          tolerate thievery is a dump solution
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                                          • Phrona
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 96

                                            #22
                                            ... and this could be rated as a cheating of the sponsors (YOU would cheat the sponsor - don't say you wouldn't require the payment ) so I think that when there would be 10 sign-ups from your region, they (or their script) would notice it. I think this idea suck. The action with PIBCash was OK, but this????

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                                            • sixxxth_sense
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 2430

                                              #23
                                              Sounds like a great IDEA!!! Great thinking...

                                              Whoever said "that would mean cheating the sponsor" probablly has a shaving ass sponsor him self or is a fucking retard...

                                              This could be HUGE! ! ! . . .

                                              this can be organized nacely and broadcasted LIVE!!!...

                                              I bet u a lot of those phuckers would attempt to bribe u hahah

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                                              • Phrona
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                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 96

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sixxxth_sense
                                                Sounds like a great IDEA!!! Great thinking...

                                                Whoever said "that would mean cheating the sponsor" probablly has a shaving ass sponsor him self or is a fucking retard...

                                                This could be HUGE! ! ! . . .

                                                this can be organized nacely and broadcasted LIVE!!!...

                                                I bet u a lot of those phuckers would attempt to bribe u hahah
                                                I say it is cheating, although I don't own any sponsor. I just submit galleries, run TGP and buy traffic. That's all

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                                                • Rich
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                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 11486

                                                  #25
                                                  That's a good idea, only send a little bullshit Choker traffic instead of hitbot traffic.

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                                                  • Kick Ass Chat
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                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 2057

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by psyko514
                                                    that would qualify as cheating the sponsor...
                                                    Why would it be cheating the sponsor??...Nobody ever said anything about cancelling or charging back the test sign ups???

                                                    This Idea is not bad at all, well at least it's a step in the right direction.
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                                                    • RogerV
                                                      Banned!
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 12591

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by skillfull
                                                      I was trying to sleep, was thinking about all this shaving bullshit and i think i find out a solution.

                                                      A possible way to stop shaving
                                                      1- get a digital camera, and take picture of all the process
                                                      2- get 10 people in the same room with a credit card and a computer
                                                      3- setup a virgin affiliate account on a sponsor
                                                      4- send bullshit traffic (proxies/hitbot) to the sponsors join page
                                                      5- each people in the room sign-up on the sponsor site using is cc (using proxies or different ip adress, whatever)
                                                      6- enter the paysite with each new account (to test it really worked)
                                                      7- check your affiliates stat, you will see if the sponsor shaved you or not
                                                      8- repeat the operation using different sponsors
                                                      9 - post the fucking results on GFY and send those fuckers out of business (with all picts + screenshot)

                                                      im thinking the internext is a good place to test it

                                                      its time to stop the scammers
                                                      we have a system in place for acounts sending hitbot traffic etc. so your acount would get flagged and not paid.

                                                      But I think its a great idea to at least see if the join is recorded
                                                      Last edited by RogerV; 12-11-2003, 10:13 AM.

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                                                      • Zappu
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                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 1556

                                                        #28
                                                        2- get 10 people in the same room with a credit card and a computer
                                                        ....
                                                        5- each people in the room sign-up on the sponsor site using is cc
                                                        That are probably more sign ups a day what 80% of the partner programs will usually make within a month
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                                                        • BSleazy
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                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 6721

                                                          #29
                                                          Every sponsor reading this is gonna turn off shaving for a while
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                                                          • Furious_Male
                                                            Doing the grind since 99
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 16884

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by RogerV


                                                            we have a system in place for acounts sending hitbot traffic etc. so your acount would get flagged and not paid.

                                                            But I think its a great idea to at least see if the join is recorded
                                                            With a PPS program why would you flag accounts with hit bot traffic? Perhaps someones TGP was getting hammered with hit bot traffic going through to your program. Hit bots can't join the site. Other then using some resources they are just a pain in the ass. Or are you refering to PPC?
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                                                            • RogerV
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 12591

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Furious_Male


                                                              With a PPS program why would you flag accounts with hit bot traffic? Perhaps someones TGP was getting hammered with hit bot traffic going through to your program. Hit bots can't join the site. Other then using some resources they are just a pain in the ass. Or are you refering to PPC?
                                                              Acounts get flagged for many reasons this doesn't mean they don't get paid we just keep an eye on them.

