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This blows....
I was using ccnow back in the day to sell adult vcds before it got taken over by bible bashers...
I was half way thru a site with paypal links to do the same thing.
daaaahhhhh!!!!
I've got an account with Pay Systems somwhere that I havent used for ages......gonna dig it out now....jesus
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With paypal gone from adult, are there any other similar services besides Epassporte and FirePay?"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
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DynaSpain -- If you want to call me and give me your card num I can find out why you were getting declined. Chances are that if you tried it now it would work as I know there were some cards that were getting declined that should not have and those issues have been resolved.
Epassporte has two primary and industry specific elements.
*Surfer side acceptance from all over the world (with a few Federally regulated exceptions) so that those countries you could not bill for before now can use a Visa card.
*Instant Global Peer-to-Peer payments. I personally think that this functionality is most appealing for the affilaite community. It's an easy, cheap, global, and fast way to move money to any other account holder. This is HUGE!
Epassporte has potential that has not been fully realized yet. I think you will continue to see it develop and improve very quickly as webmaster input helps to drive it usability and features.
Talk to me about any ideas you might have. Epassporte is all ears.
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So all you guys need now is fingers to type some replies..Epassporte is all ears.Comment
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Mark, who did you send this email that you've referred to twice to?Originally posted by Mark
So all you guys need now is fingers to type some replies..
I know it wasn't me, but if you'd like to send me a copy I can answer you in about 30 seconds flat.
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Originally posted by Rand
DynaSpain -- If you want to call me and give me your card num I can find out why you were getting declined. Chances are that if you tried it now it would work as I know there were some cards that were getting declined that should not have and those issues have been resolved.
Epassporte has two primary and industry specific elements.
*Surfer side acceptance from all over the world (with a few Federally regulated exceptions) so that those countries you could not bill for before now can use a Visa card.
*Instant Global Peer-to-Peer payments. I personally think that this functionality is most appealing for the affilaite community. It's an easy, cheap, global, and fast way to move money to any other account holder. This is HUGE!
Epassporte has potential that has not been fully realized yet. I think you will continue to see it develop and improve very quickly as webmaster input helps to drive it usability and features.
Talk to me about any ideas you might have. Epassporte is all ears.
I´ve just tried 1 hour ago and it didn´t work.....reason it says
CVC2 is not supported by my bank which I cannot believe.
I´m interested in epassport and I´ll give you a ring later. I´m
also looking to use it as a payment method for my paysites.
I have to run out the door now....will be back later
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Where is Ebay's Mature Audiences section?Comment
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Agreed!Originally posted by Carrie
Quit the shit with "the republicans" and "a sh cr of t" and use your fucking heads, if you've got 'em.
There was a mass rush to PayPal back when the Visa fees were announced last September and put into effect in November. Many people didn't pay the mandatory Visa/MC fees, because when you set up a "buy it now" or "subscription" button the form doesn't ask you if you're doing it for adult or not.
Take a look at all of the adult sites out there offering PayPal as a payment option - do you really think ALL of them paid that $1500 fee? Think again, Gumby.
PayPal got a major slap in the face and reacted the same way Visa did - by putting its fist down and saying "we're not going to fuck with these chargebacks anymore".
They still process for adult products in the Mature Audiences categories in the eBay auctions - if this were about republicans or any of that bullshit, they wouldn't be doing that. It's all about control. In the auctions, feedback is a wonderful control where the actual users police the sellers, and SafeHarbor can cut anyone off at a moment's notice.
They don't have that control with non-auction transactions.
Get your head out of your ass, quit bitching about the republicans, and instead start bitching about your fellow webmasters who are lying to the surfers and cheating - and who are causing all of this shit to come down on the rest of you.
It's THEIR chargebacks that are causing this, not the Republicans.
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Originally posted by Lensman
Where is Ebay's Mature Audiences section?
http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings...y99/index.htmlGood Content:
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Mark did you resend that email anywhere? I don't see it in my inbox...Comment
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How does PayPal define "adult" or "sexually oriented" material?
"Adult" or "sexually-oriented" material includes, but is not limited to:
Any visual representation of human genitals presented in such a manner as to suggest sexual activity.
Any visual representation of any form of sexual intercourse involving humans
Any materials which require that individuals be eighteen (18) or older (depending on the jurisdiction) to view or purchase those materials
Any non-textual materials clearly designed to sexually arouse the viewer/reader
Any items which, because of their nature or because of the item description, appear to be designed for use in sexual/adult activity
Any items which dhahahahat human sexual characteristics in a degrading fashion
Any item that portrays frontal nudity will normally be treated as "adult" material
--- It looks like all of you designers have to stop putting hardcore stuff in your tours if you want to use PayPal for processing.
