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Americans - Do you know what EU is ?

03-05-2003, 04:11 AM

Been many articles in papers about how little
US people know about politics outside US and how
little americans no about other countries.

So, because of this I'd like to see what you know
about EU ?
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03-05-2003, 04:32 AM

If France has their way it will be the new ussr.

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03-05-2003, 04:39 AM

What it looks like to me is a european imitation of the US, but it won't work very long for the same reasons all those europeans left Europe to make the US..doh!

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03-05-2003, 04:43 AM

eu won't work
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03-05-2003, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by Ironhorse
... all those europeans left Europe to make the US..doh!

don't worry, it won't happen anymore...

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03-05-2003, 04:49 AM

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don't worry, it won't happen anymore...

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03-05-2003, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by jeroman
Been many articles in papers about how little
US people know about politics outside US and how
little americans no about other countries.

So, because of this I'd like to see what you know
about EU ?

A group of weak, inferior nations trying to combine their economic force to compete with its betters?

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03-05-2003, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks

A group of weak, inferior nations trying to combine their economic force to compete with its betters?

weak indeed... watch USD /Euro parity a year ago and now...
eh.. shit happens..

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03-05-2003, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks

A group of weak, inferior nations trying to combine their economic force to compete with its betters?

this is correct.

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03-05-2003, 05:27 AM

... what a silly topic, I am pretty much sure that 99.9% of the US people know what and where the EU is.

... but you can´t expect an american to tell you how to drive from mardid to london, as you couldn´t expect an european to tell you how to get from miami to washington ...
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03-05-2003, 05:28 AM

EU...
arabs tried it in the 60's and had United Arab States association...
today they shout at each other at the Arab League metings and lasted for 3 years before they broke up...

EU....Euro....
and the price of Gold, Oil and all other major commodities is still qiuoted in..
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03-05-2003, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
... what a silly topic, I am pretty much sure that 99.9% of the US people know what and where the EU is.

... but you can´t expect an american to tell you how to drive from mardid to london, as you couldn´t expect an european to tell you how to get from miami to washington ...

why?
from Madrid thru France to the tunnel and vou-a-la,
you are there
;-))

I can even recomend some hotels along the way
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03-05-2003, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by flashfreak

don't worry, it won't happen anymore...

Look at the numbers dude. You be living in dream land if you think Europe will speak and act with one voice as well as the US.

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03-05-2003, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by KRL

Look at the numbers dude. You be living in dream land if you think Europe will speak and act with one voice as well as the US.

KRL,
bad example...there are too many voices in USA
;-(

it ain't 1941 anymore...
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03-05-2003, 05:38 AM

You actually have to like the other person to be a successfull union.
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03-05-2003, 05:39 AM

so u are saying.. that Bush correctly represents the will of most US citizens? Just a question.
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03-05-2003, 05:40 AM

"from Madrid thru France to the tunnel and vou-a-la,"

... buachahahaha, I know that you know because you´ve been around a bit. you´d even find your way from nowosibirsk to munich with your eyes shut !!!
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03-05-2003, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by funkmaster
"from Madrid thru France to the tunnel and vou-a-la,"

... buachahahaha, I know that you know because you´ve been around a bit. you´d even find your way from nowosibirsk to munich with your eyes shut !!!

I'd probably would go East thru US and all the Europe just because I like it
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I personally LOVE Europe,
not their politics, but what they can offer culturally...

US is not anywhere close.
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03-05-2003, 05:45 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks

A group of weak, inferior nations trying to combine their economic force to compete with its betters?

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03-05-2003, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Ironhorse
all those europeans left Europe to make the US..doh!

Where did you learn that?

First americans were prisonners. Reject by everybody in their country. Their only chance to survive was to go in america.
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03-05-2003, 05:53 AM

The EU is the european attempt to inject the most paperwork possible into government. Now everything must be translated 15 times and all the money is ugly.

They also seem bound and determined to depreciate the value of the ugly money to the point where the looney will become the world standard.

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03-05-2003, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

KRL,
bad example...there are too many voices in USA
;-(

it ain't 1941 anymore...

Yeh, thinking about it Democrats Republicans, what's the difference these days . . .

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03-05-2003, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

why?
from Madrid thru France to the tunnel and vou-a-la,
you are there
;-))

From Spain I would recommend taking a car ferry rather than driving all the way to the tunnel which you can't drive through anyway.

So, mine aswell drive your car on to a boat and eat, drink, gamble your way across.

Also..it does seem that a lot of people don't know the difference between Europe, the EU, and the common currency. Don't worry not everyone Europe knows the difference.
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03-05-2003, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by jeroman
Been many articles in papers about how little
US people know about politics outside US and how
little americans no about other countries.

So, because of this I'd like to see what you know
about EU ?

While we're at it, by watching some of the things you Europeans post on here, I wonder, do you guys even know how to think outside what you read and see on the news? I mean, it's not that hard to use your head once in awhile, really. It seems that every time you try to talk shit Americans, you always refer to the same cheesy news article: "Americans don't know the map!", "Americans need to get out more!". Look and realize the facts, instead of reading some half ass attempt at a scientific study, and I'll guarantee that you'll find the answers to all your questions. I'll give you some simple off the top of my head hints:

- In just over 220 years, America has grown to become the richest, most powerful nation the world has even seen. All this because of AMERICAN economic and political policies.

