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  • stocktrader23
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    • Jan 2003
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    #1

    Sadaam could turn a US invasion into a "bloody nightmare."

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/881770.asp?vts=030920032140

    Long story so here are a few excerpts.


    "His survival strategy is probably hopeless. But he has every reason to believe he can sway world opinion. And if that fails, he can turn a surgical U.S. invasion into a bloody nightmare."

    "It was the usual creepy military parade through downtown Baghdad. Some of Saddam?s fedayeen (?men of sacrifice?) were dressed in dazzling white uniforms??the color of a shroud, because we expect to die,? explained a 24-year-old fedayeen leader. More jarring were the fedayeen garbed in the familiar tan camouflage of the United States Army. Saddam has ordered thousands of uniforms identical, down to the last detail, to those worn by U.S. and British troopers. The plan: to have Saddam?s men, posing as Western invaders, slaughter Iraqi citizens while the cameras roll for Al-Jazeera and the credulous Arab press."

    "Hated by his own subjects, Saddam has to hope that his people loathe the American invaders even more. Iraqi citizens have been given arms to fight house to house. Most will likely hide or surrender. But not the 15,000-man Special Republican Guard, made up largely of Saddam?s fellow tribesmen, nor Saddam?s Special Security Organization, a force of some 5,000 thugs and torturers who will be strung up by mobs if captured, and thus have every incentive to fight to the last man.
    Iraqi workers have been digging trenches all around Baghdad. Some intelligence sources believe that Saddam will order them filled with oil and set afire. The picture is almost medieval, a ?wall of flame? around the besieged citadel. Saddam hopes to dull America?s technological edge: a thick pall of oily smoke would interfere with the laser guidance system used on some American bombs. (Far more bombs, however, are aimed by satellite, which would be unaffected.) "


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  • jim manly
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    • Oct 2002
    • 605

    #2
    Haha they are preparing for a ground war mostly, when they are to stupid to realize that they are gonna get so fucking bombed up the ass its unreal. There will be nothing left after the bombing to defend themselves.

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    • Pointless
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      • Jan 2003
      • 2142

      #3
      Originally posted by jim manly
      Haha they are preparing for a ground war mostly, when they are to stupid to realize that they are gonna get so fucking bombed up the ass its unreal. There will be nothing left after the bombing to defend themselves.
      it will be difficult to bomb the shit out of civilian targets where most of the fighting will most probably occur
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      • nap
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        • Dec 2002
        • 2765

        #4
        thanks for the paraphrase.
        people think that this war will be over in a very short amount of time which might be true, but how long was the US bombing afganistan? isn't Iraq's air defense systems better than they were during the first gulf war?

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        • stocktrader23
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          • Jan 2003
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          #5
          They also mentioned alot of soldiers will be dressed as civilians. Unless we are going to all out bomb everything this will be a ground war.


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          • rooster
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            • Jan 2003
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            #6
            http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/n...&siteid=106694

            The iraqi soldiers are already surrendering, but they had to be sent back because the war didnt start yet. Classic.
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            • cosis
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              • Aug 2001
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              #7
              Originally posted by rooster
              http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/n...&siteid=106694

              The iraqi soldiers are already surrendering, but they had to be sent back because the war didnt start yet. Classic.

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              • MuleScrote
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                • Dec 2002
                • 4601

                #8
                Originally posted by rooster
                http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/n...&siteid=106694

                The iraqi soldiers are already surrendering, but they had to be sent back because the war didnt start yet. Classic.
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                • stocktrader23
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                  • Jan 2003
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rooster
                  http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/n...&siteid=106694

                  The iraqi soldiers are already surrendering, but they had to be sent back because the war didnt start yet. Classic.


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                  • TheJimmy
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                    • Jan 2001
                    • 10747

                    #10
                    I may be a bit biased since I spent about 12 years in the USAF and did a little time in the last Desert extravaganza...

                    but that dumbass just never gives up the desire to get his troops asses kicked

                    he's a lot of talk as his ass is no where near the front line or on the recieving end of those lovely 2000lb bombs or cruise missiles...

                    I think the majority of his troops will be smart enough to surrender as they did last time in large numbers...

                    hell some of them already tried to surrender to our troops the other day when they were holding some live fire exercises LOL! they had to tell them to go back to their positions (not time for that yet)




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                    • Matt_WildCash
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1699

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rooster
                      http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/n...&siteid=106694

                      The iraqi soldiers are already surrendering, but they had to be sent back because the war didnt start yet. Classic.
                      That is so FUNNY!!!

                      Sorry the War hasn't started yet you can't surrendar, come back next week LOL

                      And yeah they are going to hit IRAQ with 10 times the amount of bombs and bomb the living crap out of them. Afganistan was just a small troop deployment a few 1000 men and most of the work was done by the air force and the Northern Allanice. But this is Hardcore US Troops with a shitload of backup, 260,000 troops. They will bomb the living crap out of them and then move in and finish them off easy.

