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  • jojojo
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 2318
    #1

    How much do you pay per GB?

    I see all kinds of crazy deals everywhere and per mbs deals - so much misleading bs everywhere.

    Bottom line - I am curious how much you pay per gb and how much gb/mth do you push.

    For one of my projects I push about 1000gb/mth and pay $0.60/gb

    I'd say for real unmetered b/w it should get much cheaper than that.
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    • Shoplifter
      Richest man in Babylon
      • Jan 2002
      • 5866
      #2
      I do 100 gigs a day on each of my servers. I pay about $350 each for them.
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        • Marcus
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 3472
          #3
          i pay $.75/gig for tgp galleries

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            • DjSap
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2002
              • 3869
              #4
              Diffrent from host to host, but the cheapest that i'm currently using for galleries is $0.066/Gig
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                • Morgan
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • May 2002
                  • 10520
                  #5
                  I think I calculated mine to .1666666666... per gig.

                  **what is the max amt. of gigs you can produce on 10mbps????
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                    • BRISK
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 12240
                      #6
                      25 cents a gb for top quality bandwidth
                      I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                        • Brujah
                          Beer Money Baron
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 22157
                          #7
                          Bandwidth costs about 0.17 per gig wholesale. Anything above that is just profit.

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                            • Calvinguy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1752
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
                              I think I calculated mine to .1666666666... per gig.

                              **what is the max amt. of gigs you can produce on 10mbps????
                              At 10mbps 24 hours a day in a month you can transfer about 3000 GB

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                                • el_pimpodogo
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 13
                                  #9
                                  $300 per 5mbits

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                                    • Niki
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 1476
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by BRISK
                                      25 cents a gb for top quality bandwidth
                                      which host?
                                      Ivo

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                                        • BRISK
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 12240
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Niki


                                          which host?
                                          Thats a secret for now

                                          Actually, they are on this board. I got a good rate because I buy a lot of traffic.
                                          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                            • res
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 1118
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by BRISK


                                              Thats a secret for now

                                              Actually, they are on this board. I got a good rate because I buy a lot of traffic.
                                              Ok, please answer then: How much traffic do you have per month ?

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                                                • smut monger
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 211
                                                  #13
                                                  Damn, I need urls - post'em here NOW!

                                                  I need 500Gb [for hosted galleries so I need php also], who can give me it for less than $0.30/GB?
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                                                    • cotsios
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 1371
                                                      #14
                                                      Our prices start from $0.19 +
                                                      High Quality bandwith ( No cogent )
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                                                        • DannyW
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 117
                                                          #15
                                                          http://www.cheapbw.com is from 30c per gig for no-frills gallery hosting, cheaper for really high volumes - I've found them pretty good, and the payment system is quite flexible.

                                                          Danny

                                                          Edit - just read your post again, they don't do PHP I think.
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                                                            • Snake Doctor
                                                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                              • 13449
                                                              #16
                                                              There are a lot of misleading deals out there Jojojo. It depends on if you want the lowest price on "theoretical gigs" or if you want to pay for what you actually use.
                                                              Someone can drop you a 10mbps line and tell you that its worth 3000 gigs a month, but its really not.
                                                              In theory, 10mbps peaked throughout the month will get you that many gigs, but if you have a capped 10mbps line and you keep it peaked, your sites will be unreachable.
                                                              You need to buy about twice as many megs as you average to ensure that your sites will load quickly during peak traffic times. So if you average 10mbps you'd have to buy 20mbps and so on.

                                                              I'd bet that most of these people who tell you they're getting 16 cents or 30 cents a gig pricing are basing it on the 10mbps=3000 gigs theory. If they sat down and figured up how much bandwidth they actually used, not how much they think they're allowed to use, the price would be much different.

                                                              Oh and BTW, I'm currently paying about 50 cents a gig, billed for what I actually use, for dual homed Level3/Uunet bandwidth.
                                                              And I push about 3500-4000 gigs a month.
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                                                                • smut monger
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                  • 211
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Well, I'm conscious of those "word games" some host used to play. That's why I'm giving you my exact inquiry. Plain and simple.
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                                                                    • Niki
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 1476
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                      Oh and BTW, I'm currently paying about 50 cents a gig, billed for what I actually use, for dual homed Level3/Uunet bandwidth.
                                                                      And I push about 3500-4000 gigs a month.

                                                                      which host?
                                                                      Ivo

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                                                                        • Kick Ass Chat
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 2057
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                          There are a lot of misleading deals out there Jojojo. It depends on if you want the lowest price on "theoretical gigs" or if you want to pay for what you actually use.
                                                                          Someone can drop you a 10mbps line and tell you that its worth 3000 gigs a month, but its really not.
                                                                          In theory, 10mbps peaked throughout the month will get you that many gigs, but if you have a capped 10mbps line and you keep it peaked, your sites will be unreachable.
                                                                          You need to buy about twice as many megs as you average to ensure that your sites will load quickly during peak traffic times. So if you average 10mbps you'd have to buy 20mbps and so on.