- Chances are, you or one of your family members at some point in their life, attended school at an American University. Well, scratch this in your case. Based on the question that you asked above, it seems that you probably have never attended any higher education institution.

- Chances are, you're using a sponsor program that is "Made in the USA, by an AMERICAN entrepreneur" *ding* I hear a lightbulb turning on in a European's head right now.
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03-05-2003, 02:10 PM

I am an American, I love Europe and I think the EU has serious problems. The challenges of merging so many diverse cultures and national identities is daunting. The progress has been good but some of the problems are showing now as each member country tries to identify and define it's international policies.

The statement by Jacque Chirac in the past few weeks threating new members of the EU can undermine a good thing.

One more note regarding currency and other economic issues. The US is paying an economic proce for financing 60 years of protecting Europe from the Soviet Union. US Taxpayers shouldered most of the bill for defending Western Europe. The other side buckled under the economic pressure.
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03-05-2003, 04:22 PM

EU, thats that French place, right?

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03-05-2003, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by jeroman
...and how
little americans no about other countries.
...

And how little you KNOW about how to spell KNOW.

;-)

but overall you're probably right, many American's aren't all that hip on global politics, etc...beyond what is portrayed on CNN...

but be careful about making blanket statements about Americans, that door swings both ways...

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03-05-2003, 04:32 PM

This might be a clever question if it wasn't for the fact that we're all on the Internet here and can look up just about anything to sound intelligent.

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03-05-2003, 04:35 PM

EU rocks.
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03-05-2003, 04:37 PM

And Mercosur/Mercosul could be much, much better than it is.
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03-05-2003, 04:38 PM

I hate these US/EU/our dicks are bigger than yours type posts but...

Originally posted by BigFish

- In just over 220 years, America has grown to become the richest, most powerful nation the world has even seen. All this because of AMERICAN economic and political policies.

I wouldn't brag about US policies which I hope you realise include slavery being one of the main reason you guys are so powerful

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03-05-2003, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by johnuk
I hate these US/EU/our dicks are bigger than yours type posts but...
...

I wouldn't brag about US policies which I hope you realise include slavery being one of the main reason you guys are so powerful
....

Statement 1 - agreed

Statement 2 - look in the mirror, the US was not the only one that had that as a legally acceptable practice for many years...

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03-05-2003, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by TheJimmy

Statement 1 - agreed

Statement 2 - look in the mirror, the US was not the only one that had that as a legally acceptable practice for many years...

Of course, however as far as I know the UK was the first (or at least one of the the first) to abolish slavery.
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I'm not the one telling everyone how great and powerful my country is.

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03-05-2003, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by johnuk

Of course, however as far as I know the UK was the first (or at least one of the the first) to abolish slavery.
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I'm not the one telling everyone how great and powerful my country is.

No you guys quit doing that when you stopped with the saying that the British Empire was one that the sun never set on...

or something along those lines...

or was it us yanks that made up that saying for you? ;-)

we are rather full of ourselves, but I think that holds true for ANY country (EU, US, Asian, etc)... human nature in general is all about 'being a team picker, a flag waver, etc'

people have and still do fight wars over something as silly as a gang color, family crest, or a country's flag...

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03-09-2003, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by BigFish

While we're at it, by watching some of the things you Europeans post on here, I wonder, do you guys even know how to think outside what you read and see on the news? I mean, it's not that hard to use your head once in awhile, really. It seems that every time you try to talk shit Americans, you always refer to the same cheesy news article: "Americans don't know the map!", "Americans need to get out more!". Look and realize the facts, instead of reading some half ass attempt at a scientific study, and I'll guarantee that you'll find the answers to all your questions. I'll give you some simple off the top of my head hints:

- In just over 220 years, America has grown to become the richest, most powerful nation the world has even seen. All this because of AMERICAN economic and political policies.

- Chances are, you or one of your family members at some point in their life, attended school at an American University. Well, scratch this in your case. Based on the question that you asked above, it seems that you probably have never attended any higher education institution.

- Chances are, you're using a sponsor program that is "Made in the USA, by an AMERICAN entrepreneur" *ding* I hear a lightbulb turning on in a European's head right now.

Mr Fish,

I like US
I have been there
I am using US made programs, Webhost, Processors
because, simply, they are the best.
No, I have not attended any higher education because of the
simple reason I earn more than any person I know of that
has attended a higher education, not counting Bush - oh sorry
scrath that one, I mean Bill Gates, President of a big compnay,
scammers from worldcom etc..

My question was not - You know nothing !
It was a simple question to know if fellow webmasters
from the US knew about EU.

Strange that some people always smell a fight.
Don't know how you can hang around being paranoid.

Mr Fish, I'm sorry if I offended you.
If I could I would delete this subject and make the time
go back.

