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  • antigravityboy
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2002
    • 109

    #1

    paypal quits processing for adult transaction

    Just got this email from them hot off the press.
    Glad I quit using them a long time ago.

    We are writing to inform you that PayPal has modified its Acceptable Use Policy. As of May 12, 2003, PayPal will no longer support transactions for adult content or products.

    After a careful review of the financial factors relating to the processing of adult transactions, we concluded that this change was the best course of action for our business.

    We understand that payment processing is a critical component of any business, and hope that this two-month notice will provide you with sufficient time to transition to an alternate payment system.

    Summary of the New Policy

    Under the terms of the Acceptable Use Policy, effective May 12, 2003, PayPal will no longer allow accounts to send or receive payments for adult content or products that are not sold through the Mature Audiences section of eBay's website. PayPal will continue to process payments for eBay-hosted items that are in compliance with eBay's listing requirements and restrictions because eBay listings are easier to monitor than website-based transactions. Click here to read the full terms of the Acceptable Use Policy.

    You may keep your PayPal account open after May 12, 2003, on a good faith basis. Your transaction history will still be viewable online, and you may continue to withdraw funds under your current account guidelines. Reserves for accounts with rolling reserves will continue to operate, with reserves ending 180 days after the receipt of the last transaction. Because you are not being required to close your PayPal account, your account access may be limited if it is determined that your account activity violates PayPal's new policy on adult content.

    PayPal customers affected by the new policy who paid the Visa, MasterCard High Risk registration fee will have their registration fee refunded. The fee will be refunded no later than June 13, 2003.

    Thank You for Your Business

    We apologize for any inconvenience this change will cause to you, and would like to thank you for your business.

    If you have any questions about the Acceptable Use Policy, please feel free to contact your account manager.

    Sincerely,

    The PayPal Team
    Expect nothing, you will not be disappointed.
  • m0rph3us
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2001
    • 2033

    #2
    hmmm

    can you post a link to their new accepable usage policy? it says it in the post but there's no link.
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    • antigravityboy
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      • Nov 2002
      • 109

      #3
      I wonder if this goes so far as to mean that I cannot pay for my webhost because they host porn sites or services like Choker and other like that.
      If I was a webhost accepting paypal and hosted adult sites I would be leary of them freezing my accounts. Just my
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      • Kimmykim
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        • Jun 2001
        • 16015

        #4
        Interesting, tho not surprising.

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        • antigravityboy
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2002
          • 109

          #5
          Originally posted by m0rph3us
          hmmm

          can you post a link to their new accepable usage policy? it says it in the post but there's no link.
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          • antigravityboy
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2002
            • 109

            #6
            Here is the specific link for mature audiences in their AUP policy
            http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...side&ed=mature
            Expect nothing, you will not be disappointed.

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            • Loch
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              • Feb 2002
              • 7674

              #7
              I just got that mail as well, fucking morons

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              • Loch
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                • Feb 2002
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                #8
                Another thousand wmยดs will bite the dust on this one for sure.

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                • Brown Bear
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                  • May 2002
                  • 4982

                  #9
                  Not all webhosts are specifically adult.

                  I think they're talking about adult paysites that have recurring transactions through PayPal.
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                  • antigravityboy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 109

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Loch
                    Another thousand wmยดs will bite the dust on this one for sure.
                    I imagine it will have quite a ripple effect.
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                    • Brown Bear
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                      • May 2002
                      • 4982

                      #11
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                      • Dveron
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 2794

                        #12
                        Originally posted by antigravityboy


                        I imagine it will have quite a ripple effect.
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                        • Joe Sixpack
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3793

                          #13
                          Damn! Check this out!

                          "You may not use PayPal to sell humans, the human body, or any human body parts. "

                          What? Fucking ruin my plans will you!

                          PAYPAL!

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                          • ServerGenius
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                            • Feb 2002
                            • 9377

                            #14
                            What about affiliate programs that pay out their webmaster
                            through paypal?

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                            • Kimmykim
                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 16015

                              #15
                              Would it be really bitchy of me to mention epassporte.com and then run off to bed?

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                              • m0rph3us
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                                • Mar 2001
                                • 2033

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                Would it be really bitchy of me to mention epassporte.com and then run off to bed?
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                                • ServerGenius
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                  Would it be really bitchy of me to mention epassporte.com and then run off to bed?
                                  Damn you beat me to it.....I was about to say Epassport is having
                                  a little party right now

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                                  • Loch
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                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 7674

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                    Would it be really bitchy of me to mention epassporte.com and then run off to bed?
                                    And wtf is that then??

