Should The Billing Companies Have their Own Pay Sites?

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  • AaronM
    GFY Royality ;)
    • Oct 2001
    • 46917

    #51
    50 BIATCH!

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    • NETbilling
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 8599

      #52
      Originally posted by AaronM
      50 BIATCH!
      Darn AaronM,

      I always miss #50.

      Mitch


      Mitch Farber
      CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
      Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
      Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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      • SoBeGirl Video
        So Fucking Banned
        • Sep 2002
        • 2493

        #53
        Mithch, If what you say is true, and you would NEVER NEVER steal a customers email, then why is it important that you scrub your own signups. You state that in your email and I quote "We do all our own scrubbing". If you are being fair in your business then why should that give you any advantage? The scrubbing should be the same for your own paysites and the paysites for your netbiliing customers. Or, do you scrub differently for yourown sites than you do for those of your billing customers. Those are your own writings. Answer that one please.

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        • NETbilling
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2002
          • 8599

          #54
          Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
          Mithch, If what you say is true, and you would NEVER NEVER steal a customers email, then why is it important that you scrub your own signups. You state that in your email and I quote "We do all our own scrubbing". If you are being fair in your business then why should that give you any advantage? The scrubbing should be the same for your own paysites and the paysites for your netbiliing customers. Or, do you scrub differently for yourown sites than you do for those of your billing customers. Those are your own writings. Answer that one please.
          Sobe,

          Sorry for the delay.

          Here is yur answer to the question above. We provide all of our scrub filters up front to our merchants and they can set the thresholds themselves if they want to increase conversions while minimizing fraud. It is one of the great features of our system and the reason why so many webmasters see a 20% average increase in signups when coming from another processor. I have my scrubbing different for each of my sites, based on previous fruad in those sites and member loyalty. Niche sites typically have a lower rate of fraud then general sites. Our Netbilling cleints have all of the same tools that I use for my own sites... another way that my "webmaster experience" has benefited our clients.

          Does that answer your question?

          Mitch


          Mitch Farber
          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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          • stocktrader23
            Let's do some business.
            • Jan 2003
            • 18781

            #55
            What are netbillings fees for adult sites? Also, how do they differ from the other major processors? I don't see the name thrown around as much.


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            • Gateway69
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2002
              • 1510

              #56
              well.. life goes on..

              everyone does a bit of everything its just a matter of life and business. There is nothing wrong with that, it may chap your hide but you probably been in the industry long enough to realize that.
              Gateway - Tech Guru
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              • NETbilling
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2002
                • 8599

                #57
                Originally posted by Gateway69
                well.. life goes on..

                everyone does a bit of everything its just a matter of life and business. There is nothing wrong with that, it may chap your hide but you probably been in the industry long enough to realize that.
                For sure Gateway. Looking forward to seeing you in a few weeks.


                Mitch Farber
                CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                • Pornkings
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 5334

                  #58
                  Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
                  seems fine? The billing company should not be competing with its own customers. That is a confilict of interests
                  I agree completely..
                  Pornkings.com

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                  • NETbilling
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8599

                    #59
                    Originally posted by stocktrader23
                    What are netbillings fees for adult sites? Also, how do they differ from the other major processors? I don't see the name thrown around as much.
                    stocktrader23,

                    We charge only 1.5% and 15¢ per transaction + merchant account fees (typically 7-9% total for both). Our fees are the same for adult or mainstream, product sales or memberships. The difference with Netbilling compared to IPSPs is that our merchants use their own merchant account with our system. You get paid daily and have full control over all aspects as you wish. One misconception is thaqt people think that f they get a merchant account, they must handle their own customer service. This is not true. We handle it all, just as the IPSPs (third party processors) do.

                    We actually process for many of the large programs and many, many small ones as well. You can read the 4 page feature on us in the new issue of Klixxx magazine and ask questions about us on any of the boards. Although many of our merchants do not frequent GFY, but do frequent Netsurprise, Ynot, hahahahahahaha, Oprano etc...

