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  • BRISK
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    • Feb 2003
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    #1

    Does the "right to bear arms" include all weapons?

    Are there any weapons that are illegal to have in the US?
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  • DrewKole
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    • Jul 2001
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    #2
    Originally posted by BRISK
    Are there any weapons that are illegal to have in the US?
    Is this a serious question?

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    • primo DM
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      • Aug 2002
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      #3
      switch blades, most guns(now) well all the fun ones. thank clinton for that. :\

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      • G Sharp
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        • May 2002
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        #4
        No, not really. One neighbor has a refurbished MIG29 in his driveway. One guy down the street takes his Abrams to Mojave twice a year.

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        • BRISK
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          • Feb 2003
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          #5
          It is a serious question.

          I was wondering if Bill Gates decided he wanted to build a nuclear bomb, could he legally posess it?

          and if not, what law prevents him from being in posession of a nuclear bomb?
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          • Amputate Your Head
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            • Aug 2001
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            #6
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            • Paul Markham
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              • Jun 2001
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              #7
              Originally posted by BRISK
              It is a serious question.

              I was wondering if Bill Gates decided he wanted to build a nuclear bomb, could he legally posess it?

              and if not, what law prevents him from being in posession of a nuclear bomb?
              The same law that prevents him having a machine gun. I'm pretty certain there are a lot of limitations.

              What you have to remember about this law was it was written in a time of flintlocks, Revolution and Indians.

              Not Clint Eastwood impersinators, drive by shootings and drugs.

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              • BRISK
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                • Feb 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by charly
                The same law that prevents him having a machine gun. I'm pretty certain there are a lot of limitations.
                So there is a law that actually says it's illegal to posess nuclear weapons?
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                • G Sharp
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                  • May 2002
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by charly


                  G Sharp
                  Nice neighborhood you live in. Low crime I bet.

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                  • Amputate Your Head
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                    • Aug 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BRISK


                    So there is a law that actually says it's illegal to posess nuclear weapons?
                    it's called the FBI, the ATF, the CIA and the SWAT Team.
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                    • G Sharp
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                      • May 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                      it's called the FBI, the ATF, the CIA and the SWAT Team.
                      Not to mention tight Dept of Energy regulations. Also relevant state statutes and regulations re radioactive/chemical hazards.

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                      • BRISK
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12240

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                        it's called the FBI, the ATF, the CIA and the SWAT Team.
                        Those are law enforcement departments.

                        Which law says it is illegal to posess nuclear weapons?
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                        • quiet
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                          • Sep 2001
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                          #13
                          echelon is now focused on this thread
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                          • stevo
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                            • Aug 2002
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                            #14
                            http://ucnuclearfree.org/background/arenukeslegal.htm

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                            • Gutterboy
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BRISK
                              So there is a law that actually says it's illegal to posess nuclear weapons?
                              Ever hear about the kid who tried build a breeder reactor in his backyard? Yeah, its illegal.

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                              • Gutterboy
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #16
                                "To obtain americium-241, David contacted smoke-detector companies and claimed that he needed a large number of the devices for a school project. One company agreed to sell him about a hundred broken detectors for a dollar apiece. (He also tried to "collect" detectors while at scout camp.) David wasn't sure where the americium-241 was located, so he wrote to BRK Electronics in Aurora, Illinois. A customer-service representative named Beth Weber wrote back to say she'd be happy to help out with "your report." She explained that each detector contains only a tiny amount of americium-241, which is sealed in a gold matrix "to make sure that corrosion does not break it down and release it." Thanks to Weber's tip, David extracted the americium components and then welded them together with a blowtorch."

                                http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m11...07/print.jhtml

                                Very long article, but worth it. Amazing kid!

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                                • BRISK
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                                  • Feb 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Gutterboy
                                  http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m11...07/print.jhtml

                                  Very long article, but worth it. Amazing kid!
                                  Holy crap! That kid is nuts! Is that a true story?
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                                  • BRISK
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                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 12240

                                    #18
                                    If that kid is still alive, he must be growing tumors out his ass!

                                    So anyways, back to the topic...so far nobody has pointed to a specific law that says posession of nuclear weapons is illegal in the US. However, I'm guessing that the posession of radioactive material requires a licence, so I guess Bill Gates would have to acquire a licence for that material before building a nuclear weapon, and if they didn't want to give him a permit then he couldn't build one legally.
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                                    • MetaMan
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                                      • Jan 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Gutterboy
                                      "To obtain americium-241, David contacted smoke-detector companies and claimed that he needed a large number of the devices for a school project. One company agreed to sell him about a hundred broken detectors for a dollar apiece. (He also tried to "collect" detectors while at scout camp.) David wasn't sure where the americium-241 was located, so he wrote to BRK Electronics in Aurora, Illinois. A customer-service representative named Beth Weber wrote back to say she'd be happy to help out with "your report." She explained that each detector contains only a tiny amount of americium-241, which is sealed in a gold matrix "to make sure that corrosion does not break it down and release it." Thanks to Weber's tip, David extracted the americium components and then welded them together with a blowtorch."