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                                    • Theo
                                      HAL 9000
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 34515

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
                                      Damn! Check this out!

                                      "You may not use PayPal to sell humans, the human body, or any human body parts. "

                                      What? Fucking ruin my plans will you!

                                      PAYPAL!
                                      lol

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                                      • realed
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 834

                                        #20
                                        I really don't think this applies to adult websites. If you read the summary it only mentions adult products via ebay.

                                        I think we will need some clarification on this.

                                        Regardless it's no great loss. Seems funny that only 6 months ago all the big adult webmasters received emails from account managers at paypal asking us to use paypal for adult web transactions and now they appear not to want our business?

                                        Strange...

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                                        • Mark
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                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 600

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                          Would it be really bitchy of me to mention epassporte.com and then run off to bed?
                                          Would it be really bitchy of me to ask how many months I need to wait for a response to my questions sent to epassporte about commercial accounts? I know I could perhaps dig up a phone number and give them a call but I'm a great believer in a little thing called the internet and email and its hard to trust an internet company that doesn't seem to use the internet..

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                                          • HardProfits
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 346

                                            #22
                                            just sent an email to my contact at PayPal asking for clarification, and I recommend everyone else do the same till we get an answer

                                            Having any IPSP make a descision to turn its back on our industry is a further nail in our mutual coffins

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                                            • m0rph3us
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                                              • Mar 2001
                                              • 2033

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by realed
                                              I really don't think this applies to adult websites. If you read the summary it only mentions adult products via ebay.

                                              I think we will need some clarification on this.

                                              Regardless it's no great loss. Seems funny that only 6 months ago all the big adult webmasters received emails from account managers at paypal asking us to use paypal for adult web transactions and now they appear not to want our business?

                                              Strange...

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                                              • m0rph3us
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                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 2033

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mark


                                                Would it be really bitchy of me to ask how many months I need to wait for a response to my questions sent to epassporte about commercial accounts? I know I could perhaps dig up a phone number and give them a call but I'm a great believer in a little thing called the internet and email and its hard to trust an internet company that doesn't seem to use the internet..
                                                yes please have someone answer those emails. I mailed twice and no response.
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                                                • Paul Markham
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                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #25
                                                  I will have to phone them and ask if I'm included.

                                                  We are listed as business to business, but I'm in the process of getting a merchant account, so for the content store it's no problema and I would not have used them for a paysite.

                                                  Can't be because of ChargeBacks, auctions are the worse sector of the market for that.



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                                                  • Loch
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                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 7674

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by charly
                                                    I will have to phone them and ask if I'm included.

                                                    We are listed as business to business, but I'm in the process of getting a merchant account, so for the content store it's no problema and I would not have used them for a paysite.

                                                    Can't be because of ChargeBacks, auctions are the worse sector of the market for that.
                                                    Who are you setting up with ?
                                                    For payment i meen....

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                                                    • Danielle
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                                                      • Jun 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by realed
                                                      I really don't think this applies to adult websites. If you read the summary it only mentions adult products via ebay.

                                                      Hmmmmm.... It is quite clear.....

                                                      Unless you are completing a transaction on the eBay Mature Audiences site, you may not use PayPal to sell or purchase "adult" or "sexually oriented" material.

                                                      That says NO ADULT CRAP UNLESS IT IS SOLD ON EBAY!

                                                      Here is the full text to the new crap....

                                                      http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...side&ed=mature

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                                                      • Jay_StandAhead
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                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 3103

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                        Would it be really bitchy of me to mention epassporte.com and then run off to bed?
                                                        I don't think it would. Go ahead

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                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                          • 52942

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Loch

                                                          Who are you setting up with ?
                                                          For payment i meen....
                                                          Am still looking around.



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                                                          • KittyLiXX
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 2

                                                            #30
                                                            Hi -

                                                            Well , Paypal rains on the KittyLiXX parade!

                                                            Since KittyLiXX is also an adult seller on Ebay ( I haven't received the email yet) ... what service do you guys recommend I use? Is there one out there that is comparable that we should be signing up for?

                                                            I also accept Paypal on my retail site www.kittylixx.com for adult products. I will have to read the fine print closely .

                                                            I take MC and Visa already but I find most of my ebay buyers are Paypal Centric ....