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03-09-2003, 03:08 PM

Is there a point to this?

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03-09-2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by jeroman
Been many articles in papers about how little
US people know about politics outside US and how
little americans no about other countries.

So, because of this I'd like to see what you know
about EU ?

Well.... that turn out to be a stupid question didn't it?

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03-09-2003, 04:18 PM

Especially Useless conglomerate of atypical entities. In short, a union of mostly retarded nations all wanting to destroy each other...
Except for the UK and the Netherlands...

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03-09-2003, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks

A group of weak, inferior nations trying to combine their economic force to compete with its betters?

Funny that Poland wants into there little union but will buy there millitary jets from US companies. I heard that Jacques Chirac who thinks he runs the whole union was quite pissed off at that.

It's not that we don't know about what goes on there, it's just for the most part we aren't obsessed with it like you guys seem to be about the US and what goes on here.

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03-09-2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by BigFish

- Chances are, you or one of your family members at some point in their life, attended school at an American University. Well, scratch this in your case. Based on the question that you asked above, it seems that you probably have never attended any higher education institution.

American education is pretty much shit. An American university diploma isn't worth shit here in holland. Our average university can be compared to your Yale or Harvard.

It's a known fact Europeans are better educated. What a bullshit comment.

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03-09-2003, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by ChrisH
Funny that Poland wants into there little union but will buy there millitary jets from US companies. I heard that Jacques Chirac who thinks he runs the whole union was quite pissed off at that.

Another great bullshit comment, the Dutch (and a lot of other European countries) buy their jets and some other weaponry from the americans. You heared wrong.

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03-09-2003, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Tex Willer
eu won't work

Let's see... WON'T = abbreviation of "will not". Future tense. "eu won't work", does that mean it'll stop working some time in the future? 'Cause from what I know it's been working fine for the past few decades. Sure, EU member countries might speak different languages, but hell, I bet most Americans have a hard time understanding what them folks in Alabama say, right?

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03-09-2003, 06:36 PM

Why do these other countries have to come and start on the US for? They constantly say we arent shit BUT they have their hands out in droves looking for a handout in the form of aid all the time!!! And I mean a lot of them. I was an officer in the military of the united states and saw a lot of these countries that think we are dumb asses and let me tell you that there was absolutely nothing to be impressed with when I was over there.

I think the US should take a more isolationist approach to things and let these other countries finally fend for themselves!!! Besides that we are pretty much broke now anyway!LOL

God I get sick of this crap, acting like it takes a brain surgeon to be an adult webmaster or something, give me a break!!!
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03-09-2003, 07:21 PM

Arthur Schlesinger opined that there were more wars between groups separated by language than even by religion. It'll be a miracle if the EU turns into anything resembling a country. And this is also why the US should resist becoming multilingual (in a regional way: with some states being Spanish-speaking primarily and some English-speaking...I'm NOT saying people shouldn't speak whatever language they want). For evidence of the kind of turmoil competing language groups can cause within a political entity, just look at Canada.

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03-09-2003, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
Arthur Schlesinger opined that there were more wars between groups separated by language than even by religion. It'll be a miracle if the EU turns into anything resembling a country. And this is also why the US should resist becoming multilingual (in a regional way: with some states being Spanish-speaking primarily and some English-speaking...I'm NOT saying people shouldn't speak whatever language they want). For evidence of the kind of turmoil competing language groups can cause within a political entity, just look at Canada.

BS, Belgium speaks Dutch (north) and French (south), Holland is seriously considering making Friesch (language spoken in a Dutch province) a 2nd official language of the Netherlands.

Nothing wrong with that.

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#49

03-09-2003, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
Arthur Schlesinger opined that there were more wars between groups separated by language than even by religion. It'll be a miracle if the EU turns into anything resembling a country. And this is also why the US should resist becoming multilingual (in a regional way: with some states being Spanish-speaking primarily and some English-speaking...I'm NOT saying people shouldn't speak whatever language they want). For evidence of the kind of turmoil competing language groups can cause within a political entity, just look at Canada.

Did he only opine or did he actually have some research to base his statement on? 'Cause I'm sure that I can find research by other people stating the exact opposite. It eventually boils down to your criteria for swifting through research data. If you're even slightly biased (which most people always are, regardless of how much they think they aren't), then your resluts will be biased.

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03-09-2003, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by DamageX
Let's see... WON'T = abbreviation of "will not". Future tense. "eu won't work", does that mean it'll stop working some time in the future? 'Cause from what I know it's been working fine for the past few decades. Sure, EU member countries might speak different languages, but hell, I bet most Americans have a hard time understanding what them folks in Alabama say, right?

of course, I was talking about the so-called untied states of europe, the way the eu is supposedly heading at the moment

american-like muli-ethnicities assimilating into common culture wouldn?t easily work in eu

sure, it could be done if there?d be time to adapt people's thinking and time to adjust
but there will be no time
us of a will do its best to prevent the forming of such powerful state/nation
and it?s only a matter of time when muslim minority in europe will stop considering itself a minority

and lot of other reasons but these two are the most important
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