Why do ugly sites get the most traffic?
All of the larger TGPs have very simple designs, kind of plain to look at. Any theories to explain this phoenominoneminom? 
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plain = nonthreatening
Someone giving away porn with a $10,000 site design looks suspecious (sp?). Just my
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wait.. so is that good or bad? i mean, you saved money, but now it's requiring storage... DAMMIT!Originally posted by Smut
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One reason is because most of the big sites have been around for a longtime and they are afraid to change their design because it's working.Comment
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traffic & marketing....Comment
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If it aint broke don't fix it..Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
One reason is because most of the big sites have been around for a longtime and they are afraid to change their design because it's working.
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http://www.closeddoors.com/ is the plainest site I've seen, it must be working if he/she hasn't changed it.
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The most popular TGPs are usually old, from the days when every free site was ugly. And now that they have a large base of bookmarkers (ie people like it), there's no sense in changing the look or feel of the site.Comment
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And it's a thing called transfer. The more graphic intensive a site is, the more you'll end up paying at the end of the month!
Besides...Who cares about design when they're jacking off to free porn anyway?
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more importantly, if the pope shits in the woods, but there is no altar boy there to smell it, does it stink?Originally posted by Smut
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I've had the same design since '96 and I'll be the first to admit it sucks but everytime I change it to something more appealing my signups go down and I end up going back to the original, its something I could never figure out.Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
One reason is because most of the big sites have been around for a longtime and they are afraid to change their design because it's working.Comment
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Mostly because they were listed in the SE's first... And were the originals.Comment
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simple sells. Lots of graphical sites lost their way and lost their usability. Bottom line, we are selling pussy here (or cock for the gay guys) and not fucking art pieces.
It is all about usability and turning on the surfer fast.
Hell, I would not promote most of these major paysites with your traffic let alone mine. Too much $$ spend on a designer and no money spent on a true Internet marketer and usabiltiy expert.
Just my 2 strokes
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Diapers I thinkOriginally posted by Smut
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Adult Check did a survey of their users not too long ago. They asked them what they want in a porn site, and what factors contributed most to their joining. The quality and quantity of the porn itself were tops by a huge margin, not the design & graphics. Its good porn and lots of it people want to see, not pretty logo's.Last edited by Gutterboy; 03-14-2003, 06:39 PM.Comment
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The real reason is that the surfer wants the site to load fast -- lots of surfers are still on dialup... If it's a trading site especially, productivity will be higher if the site loads fast -- and usually that means VERY MINIMAL graphics...
This is all changing with the movie site guys or guys that trade on picture links... movie surfers are generally high bandwidth surfers, but I think some of them go overboard with images. Some of these movie archive sections have so many pics that my browser crashes. Just a tip for those movie guys -- you don't want the surfer's browser to crash EVER, even if it's 5% of surfers that's still lost revenue.Comment
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Most of the older sites aren't in kind terms with usability, I can tell you that.Originally posted by Mogul
simple sells. Lots of graphical sites lost their way and lost their usability. Bottom line, we are selling pussy here (or cock for the gay guys) and not fucking art pieces.
It is all about usability and turning on the surfer fast.
Hell, I would not promote most of these major paysites with your traffic let alone mine. Too much $$ spend on a designer and no money spent on a true Internet marketer and usabiltiy expert.
Just my 2 strokes
Mogul
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yepOriginally posted by Gutterboy
Adult Check did a survey of their users not too long ago. They asked them what they want in a porn site, and what factors contributed most to their joining. The quality and quantity of the porn itself were tops by a huge margin, not the design & graphics. Its good porn and lots of it people want to see, not pretty logo's.we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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Originally posted by xdcdave
plain = nonthreatening
Someone giving away porn with a $10,000 site design looks suspecious (sp?). Just my
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Originally posted by FATPad
Because they were there first.
exactly !