                      Does anyone remember how pathetic the IRAQ army was in the gulf war, they were being bombed and bombed like crazy and they were starving had poor moral and just were happy to surrendar. That was when IRAQ was at its peak finanicially and ecomomically. Imagine how pathetic there moral will be once they see the hail of shit that the US Air force brings down on them this time. They'll be rushing to surrendar even faster.

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                      • DavePlays
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                        • Jan 2003
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                        #12
                        ha... from what I heard today - some of Saddam's soldiers already tried to surrender. Don't hold your breath - they hate him too.
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                        • TheFLY
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                          • Jan 2001
                          • 11856

                          #13
                          I was amazed how many people in my town protested this weekend... Hundreds of people all ages and all walks of life...
                          Pretty cool... there was dancing and singing and lots of common sense from the womens and childrens.

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                          • Zebra
                            Banned from Kimmy's couch
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 5091

                            #14
                            Don't think it is going to be a cakewalk. Last time we stopped from going to Baghdad. If we had gone to get Saddam it would have been a lot messier than it was. The Revolutionary Guard fled back to Baghdad quick and we slaughtered many of them on the road but once they arrived in Baghdad and were able to get to the defenses they had in place there we would have had a very tough time cleaning them out. It would have switched from open warfare to urban warfare. The only real urban battle during Desert Storm was The Battle of Khafji where 11 Marines died. Iraqi losses during the battle were estimated at 200. This was in a battle with appr. 500 Iraqi troops and 45 tanks. Imagine if we have to fight the 15k "elite" troops that are dug in around Baghdad. Won't be easy no matter how good we are. We will win but it wont be without a cost.

                            BTW.. what will this war be called? Desert Storm 2? Saddam: Wanted Dead or Alive?

                            I'm sure it is going to happen, with or without UN support. Just hope we get lucky and get Saddam early so that it can all be over. I'm sure once he is gone there will be some General or one of his sons that wants to take control but I doubt they will have much success in the chaos.
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                            • dav555add
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                              • Jun 2001
                              • 3427

                              #15
                              The real problem will not be beating the iraqi army, that will be done very quickly.

                              The real problem will come when our troops start going into baghdad, anyone who has fought knows that urban warfare is very bloody and difficult. For those of you who have any doubt about that, go out and rent "Blackhawk Down".

                              The problem will also come from suicide bombers who will target our troops. Their aims is not only to kill as many of our soldiers as possible, but to also have our troops shoot any civilians approaching them.

                              And God forbids that maniac decides to use, as a last ditch effort, chemical or biological weapons; then this could turn into a slaughter.

                              But unfortunately, not going in now would only delay the unavoidable, that maniac must be stopped.

                              But if you think that war will be bloody, just wait until we have to take out the maniac in north korea...
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                              • stocktrader23
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                                • Jan 2003
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by dav555add
                                The real problem will not be beating the iraqi army, that will be done very quickly.

                                The real problem will come when our troops start going into baghdad, anyone who has fought knows that urban warfare is very bloody and difficult. For those of you who have any doubt about that, go out and rent "Blackhawk Down".

                                The problem will also come from suicide bombers who will target our troops. Their aims is not only to kill as many of our soldiers as possible, but to also have our troops shoot any civilians approaching them.

                                And God forbids that maniac decides to use, as a last ditch effort, chemical or biological weapons; then this could turn into a slaughter.

                                But unfortunately, not going in now would only delay the unavoidable, that maniac must be stopped.

                                But if you think that war will be bloody, just wait until we have to take out the maniac in north korea...


                                I try to point this out but all the warheads on here think we will 100% just drop bombs and it will end. Possible but highly unlikely, we could lose more troops than alot of people expect.


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                                • FlyingIguana
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                                  • Mar 2002
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                                  #17
                                  we'll just send in the cnn camera crews. they'll all surrender and there will be no bloodshed.

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                                  • stocktrader23
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                                    • Jan 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                    we'll just send in the cnn camera crews. they'll all surrender and there will be no bloodshed.
                                    If only it would be that easy this time.


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                                    • ADL Colin
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                                      • Feb 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by nap
                                      isn't Iraq's air defense systems better than they were during the first gulf war?
                                      The US and Britain have flown at least 50,000 missions over Iraq since 1998. I don't think Iraq has brought down any planes in that time.


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                                      • ADL Colin
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                                        • Feb 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Maybe the US will do something like what was done in Afghanistan.

                                        Round up some anti-Saddam Shiites and Kurds and bribe some Iraqi commanders. Arm them and send them into Baghdad with air cover to take out Saddam.


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