                                                            Funny thing about this rule w/ eBAY - - I can sell a make it Big Penis pump under massage products other - - and take paypal no prob.

                                                            I can offer the same product under adult and not be able take Paypal .

                                                            I also sell sexy hard to find panties and stockings under adult - Now I can't take Paypal for clothing ? Frigging stooges! All of us trying to make a living !

                                                            Any recomendations for a new service welcome -
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                                                            • notjoe
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                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 5599

                                                              #31
                                                              I wonder if you can still sell adult DVDS or if they see a DVD as a DVD regardless of what the content on the DVD actually is.


                                                              I think a lot of content providers might get screwed in this one..

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                                                              • Loch
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                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                • 7674

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                I think a lot of content providers might get screwed in this one..
                                                                Wouldent use the word screwed as most already have or are in the process of setting up other meens of payment...
                                                                Will severely hurt the really small providers though (I think)

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                                                                • gothweb
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                                                                  • Jun 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by realed
                                                                  eems funny that only 6 months ago all the big adult webmasters received emails from account managers at paypal asking us to use paypal for adult web transactions and now they appear not to want our business?
                                                                  Not just the big ones. They contacted *me* a few times, too... Must have been a pretty big push to recruit adult paysites.

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                                                                  • The Almighty Glands
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                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 56

                                                                    #34
                                                                    This only makes logical sense.

                                                                    Even though EBAY is a great place to sell your junk, their business practices suck. They act as if they are a monopoly (like bell Canada) and I suppose they are in a way.

                                                                    Since they now own PayPal this was only the next logical step.
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                                                                    • notjoe
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                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 5599

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Loch

                                                                      Wouldent use the word screwed as most already have or are in the process of setting up other meens of payment...
                                                                      Will severely hurt the really small providers though (I think)
                                                                      People will need to go get a real shopping cart now

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                                                                      • Loch
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                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 7674

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by notjoe


                                                                        People will need to go get a real shopping cart now
                                                                        Not just that, but also the fees for setting up...
                                                                        Might be to much for some of the providers with just 10-50 sets

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                                                                        • CharlieBrown
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                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                          • 562

                                                                          #37
                                                                          screw paypal
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                                                                          • Brown Bear
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                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                            • 4982

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Wow, that sucks for content providers.
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                                                                            • Loch
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                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 7674

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Brown Bear
                                                                              Wow, that sucks for content providers.
                                                                              Not at all

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                                                                              • Brown Bear
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                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                • 4982

                                                                                #40
                                                                                This is another reason for people to use www.epassporte.com

                                                                                Affilate programs and CC processors could payout to epassporte and content providers could receive payment this way.

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                                                                                • SGS
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                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 5176

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I dont use PayPal but still got the email. I think this part here:

                                                                                  PayPal will no longer support transactions for adult content or products

                                                                                  Makes their intentions perfectly clear.
                                                                                  See sig...

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                                                                                  • Bigwebmaster
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                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                    • 47

                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • NoCarrier
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                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                      • 16356

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      And what will happen to the people who paid 1500$?

                                                                                      LOL!

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                                                                                      • Loch
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                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                        • 7674

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                        And what will happen to the people who paid 1500$?

                                                                                        LOL!
                                                                                        They will have their money refounded by June at the latest.

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                                                                                        • hitman699
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                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 159

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I never paid the fees but kept using them for adult anyway...
                                                                                          I figured not taking adult would be next anyway with ebay buying them.. They said they will refund the fees at some point.


                                                                                          ----------------------------
                                                                                          And what will happen to the people who paid 1500$?

                                                                                          LOL!

                                                                                          ----------------------------

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                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                            • 19422

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                            And what will happen to the people who paid 1500$?

                                                                                            LOL!
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by EscortBiz


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                                                                                              • Brown Bear
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                                                                                                • May 2002
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Loch

                                                                                                They will have their money refounded by June at the latest.
                                                                                                Yeah, June 2004
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                                                                                                • hershie
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                  • 4642

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  i am a content provider - and still haven't received the email? Maybe the clarity of "PayPal will no longer support transactions for adult content or products" isn't so clearly defined yet?

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                                                                                                  • EscortBiz
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                                                                                                    • 19422

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by hershie
                                                                                                    i am a content provider - and still haven't received the email? Maybe the clarity of "PayPal will no longer support transactions for adult content or products" isn't so clearly defined yet?
                                                                                                    Well I hope you have no cash in your paypal account because they will freeze accounts real quick and good lukc getting your money.

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