                    Would you iike to demo our system? I think you would be very impressed.

                    Visit: netbilling.com

                    Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
                    Outside the US: (661)252-2456
                    Thank you, Mitch Farber
                    Last edited by NETbilling; 03-04-2003, 10:17 PM.


                    Mitch Farber
                    CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                    Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                    Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                    • stocktrader23
                      Let's do some business.
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 18781

                      #60
                      Originally posted by netbilling



                      Thank you, Mitch Farber
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                      Thanks for the quick response. Will definately look into it.


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                      "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                      • NETbilling
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 8599

                        #61
                        Originally posted by stocktrader23
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                        Thanks for the quick response. Will definately look into it.
                        Thank you Stocktrader. I look forward to hearing from you.



                        Mitch

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                        Pornkings,

                        We actually do traffic trades with several of our merchants and have helped many of them buid their businesses when they were just starting out by sending them some free traffic as well. It is not a conflict in our merchants eyes.

                        Mitch


                        Mitch Farber
                        CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                        Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                        Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                        • slavdogg
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3570

                          #62
                          i guess you dumbasses dont know who owns jettis ??


                          nothing wrong with billing CO running its own paysites.
                          As Simon said its all about trust, and in Netbillings case i've never done biz with them but over the years i've only heard good things about Mitch and his company


                          and btw many billing companies, CC and ACH run their own programs.
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                          • Kimmykim
                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 16015

                            #63
                            Don't get all touchy there Slav, the separation between Jettis and CQ is as strong as it is with any of their other clients. Kjell doesn't do CQ stuff that I know of and CQ people don't have access to anything Jettis that does not pertain to CQ.

                            And as we all know, Ken's too busy walking funny and being sick to do anything ;)

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                            • slavdogg
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 3570

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Kimmykim
                              Don't get all touchy there Slav, the separation between Jettis and CQ is as strong as it is with any of their other clients. Kjell doesn't do CQ stuff that I know of and CQ people don't have access to anything Jettis that does not pertain to CQ.

                              And as we all know, Ken's too busy walking funny and being sick to do anything ;)

                              Kimmy in no way did i mean that they're in each others biz or share info. I know for a fact CQ and jettis run very good and honest operations.
                              Adult Traffic for Sale

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                              • NETbilling
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 8599

                                #65
                                Originally posted by slavdogg
                                i guess you dumbasses dont know who owns jettis ??


                                nothing wrong with billing CO running its own paysites.
                                As Simon said its all about trust, and in Netbillings case i've never done biz with them but over the years i've only heard good things about Mitch and his company


                                and btw many billing companies, CC and ACH run their own programs.

                                slavdogg,

                                Thanks for the kind word. We have always done things up front and honest.
                                Jettis and Netbilling are not the only ones either that have deal with or run their own paysites. Nothing wrong with it at all as long as their is no conflict.

                                Mitch


                                Mitch Farber
                                CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                • Anthony_A
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 1219

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by drunkdollars
                                  Netbilling im my opinion is not gonna mail your members..

                                  What is the difference if a processor mailed your members to a sponsor program..

                                  Bottom line is trust your processor
                                  No, the Bottom Line is, TRUST NO ONE.
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                                  • SoBeGirl Video
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 2493

                                    #67
                                    With all due respect to Mitch at Netbilling he is a damn good guy. But the practice that these bililng companies all think is ok I think stinks.

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                                    • Thee Johnclave
                                      The Billz Collectaz
                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 632

                                      #68
                                      Just to clarify on Mitch's post (and Mitch I know no harm was intended). Jettis does not own any paysites. Jettis is privately held, by a number of owners, some of whom do own paysites. None of these shareholders, or those without paysite affiliation, are involved in the day to day operations of Jettis.

                                      Jettis is a one man operation...it's all Kjell. ;-)



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