                                                                          I'd bet that most of these people who tell you they're getting 16 cents or 30 cents a gig pricing are basing it on the 10mbps=3000 gigs theory. If they sat down and figured up how much bandwidth they actually used, not how much they think they're allowed to use, the price would be much different.

                                                                          Oh and BTW, I'm currently paying about 50 cents a gig, billed for what I actually use, for dual homed Level3/Uunet bandwidth.
                                                                          And I push about 3500-4000 gigs a month.
                                                                          Well said
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                                                                            • foreverjason
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 1452
                                                                              #20
                                                                              .25 cents a gig here

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                                                                                • keyDet79
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 1109
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                  Bandwidth costs about 0.17 per gig wholesale. Anything above that is just profit.
                                                                                  Not true, we can get .08/gb wholesale.

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                                                                                    • Phil21
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 993
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Hrm..


                                                                                      As a host, here is what I have to say. Others in this thread got it right as well.

                                                                                      I can give you a nice pre-packaged deal @ .35/GB for 500GB.

                                                                                      -or- $.50/GB flat-rate no commitment

                                                                                      -or-

                                                                                      $800 for 10Mbit/sec.

                                                                                      Really, it's about all the same for me. No one ever uses their entire GB/mo commitment, but people will sign up for that plan 9 times out of 10 over the $.50/GB flat-rate, and 9 out of 10 of those people will be paying more than $.50/GB when you figure their actual usage.

                                                                                      -Phil
                                                                                      Quality affordable hosting.

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                                                                                        • logic00
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 175
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
                                                                                          I think I calculated mine to .1666666666... per gig.

                                                                                          **what is the max amt. of gigs you can produce on 10mbps????
                                                                                          on a 10Mbps line if you push 24 X 7 for 30 days you will transfer about 3,300 gigs (330 per Meg)

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                                                                                            • logic00
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 175
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by el_pimpodogo
                                                                                              $300 per 5mbits
                                                                                              Thats good is that with SLA? what provider?

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                                                                                                • logic00
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                  • 175
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by BRISK


                                                                                                  Thats a secret for now

                                                                                                  Actually, they are on this board. I got a good rate because I buy a lot of traffic.
                                                                                                  $.25 per Gig? thats not bad, but with a contract I can beat that Actually if you look at our banner you will see a deal for $.24 + a free server. Thats with 10Mbps line.

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                                                                                                    • logic00
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 175
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by smut monger
                                                                                                      Damn, I need urls - post'em here NOW!

                                                                                                      I need 500Gb [for hosted galleries so I need php also], who can give me it for less than $0.30/GB?
                                                                                                      How does $.29 per Gig + $50 per U sounds?

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                                                                                                        • strobi
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                          • 7383
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          0.6 for premium but I don't push that mutch

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                                                                                                            • Krille
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                              • 2436
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I pay $0,066 per gig, got to love december deals :D

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                                                                                                                • G Sharp
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                  • 1343
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  How much for 10mbs COLOCATED? Spam me via ICQ with price quotes. I had a quote for verio bw at 300 per 5mbs Can anyone beat this?

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                                                                                                                    • PeekHoles
                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                      • 1151
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by keyDet79


                                                                                                                      Not true, we can get .08/gb wholesale.
                                                                                                                      http://www.vibehosting.com/

                                                                                                                      I cant reach your site maybe its just me.

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                                                                                                                        • G Sharp
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                          • 1343
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Forplaz



                                                                                                                          I cant reach your site maybe its just me.
                                                                                                                          Can't reach it either.

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                                                                                                                            • jojojo
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                              • 2318
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              So I was right - most people pay $0.50-$0.75/gb and the rest of you THINK you are paying less.

                                                                                                                              So no one sells b/w per gb unmetered for $0.25 - everyone is jabbering about 10mbs line or 500mbs line - blah blah blah.

                                                                                                                              Fucking crooks

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                                                                                                                                • AdultNex
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 8985
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  $0.50 / GB.

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                                                                                                                                    • logic00
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 175
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by jojojo
                                                                                                                                      So I was right - most people pay $0.50-$0.75/gb and the rest of you THINK you are paying less.

                                                                                                                                      So no one sells b/w per gb unmetered for $0.25 - everyone is jabbering about 10mbs line or 500mbs line - blah blah blah.

                                                                                                                                      Fucking crooks

                                                                                                                                      jojojo we can sell as low as $.24 depending on how much you buy, but as you can tell from reading these threads you get you pay for. At $.24 you will get cheap traffic and yes there might be some packet loss.

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                                                                                                                                        • Brujah
                                                                                                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 22157
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by keyDet79


                                                                                                                                          Not true, we can get .08/gb wholesale.
                                                                                                                                          The difference between 0.08/gb and 0.17/gb bandwidth is that with 8cents per gb you only get to reach it half the time ;)

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                                                                                                                                            • Yo Adrian
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 6326
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by AdultNex
                                                                                                                                              $0.50 / GB.
                                                                                                                                              $0.49 / GB

                                                                                                                                              you're getting ripped off man
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                                                                                                                                                • keyDet79
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 1109
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Brujah


                                                                                                                                                  The difference between 0.08/gb and 0.17/gb bandwidth is that with 8cents per gb you only get to reach it half the time ;)
                                                                                                                                                  How about 99% of the time.