                                                              I know when someone is sending fake traffic and entering fraudulent credit cards. Obviously a few joins here and there get by but if a webmasters is fraudulant we catch them.

                                                              Most of the time fraudulant webmasters will send all hitbot traffic.
                                                              if its mixed it's a little tough to catch at first. an acount will get flagged if there are alot of chargebacks then we normally contact the webmaster to see where the traffic is coming from etc.

                                                              trust me if your traffic and sales are legit you will get paid. we have been running paysites for almost 8 years now.

                                                              that is why we are way under 1% in chargebacks most chargebacks are created by fraudulant webmasters not surfers

                                                              alot of new sponsors have to go thru the learning curve of running a program and sites some succeed and some fail that is why sponsors resort to shaving, not paying etc.


                                                              I would not trust a sponsor I could not contact over the phone or meet at the shows. But thats just me I like to know who i do business with

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                                                              • chowda
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                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                • 9527

                                                                #32
                                                                to stop shaving, u gotta cut off dem balls
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                                                                • skillfull
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                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 4716

                                                                  #33
                                                                  yep im agree the account would be flagged
                                                                  but if you CONTACT the sponsor, asking to not get paid for the sign-up (anyway if they offer free trial or cheap one, you can cancel it and it would cost you a lot) but you will sure know if all sign-up were counted or not. The hitbot traffic is only to not have a 1:1 ratio who will sure look like fraud
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                                                                  • maxjohan
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                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                    • 7219

                                                                    #34
                                                                    ok I put in to get this started..- raise that if you can.

                                                                    I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                    • Furious_Male
                                                                      Doing the grind since 99
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 16884

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by RogerV


                                                                      Acounts get flagged for many reasons this doesn't mean they don't get paid we just keep an eye on them.

                                                                      I know when someone is sending fake traffic and entering fraudulent credit cards. Obviously a few joins here and there get by but if a webmasters is fraudulant we catch them.

                                                                      Most of the time fraudulant webmasters will send all hitbot traffic.
                                                                      if its mixed it's a little tough to catch at first. an acount will get flagged if there are alot of chargebacks then we normally contact the webmaster to see where the traffic is coming from etc.

                                                                      trust me if your traffic and sales are legit you will get paid. we have been running paysites for almost 8 years now.

                                                                      that is why we are way under 1% in chargebacks most chargebacks are created by fraudulant webmasters not surfers

                                                                      alot of new sponsors have to go thru the learning curve of running a program and sites some succeed and some fail that is why sponsors resort to shaving, not paying etc.


                                                                      I would not trust a sponsor I could not contact over the phone or meet at the shows. But thats just me I like to know who i do business with
                                                                      Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking a bit to narrow (must be the flu). It makes sense that a dishonest affiliate who is perhaps carding would have to send some sort of traffic to make the ratio realistic. Hence you look for those things and monitor them.

                                                                      So much cheating out there to watch for on both sides (affiliate and program owners).
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                                                                      • skillfull
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                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                        • 4716

                                                                        #36
                                                                        i would like to know the advice of some sponsors about my proposition. Will you tolerate my way to test ?
                                                                        If yes or no, please explain why too
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                                                                        • BlueFly
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                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 716

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I think the only way to be sure about shaving is for the program to use a third party company to handle stats and billing. I think that is how CCbill sites work. That would remove some of the doubt.
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                                                                          • BlueFly
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                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 716

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Why charge the joins back. I think it would be worth a few bucks to find out if an affiliate is shaving. If you don't charge it back, it isn't fraud.
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                                                                            • skillfull
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                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                              • 4716

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by BlueFly
                                                                              I think the only way to be sure about shaving is for the program to use a third party company to handle stats and billing. I think that is how CCbill sites work. That would remove some of the doubt.
                                                                              i think this is also a good way to know if ccbill track really all join, i think anyone here have heard about the 30% join not shown due to bad tracking script, its still shaving even if this isnt voluntary
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                                                                              • gin
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                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                • 672

                                                                                #40
                                                                                that's good idea, but you would have to do check joins.. credit card joins.. if the sponsor claims you get credit for popups sign up to the popups.. sign up like real traffic and do 1 - 3 sign ups a day for 1 week striaght while traffic is being sent..