                                      http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m11...07/print.jhtml

                                      Very long article, but worth it. Amazing kid!
                                      can u summarize for me, its late ass and my brain cant read

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                                      • BRISK
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                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 12240

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MetaMan


                                        can u summarize for me, its late ass and my brain cant read
                                        Basically this kid wanted to get his eagle scout badge in boy scouts and he figured out a way to build a very crude breeder reactor, but he was really slack with his safety precautions and he filled the whole neighborhood with radiation for a few years until a chance encounter with some cops discovered all this stuff in the trunk of his car and they thought it was a bomb, eventually some environment agency was brought in to clean up the stuff and dispose of it.
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                                        • LiveDose
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                                          • Feb 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Remember Waco, TX?

                                          Something tells me the construction & possession of nuclear weapons would set off an alarm.

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                                          • UnseenWorld
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                                            • May 2001
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BRISK


                                            So there is a law that actually says it's illegal to posess nuclear weapons?

                                            American law is not just legislation. It's also court decisions. I'm absolutely sure it's illegal to possess fissionable material without some sort of license for starters. Without fissionable materials you can't build an A-bomb, much less an H-bomb.
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                                            • BRISK
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                                              • Feb 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by LiveDose
                                              Remember Waco, TX?

                                              Something tells me the construction & possession of nuclear weapons would set off an alarm.
                                              Yes, I would hope that it would set off some alarms if someone actually decided to do it.

                                              But my question is: Is it illegal? and if so, which law makes it illegal?
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                                              • BRISK
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                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 12240

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by UnseenWorld



                                                American law is not just legislation. It's also court decisions. I'm absolutely sure it's illegal to possess fissionable material without some sort of license for starters. Without fissionable materials you can't build an A-bomb, much less an H-bomb.
                                                Thats what I suspect as well.

                                                I've never heard of any law that says it is illegal to posess nuclear weapons, however, you would need a licence to posess the materials needed to create it, and without the licence than you would be in posession of illegal material.
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                                                • LiveDose
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                                                  #25
                                                  Extremely interesting reading if you have the time. Very educational regarding what you are asking:

                                                  http://www.iaea.or.at/worldatom/Peri...373/rames.html


                                                  http://www.iaea.org/worldatom/Press/...es/index.shtml


                                                  http://www.iaea.org/worldatom/

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                                                  • Ironhorse
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                                                    • Nov 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    And what about the right to arm bears?
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                                                    • Kat - Fast
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                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Gutterboy

                                                      http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m11...07/print.jhtml

                                                      Very long article, but worth it. Amazing kid!
                                                      Holy fuck!! What a waste of a brilliant brain

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                                                      • plexer
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                                                        • Oct 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        My partner lives in AZ and carries a loaded 45 with him. He was pulled over the other day for speeding and told the officer about the loaded weapon. Not only did they let him go for having the weapon, but did not even give him a speeding ticket. I guess it?s legal in some states.

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                                                        • Gemini
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                                                          • Jan 2001
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                                                          #29
                                                          http://www.atf.gov/

                                                          Here you go Brisk... this should have most of what you are asking. The US doesn't have just *one* law that covers a lot of things that are illegal. Some have many and each covers some aspect of the particular subject. And as Unseen said, many 'laws' are merely court decisions which are handled as laws until they are overthrown or passed into law by Congress. (Look up 'obscene materials' - Federal Court Decision, not a lwa, but the same as since it sets precedence)

                                                          And many states have CCW(P) (or CCP's) permits. Carrying Concealed Weapon Permits... ALL of them state that you tell an officer that you are armed legally as soon as you are approached to insure safety. You might get away with not having your drivers license on you, but if you are carrying, you'd better HAVE that CCW permit or you are in deep doo doo.

                                                          I think nuclear materials are dealt with much the same as drugs... there may not be a specific law but there IS a list somewhere that has illegal to possess nuclear materials on it.

                                                          Sort of like:
                                                          One joint = the same amount of tar in *4* cigarettes
                                                          One nuclear bomb = 1 city or 500k people
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                                                          • Joe Sixpack
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                                                            • Jul 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Gemini
                                                            One joint = the same amount of tar in *4* cigarettes
                                                            Back this statement up with a reference to a legitimate scientific study.

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                                                            • fnet
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                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Gutterboy

                                                              http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m11...07/print.jhtml

                                                              Very long article, but worth it. Amazing kid!
                                                              Haha, what a dork, blew off his whiskers pounding phosphorus.

                                                              So I wonder if the Boy Scouts still have an Atomic Energy merit badge... I'll have to grab one on ebay- that's about as punk as you can get.
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