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                                                                                                                                                    • kronic
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 964
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      My bill for this month was $640.00

                                                                                                                                                      My total usage was 2800 GB. High point on MRTG was 16.7 M

                                                                                                                                                      So, about 23 cents flat rate per gig.

                                                                                                                                                      Oh, but I DID have about 5 minutes of downtime.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Brujah
                                                                                                                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 22157
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by keyDet79


                                                                                                                                                          How about 99% of the time.
                                                                                                                                                          LOL well it was just a joke bro, because vibehosting.com still doesn't load.

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                                                                                                                                                            • posh rat in hell
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 403
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by logic00


                                                                                                                                                              jojojo we can sell as low as $.24 depending on how much you buy, but as you can tell from reading these threads you get you pay for. At $.24 you will get cheap traffic and yes there might be some packet loss.

                                                                                                                                                              Am I the only one seeing this?
                                                                                                                                                              Quick, everyone sign up! He can offer high packet loss hosting!

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                                                                                                                                                                • keyDet79
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1109
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Brujah


                                                                                                                                                                  LOL well it was just a joke bro, because vibehosting.com still doesn't load.
                                                                                                                                                                  But it's up, ping it, so that was a bad comment. Were downgrading php, having problems with ModernBill (billing script) and took down Apache. We pay 0.08/gb for Cogent bw and it's good.
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by keyDet79; 03-10-2003, 05:08 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • TheJimmy
                                                                                                                                                                      ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 10747
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Dayummmmm

                                                                                                                                                                      I feel like a total chump now for paying 300 per mpbs and 2bucks a gig overage :/ my host must fucking love my gravy train...



                                                                                                                                                                      good thing I don't do any heavy submitting or I'd be one broke mofo...

                                                                                                                                                                      guess it's time to move my dedicated box...


                                                                                                                                                                      who's got good recommendations for solid hosting at these kicking rates that I seem to be missing out on...

                                                                                                                                                                      thanks in advance...
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                                                                                                                                                                        • playa
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 6432
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by keyDet79


                                                                                                                                                                          But it's up, ping it, so that was a bad comment. Were downgrading php, having problems with ModernBill (billing script) and took down Apache. We pay 0.08/gb for Cogent bw and it's good.

                                                                                                                                                                          whatever dude,, your still down for me also

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                                                                                                                                                                            • ry0t
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 4160
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Defiantweb.com http://www.defiantweb.com not secure ssl sign up yet, but they offer good hosting.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • rowan
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 17393
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                                                                                                                                  Dayummmmm

                                                                                                                                                                                  I feel like a total chump now for paying 300 per mpbs and 2bucks a gig overage :/ my host must fucking love my gravy train...
                                                                                                                                                                                  I can beat that! A certain provider quoted me $425 per month for 1Mbit/sec and 1RU of rack space. (ie extra $$$ to provide my own server)

                                                                                                                                                                                  In the same email they mentioned they match prices of other hosts. In other words, they know they're ripping me off with that quote.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • TheJimmy
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 10747
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by rowan


                                                                                                                                                                                      I can beat that! A certain provider quoted me $425 per month for 1Mbit/sec and 1RU of rack space. (ie extra $$$ to provide my own server)

                                                                                                                                                                                      In the same email they mentioned they match prices of other hosts. In other words, they know they're ripping me off with that quote.
                                                                                                                                                                                      LOL this is with a 'bought' server as well....it's my box that I already paid for....

                                                                                                                                                                                      the 300 a month is just to sit there and give me a whoping 150 gigs, and 2bucks overage...

                                                                                                                                                                                      I got the gravy-train package obviously.....

                                                                                                                                                                                      time to renegotiate pricing or move....foooooo shoooooooo
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • jojojo
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2318
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          My bill for this month was $640.00

                                                                                                                                                                                          My total usage was 2800 GB. High point on MRTG was 16.7 M

                                                                                                                                                                                          So, about 23 cents flat rate per gig.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh, but I DID have about 5 minutes of downtime.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Are you billed per GB or do you pay $640 for the line if so how much $10/mbs?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • oscer
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 2834
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by kronic
                                                                                                                                                                                              My bill for this month was $640.00

                                                                                                                                                                                              My total usage was 2800 GB. High point on MRTG was 16.7 M

                                                                                                                                                                                              So, about 23 cents flat rate per gig.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Oh, but I DID have about 5 minutes of downtime.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Yea 5 minutes sucks
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • kronic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 964
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jojojo


                                                                                                                                                                                                  Are you billed per GB or do you pay $640 for the line if so how much $10/mbs?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  $400 for an uncapped 10mbps line. Overage prices remain the same, $40 per 1mbps. I maxed out at 16.7 (Had I hit 17, it would have been another $40).

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Because of this my actual price per month, per gig may vary.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I DO have a "Friend" price.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • kronic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by oscer


                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yea 5 minutes sucks
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh, I was fuming

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