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Most webhosts aren't specifically targeting adult alone. It's considered a "mainstream" company. It shouldn't affect your webhost....Originally posted by antigravityboy
I wonder if this goes so far as to mean that I cannot pay for my webhost because they host porn sites or services like Choker and other like that.
If I was a webhost accepting paypal and hosted adult sites I would be leary of them freezing my accounts. Just my
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Just sent now, thanks.Originally posted by Kimmykim
Mark did you resend that email anywhere? I don't see it in my inbox...Comment
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instead start bitching about your fellow webmasters who are lying to the surfers and cheating
That wont happen we all know websites big and small that screw the customer. The ones that charge high monthly fees for crap and the same old pics but its your sponsor or your friends sponsor so no ones says any thing. The people that sell the dick grow pills that dont work. We know a girl who posts on her site 500 new pics this week and it basically a hour video and they posted the whole thing frame by frame as pics. I mean every frame thats a rip off but what can you say really.You say to yourself its none of my business but actually it is. All of these things affect our future in adult entertainment. We are all too polite. What we can do is start a association and get a bunch of press for it (websites and adult mags) that a site to be in this association they must fellow rules and guidelines. That if a surfer comes to that site they know they will not get ripped off. Also no blowjobs and mouths full of cum on the tour pages so we are also protect kids. I will get blown off but when there is no more cc processing, we will have no one to blame but ourselves. You can laugh also but if your only bankable skill is making porn I would take a good hard look at this.Last edited by tony286; 03-13-2003, 12:49 PM.Comment
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This is VERY good news for epassport
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You've got mailOriginally posted by Mark
Just sent now, thanks.
If that wasn't specific enough, let me know ok?Comment
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From what I understand from a few phonecalls to paypal designers and content providers are safe ..Originally posted by Smut
How does PayPal define "adult" or "sexually oriented" material?
"Adult" or "sexually-oriented" material includes, but is not limited to:
Any item that portrays frontal nudity will normally be treated as "adult" material
--- It looks like all of you designers have to stop putting hardcore stuff in your tours if you want to use PayPal for processing.
It is mostly the actual sale of " pornography " and the retail end of the whole biz .. not the behind the scenes , business to business transactions ..
however I was also told that sale of adult DVDs, Toys etc were also allowed .. Which doesn't seem
I asked that maybe they send a rep here to let people know whats going on. yeahSIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Good to hear that, thank you.From what I understand from a few phonecalls to paypal designers and content providers are safe ..
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How do we accept payments with this system w/o going through a lot of red tape? I investigated the website last month -- and there didn't seem any answer to accepting payments, unless you are already accepting credit cards... but if such is the case, why the fuck does anyone care about epassporte if they can already accept credit cards? I hope that people don't see epassporte as a replacement for Paypal, because from what I can tell from the epassporte website, that is not the case at all...Originally posted by Rand
DynaSpain -- If you want to call me and give me your card num I can find out why you were getting declined. Chances are that if you tried it now it would work as I know there were some cards that were getting declined that should not have and those issues have been resolved.
Epassporte has two primary and industry specific elements.
*Surfer side acceptance from all over the world (with a few Federally regulated exceptions) so that those countries you could not bill for before now can use a Visa card.
*Instant Global Peer-to-Peer payments. I personally think that this functionality is most appealing for the affilaite community. It's an easy, cheap, global, and fast way to move money to any other account holder. This is HUGE!
Epassporte has potential that has not been fully realized yet. I think you will continue to see it develop and improve very quickly as webmaster input helps to drive it usability and features.
Talk to me about any ideas you might have. Epassporte is all ears.
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they're passing up all that money because of a few fucking chargebacks?Need CUSTOM T-Shirts or Custom ANYTHING? We'll Fucking do it!
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You really can't think of a reason why VISA would want chargebacks broken down by site?Originally posted by gripcash
First they make it very tough for anyone to get a high-risk merchant account in the US, pushing all the sites to the 3rd party processors. Then they make the processors report on each merchant <b>by website</b>. Anybody see this as a little suspect?
Why should visa care about charges by website? It's not as if, for example, a gym must report on chargebacks by store location. The reason is future content legislation. Visa wants adult out of the US, period.
And yes, you can point your finger at the republicans. The reason paypal doesn't apply this rule to adult on ebay is because they're just following the rules that are handed down to them by visa and getting away with as much as they can for the time being. Ebay is their company, so it's not a submerchant, it's the merchant, that makes the IPSP rules not apply.