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                                                                                • skillfull
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                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 4716

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by gin
                                                                                  that's good idea, but you would have to do check joins.. credit card joins.. if the sponsor claims you get credit for popups sign up to the popups.. sign up like real traffic and do 1 - 3 sign ups a day for 1 week striaght while traffic is being sent..
                                                                                  yep this is a good way too, but the problem with sending lie 1 join each day for a week is that it is harder to have solid proofs if the sponsors shave (i mean you have to put some person in a room for 1 week, taking pict from a digicam + screenshot and all)
                                                                                  this is why i think the internext is the perfect place to test it. Lots of webmasters from different regions, possibility to have internet acces in a private room or on any public place (who still the best idea imho) and the majority of sponsors to talk directly with them about the results. Im not going to the internext personnaly so i will not setup my idea. But, if someone can do it and post results here (or if someone pay me the trip :P) we can with less than 5000$ bucks knows which sponsors shave and who doesnt. And the best part still that we will have a lots of witness AND solid proof against cheaters.
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                                                                                  • crockett
                                                                                    in a van by the river
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 76818

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I think the best option I've seen sofar is what some guy from here once posted... He set up his own paysite but didn't have a proceser yet.. He had surfers that wanted to join his site , join one of his sponsers.. Once they signed up, he made them send him the confirm e-mail, and then gave them access to his site..


                                                                                    I was thinking of doing something like this as a bonus for signing up with my sponsers. I'm sure it would also help find out who shaves.
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                                                                                    • RogerV
                                                                                      Banned!
                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 12591

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Good luck on this venture

                                                                                      I can save you some time by you just sending to Pornkings

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                                                                                      • davidd
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                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 1076

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by skillfull
                                                                                        I was trying to sleep, was thinking about all this shaving bullshit and i think i find out a solution.

                                                                                        A possible way to stop shaving
                                                                                        1- get a digital camera, and take picture of all the process
                                                                                        2- get 10 people in the same room with a credit card and a computer
                                                                                        3- setup a virgin affiliate account on a sponsor
                                                                                        4- send bullshit traffic (proxies/hitbot) to the sponsors join page
                                                                                        5- each people in the room sign-up on the sponsor site using is cc (using proxies or different ip adress, whatever)
                                                                                        6- enter the paysite with each new account (to test it really worked)
                                                                                        7- check your affiliates stat, you will see if the sponsor shaved you or not
                                                                                        8- repeat the operation using different sponsors
                                                                                        9 - post the fucking results on GFY and send those fuckers out of business (with all picts + screenshot)

                                                                                        im thinking the internext is a good place to test it

                                                                                        its time to stop the scammers
                                                                                        I am 100% in favor of the above.

                                                                                        Try it anytime http://www.flashcash.com

                                                                                        email me davidd -at- flashcash.com if you have any questions.

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                                                                                        • johnbosh
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                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 8965

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          ghaha

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                                                                                          • Trax
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                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                            • 14486

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            i would find it awesome to expose a bigger program right before internext haha

                                                                                            did PIB had a booth???

                                                                                            how comes i didnt think about that yet?


                                                                                            as far as the sponsors go...
                                                                                            i have 2-3 sponsors already that i am 90% sure i am able to bust
                                                                                            wont post names here but their practices are very odd
                                                                                            well....

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                                                                                            • skillfull
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                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 4716

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              yep guys
                                                                                              lets expose a thieves for Xmas
                                                                                              a real gift for all webmasters who work hard for their cash
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                                                                                              • BrentD
                                                                                                ZothNET.com
                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                • 1426

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I get over 5000+ uniques a month to a sex portal site I run www.sincity-erotica.net and I have yet to make anything with all the sponsor shit I have tried there that you see on the page. So do this mean that if I am making a couple small sales that I am being ripped for them and thats why I don't make shit with these sponsors?

                                                                                                I mean come on, you could have the shittiest site in the world, get 5K uniques a month to it and you should definately see at least 2-3 signups per month if not more.

                                                                                                I would guess that theres more then just a handful shaving, but I am not one to accuse because I have never had any luck with sponsoring anything hahaha
                                                                                                THIS FORUM SUCKS - RUDE ASS IDIOTS!!!

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                                                                                                • RogerV
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 12591

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Phrona
                                                                                                  I think the best way is to track sent hits by your custom made script and choose sponsors that pays you the most $$$ per click, no matter if they shave or not
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                                                                                                  • skillfull
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    im bumping this, i want more sponsors advices !
                                                                                                    mind at underdark dot cc
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