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but surely this doesn't apply to tgp galleries, or does it? I thought the more enticing and professional the gallery look - the higher the conversion all other things being equal?Originally posted by Gutterboy
Adult Check did a survey of their users not too long ago. They asked them what they want in a porn site, and what factors contributed most to their joining. The quality and quantity of the porn itself were tops by a huge margin, not the design & graphics. Its good porn and lots of it people want to see, not pretty logo's.Comment
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I disagree.Originally posted by hershie
but surely this doesn't apply to tgp galleries, or does it? I thought the more enticing and professional the gallery look - the higher the conversion all other things being equal?
You can have a well designed attractive gallery with hideous content and very few people are going to click on the link to even get to the paysite. How can you sell them the paysite if you show them shitty content? Enticing content is far more important than design in my opinion.Comment
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what's a TGP?This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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Apparently, based on ICQ chats with some program operators, the same observation is true with paysites. "Pretty" or "Slick" or "High Tech" does not necessarily CONVERT. Amateurish type designs often convert better because it is tied to the uniqueness of the content--which should be the main selling point of any site.
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but all things being equal - as in you are using the same content lets say - will the design of the gallery ever make a significant difference is my question?Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
I disagree.
You can have a well designed attractive gallery with hideous content and very few people are going to click on the link to even get to the paysite. How can you sell them the paysite if you show them shitty content? Enticing content is far more important than design in my opinion.Comment
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Cause I design them !
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okay kinda slightly off topic here but if loading fast is the key then why are the TGP's with thumbnail previews so popular? surely it would take longer to load on a 56k dialup than one with just text links?Comment
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I guess the hassle of load time is offset by the benefit of seeing a sample image from the gallery thereby saving time ultimatelyOriginally posted by Snazzy
okay kinda slightly off topic here but if loading fast is the key then why are the TGP's with thumbnail previews so popular? surely it would take longer to load on a 56k dialup than one with just text links?Comment
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most likely... I know that my traffic doubled as soon as I installed them on my TGPOriginally posted by G Sharp
I guess the hassle of load time is offset by the benefit of seeing a sample image from the gallery thereby saving time ultimately
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Word.Originally posted by FATPad
Because they were there first.Comment
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Those who have been doing this long enough understand that understanding your market, simple design and GOOD 100% exclusive content = 10 times more sales. When you count the conversions at the end of the day the bullshit stops. Simple as that.
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Or for those that can't afford all exclusive content, Fresh new content definitely helps a lotOriginally posted by SGS
.... and GOOD 100% exclusive content = 10 times more sales. .... Simple as that.
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You mean the guy with his dick in his hand is not looking at the colour scheme of the site????????Originally posted by NetRodent
Product is more important than packaging.Comment
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LOL hehehehehOriginally posted by charly
You mean the guy with his dick in his hand is not looking at the colour scheme of the site????????
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I'll explain it to you next time I see you.Originally posted by SleazyDream
what's a TGP?
But don't bother with them, you'll never make any money there.
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a nice tgp site doesn't nescessary mean 500k's in graphics i mean most tgp sites are just plain ugly, a nice color scheme couldent possibly hurt.
And why does so many tgp sites put all the gallery links in one page ? instead of deviding into different niches, so they can target the ads better ?Comment
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a good question!!!
anyone knows the answer?Comment
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Because people that run them excell at marketing and promoting the site and business and art often clash.Originally posted by Smut
All of the larger TGPs have very simple designs, kind of plain to look at. Any theories to explain this phoenominoneminom?
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My guess is that it's because most of the surfers arrive at the TGP via a traffic-script link which promised them a gallery. Thumbnail previews make the TGP look like a giant gallery, so they feel like they got what they expected. Whereas if they end-up with a text-based TGP (when they expected a gallery) they're more likely to feel like they've been conned and close the window or backout.Originally posted by Snazzy
okay kinda slightly off topic here but if loading fast is the key then why are the TGP's with thumbnail previews so popular? surely it would take longer to load on a 56k dialup than one with just text links?Comment
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It is simple plain sites do not do better than fancy sites.
The reason for a sites success is holistic not specific, if a plain site is doing better than a fancy site it is because of a thousand and one other reasons not just the presentation. For every successful plain site you can find you will find at least ten successful ?fancy? sites.
If you are looking for that elusive success paradigm then presentation is only one part of the gestalt.Comment
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