This isn't the end of this. The iBills, and CCBills will keep having tighter rules imposed on them by Visa that they'll pass down to the webmasters. It's a very elaborate way for the bush administration to push adult out without fighting the constitutional issues. Because it's not the administration right? It's just your processor saying they no longer allow facials. And for the processor it's just big mysterious visa USA making it's elusive rules.
Sorry this rant is so long. One more bit. Have you ever wondered why Visa would -mind- chargebacks? They make plenty of money on them on merchant fees. Do you really believe chargebacks are such a bad thing for them? I'll give my conspiracy theory on this some other time.
You don't know why VISA doesn't like chargebacks?
LOL<a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>Comment
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I was thinking the same thing -- it's all the way at the bottom of their site! BUT you can't even access it until a) you take a 3 page survey (they popup a 4th survey), b) verify your email address with a passcode, then c) EVEN AFTER ALL THAT you have to provide Ebay with a creditcard #Originally posted by Lensman
Where is Ebay's Mature Audiences section?
-- just to browse a fucking adult section... It's not even a porn site!
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Great, thats what I needed to know.Originally posted by Kimmykim
You've got mail
If that wasn't specific enough, let me know ok?
Thanks!
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Damn,
You guys have the whole company playing on the boards or what?
Originally posted by Rand
DynaSpain -- If you want to call me and give me your card num I can find out why you were getting declined. Chances are that if you tried it now it would work as I know there were some cards that were getting declined that should not have and those issues have been resolved.
Epassporte has two primary and industry specific elements.
*Surfer side acceptance from all over the world (with a few Federally regulated exceptions) so that those countries you could not bill for before now can use a Visa card.
*Instant Global Peer-to-Peer payments. I personally think that this functionality is most appealing for the affilaite community. It's an easy, cheap, global, and fast way to move money to any other account holder. This is HUGE!
Epassporte has potential that has not been fully realized yet. I think you will continue to see it develop and improve very quickly as webmaster input helps to drive it usability and features.
Talk to me about any ideas you might have. Epassporte is all ears.
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Or maybe: The US wants the adult out of Visa????Originally posted by gripcash
The reason is future content legislation. Visa wants adult out of the US, period.
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Forget Paysystems: they cut me off New Year's eve with 2 minutes notice, didn't pay me till I served them with papers....Originally posted by natas
This blows....
I've got an account with Pay Systems somwhere that I havent used for ages......gonna dig it out now....jesus
BTW, I had 0 ( none) chargebacks on selling vids... ( Same with Paypal: no chargebacks).
Here is the email of Paysystem of this weeK;;
Dear Merchant,
PaySystems Corporation has recently amended its business policies, and as a result, will no longer be able to support online merchants in your industry category. As a result, in accordance with Section 6.3 of your current processing agreement, you are hereby advised that your account with PaySystems will be closed in 10 business days.
Please be advised that this decision will not affect your processing capabilities in the interim, nor will it interfere with your usual settlement structure. We would be glad to help expedite the transfer to your new processor though whatever means possible.
We apologize for any inconvenience, and extend our best wishes in your future business ventures.
Very truly yours,
Shawn Forrest
Underwriting Supervisor
PaySystems CorporationI know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Firepay, located in Montreal, doesn't process adult!Originally posted by NetRodent
With paypal gone from adult, are there any other similar services besides Epassporte and FirePay?I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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They say that now but I would hate to have my account frozen if I was a webhost.Originally posted by MiaSimonsen
Most webhosts aren't specifically targeting adult alone. It's considered a "mainstream" company. It shouldn't affect your webhost....
http://www.paypalsucks.com/
There are a ton of horror stories from people dealing with paypal. You say the people on the phone told you that webhosts and content providers are cool, are these the same people that have been telling people at conventions that paypal was going to be processing adult membership for the long haul?Expect nothing, you will not be disappointed.Comment
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Tons of frauds for " non-adult" related items, and it seems Paypal ( and Ebay) doesn't do nothing....
Obviously politically correct move to please officials in gov.
link of one fraud artist:
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...serid=zachjr83I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Got my reply from PayPal re clarification on their position regarding Adult transactions, and I hope it sheds some light - hmmm
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Daniel -
The announcement that went out yesterday unfortunately does state
that PayPal, starting on May 12, 2003, will no longer be able to process
adult-related transactions. I apologize for all inconveniences this has
caused and can certainly understand your frustration. Let me know if you
have any logistical questions and I'll do my best to get you timely answers.
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The rule with PayPal is to never keep any money in your account. I transfer it out right away just to be safe.
MarkIntenseCash - If you can't convert us then you might want to look for a new job
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Netbilling will pickup the slack. You will still pay low rates but have complete control over your processing.Originally posted by HardProfits
Got my reply from PayPal re clarification on their position regarding Adult transactions, and I hope it sheds some light - hmmm
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Daniel -
The announcement that went out yesterday unfortunately does state
that PayPal, starting on May 12, 2003, will no longer be able to process
adult-related transactions. I apologize for all inconveniences this has
caused and can certainly understand your frustration. Let me know if you
have any logistical questions and I'll do my best to get you timely answers.
- Jeremy
Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456
Thank you, Mitch Farber
Mitch Farber
CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!Comment
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Lesson to learn here folks. I, too, transfer the money to my back account immediately after a large transaction has occured.Originally posted by BluMedia
The rule with PayPal is to never keep any money in your account. I transfer it out right away just to be safe.
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Originally posted by TheFLY
How do we accept payments with this system w/o going through a lot of red tape? I investigated the website last month -- and there didn't seem any answer to accepting payments, unless you are already accepting credit cards... but if such is the case, why the fuck does anyone care about epassporte if they can already accept credit cards? I hope that people don't see epassporte as a replacement for Paypal, because from what I can tell from the epassporte website, that is not the case at all...
First you will need to get a contract for a commercial account, then you'll need the APIs from the tech department. It's pretty simple really.Comment
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Honestly, I'm really happy that PayPal finally made a clear policy. It looks like this new policy may be inconvenient, but it appears to be more likely to be fair in the sense of being even-handed.
Does epassport have an affiliate program?
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It's on the way Amelia
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Ummm - I don't understand how you arrive at that conclusion - are you blonde per chance?Originally posted by AmeliaG
Honestly, I'm really happy that PayPal finally made a clear policy. It looks like this new policy may be inconvenient, but it appears to be more likely to be fair in the sense of being even-handed.
Does epassport have an affiliate program?
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I prefer an even-handed approach. If I know the rules, then I can follow them. Because my sites are larger than others in my niche, I was basically the only person in my niche who paypal asked to pay the $1,500 fee and register my sites. I think putting yourself in a file of people who do a certain thing is dangerous and the history of oppression bears me out on this. I would have been willing to pay the fee, if the fee was the same for everyone, but I would not have been willing to do the registration thing. But it really bothered me that no one else I knew had had to deal with this problem. Hit the books and you will see that every horrible regime in the history of the world began with lists of certain sorts of people and rules which could be enforced randomly at the whim of those in charge.Originally posted by The Other Steve
Ummm - I don't understand how you arrive at that conclusion - are you blonde per chance?
Beats me if I am blonde. Right now, it is red and faded purple.
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I called Paypal and asked,, No more recurring after the deadlineOriginally posted by bikinihouse
So, what happens to the recurring subscribers??
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Originally posted by AmeliaG
... I think putting yourself in a file of people who do a certain thing is dangerous and the history of oppression bears me out on this.... Hit the books and you will see that every horrible regime in the history of the world began with lists of certain sorts of people and rules which could be enforced randomly at the whim of those in charge...
Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.
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On that note, I'm out to meet up with the rest of the Phoenix webmasters, so I wont be posting much more this evening -- if you have any epassporte questions drop me an email and I'll get you some answers as quickly as possible -- if you are looking to get a commercial account started, please make sure to include the name and physical address of the company, I'll get the contract started and accounting can get with you on the particulars that I'm not really interested in seeing about you
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hey directfiesta hit me up please 156 55034Originally posted by directfiesta
Forget Paysystems: they cut me off New Year's eve with 2 minutes notice, didn't pay me till I served them with papers....
BTW, I had 0 ( none) chargebacks on selling vids... ( Same with Paypal: no chargebacks).
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I have an idea. Paypal could process only transactions that are from Ebay auctions! Oh wait, they are working on that now
They just froze my account and are giving me the run around. I hope someone from paypal is there at the fucking phoenix forum.
I am glad the amount is only a couple K, which I can live without but just taking my money for no reason will get you fucked up.
Let's all say a prayer for those really effected by this news. (thank god it is not me).
Here ya go paypal....
Oh, looking forward to meeting people at the Phoenix Forum.
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Moving my cash now, great tipOriginally posted by EscortBiz
Well I hope you have no cash in your paypal account because they will freeze accounts real quick and good lukc getting your money.
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Maybe publicity like this is what made Paypal decide to quit processing Adult:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~gulufutu...porn030312.htmIm here to help surfers find relevant contentComment
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Yes I heard Ibill as well! I'm sure the others will follow!Comment
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well nail in the coffin of most content providers (smaller ones).Comment
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Yes I heard Ibill as well! I'm sure the others will follow! iBill? why not go w/ WSB and be done w/ it..!
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