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  • KRL
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    • Oct 2002
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    #1

    Turkey Fucks USA - No plans for another vote.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...turkey_us_iraq

    Payback's gonna be a bitch on this move by the Turks.
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  • Theo
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    • May 2001
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    #2
    well USA promised them money for their past operation and they never received a dime.

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    • KRL
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      #3
      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
      well USA promised them money for their past operation and they never received a dime.
      That's called "The American Way".
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      • Gman.357
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        • Oct 2002
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        #4
        Originally posted by KRL


        That's called "The American Way".
        Nah... it's done here all the time, and this board is world wide.


        Ouch.

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        • 12clicks
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          • Jan 2001
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          #5
          turkey fucked themselves.
          Fucking muslims think they can blackmail Bush. too funny.
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          • DavePlays
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            • Jan 2003
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            #6
            Originally posted by KRL
            http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...turkey_us_iraq

            Payback's gonna be a bitch on this move by the Turks.


            Isn't it true that they (Turkey) are voting again this Tuesday?
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            • Serge_Oprano
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              #7
              Originally posted by 12clicks
              turkey fucked themselves.
              Fucking muslims think they can blackmail Bush. too funny.
              I say we should arm kurds...fuck Turks

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              • Brujah
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                • Jan 2001
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                #8
                I heard they were voting again.

                Also that the American Media had been getting the story wrong and making Turkey look bad with inaccuracies. That the actual amount of money in form of a loan that they were promising was $4 billion ( not $30 billion ).

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                • KRL
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DavePlays




                  Isn't it true that they (Turkey) are voting again this Tuesday?
                  No they aren't gonna do that now.
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                  • Miss Novette
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #10
                    Seems odd that we would have to pay them in order to protect their interests. I know we are protecting our interests as well, but they are benefiting. Greed, plain greed.

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                    • Serge_Oprano
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Miss Novette
                      Seems odd that we would have to pay them in order to protect their interests. I know we are protecting our interests as well, but they are benefiting. Greed, plain greed.

                      I don't think so....

                      there are 2 factors which play role in Turkey at the moment:
                      1) it's a Moslem Country and USA did reneg on it's promise from prev Gulk War

                      2) Germany is making their dandiest to make sure that Turkey will never be the part of EU,
                      and either Turks decided to play Germany card or disapointed with West all together

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                      • JamesK
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                        #12
                        I'm turkish.

                        Fuck you.
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                        • Jakke PNG
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                          #13
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                          • JamesK
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by TeenGodFather
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                            • DavePlays
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by KRL


                              No they aren't gonna do that now.

                              Hadn't heard that...

                              I think they've had a plan in place just in case for a while now, so hopefully it isn't going to be too big a deal.

                              (One less listing in the US's check book.)
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                              • Raider Mort
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Wildcard
                                I'm turkish.

                                Fuck you.
                                And how would you have voted??

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                                • Martin
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                                  • Dec 2001
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                                  #17
                                  Karma is a bitch. Nobody trust the Americans any more.. They have fucked and back stabed to many times..

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                                  • DavePlays
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Martin
                                    Karma is a bitch. Nobody trust the Americans any more.. They have fucked and back stabed to many times..


                                    How many of the countries that owe the US billions and billions in loans or receive billions and billions in aid think they were stabbed in back by the US now?


                                    1441 was unanimous - that means 100% of the UN agreed with America - and 1441 was pretty clear in it's intention.


                                    The important countries still trust America.

                                    Some will put their own interests ahead of America - but that has little to do with trust.
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                                    • nap
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                                      #19
                                      This is just another sign that Bush is way in over his head.

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                                      • nemesis
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Martin
                                        Karma is a bitch. Nobody trust the Americans any more.. They have fucked and back stabed to many times..

                                        Exactly. In the first war Usa said all of the economical loses of Turkey will be compansated. It is estimated that Turkey lost around 100 Billion. Usa only paid couple million $$$. They have estimated that Turkey will lose around 180 billion in this war. Compare the money Usa will make in this war to the money Turkey will lose... I don't even understand why politicians are even voting for this.
                                        Last edited by nemesis; 03-02-2003, 12:24 PM.

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                                        • Ace-Ace
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by nap
                                          This is just another sign that Bush is way in over his head.
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                                          • DavePlays
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by nemesis



                                            Compare the money Usa will make in this war to the money Turkey will lose...


                                            The money the US will MAKE?


                                            Man are you out of touch with reality.

                                            We could buy every drop of their oil for less than this war will cost.
                                            It's not about oil and it REALLY isn't about the US making money.

                                            You really didn't think about that before you said it did you?
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                                            • nemesis
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DavePlays




                                              The money the US will MAKE?


                                              Man are you out of touch with reality.

                                              We could buy every drop of their oil for less than this war will cost.
                                              It's not about oil and it REALLY isn't about the US making money.

                                              You really didn't think about that before you said it did you?

                                              112 billion barrels of oil X 18 per barrel = 20.160.00.000.000

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                                              • Mr.Fiction
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by nap
                                                This is just another sign that Bush is way in over his head.
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                                                • DavePlays
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by nemesis


                                                  112 billion barrels of oil X 18 per barrel = 20.160.00.000.000



                                                  Do you think we've ran out of the oil we took from Iraq last time?

                                                  OK then -

                                                  you may go stand in line with the others who think this is all about oil.....


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                                                  • FadeEP
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                                                    #26
                                                    People don't want war..

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                                                    • DavePlays
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by FadeEP
                                                      People don't want war..


                                                      Yeah...

                                                      but through out history people many times have decided it was far better than the alternative.
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                                                      • KRL
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by nemesis



                                                        112 billion barrels of oil X 18 per barrel = 20.160.00.000.000
                                                        Its more like 300 Billion Barrels x $35 = 10.5 Trillian

                                                        Plus Iraq has the lowest recovery costs of any producing country so the profit margin is way fatter.

                                                        Plus don't forget the US Taxpayers foot the bill. The Oil Companies pillage the profits. Nice having your own private army and fleet of aircraft carriers to do your land acquisition work for you at no cost.
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                                                        • DavePlays
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KRL


                                                          Its more like 300 Billion Barrels x $35 = 10.5 Trillian

                                                          Plus Iraq has the lowest recovery costs of any producing country so the profit margin is way fatter.

                                                          Plus don't forget the US Taxpayers foot the bill. The Oil Companies pillage the profits. Nice having your own private army and fleet of aircraft carriers to do your land acquisition work for you at no cost.

                                                          Damn right it is -
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                                                          • unconnected
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                                                            #30
                                                            I'm turkish.

                                                            Fuck you.
                                                            I do a lot of business out of turkey, so that kind of makes me turkish, So I am in the same boat here..
                                                            I send a big out to those dissing turkey
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                                                            • 12clicks
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                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              Israel still holds the distinction of being the only country we've ever given bilions to who still likes us.

                                                              oh, and turkey lost 100 billion? when since the dark ages?
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                                                              • UnseenWorld
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                                                                #32
                                                                I wonder if all those restaurants which are no longer serving "french" fries will stop serving "Turkey" sandwiches now?
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                                                                • KRL
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                  Israel still holds the distinction of being the only country we've ever given bilions to who still likes us.

                                                                  oh, and turkey lost 100 billion? when since the dark ages?
                                                                  With all the indirect benefits our aid to Israel is now at $8 Billion per year. I'd like ya too for $20 Million dollar daily handout.
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                                                                  • Sly_RJ
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I had a turkey sandwich for lunch today. It was great. Can't beat fresh deli meat.
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                                                                    • benthompson
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I say we should arm kurds...fuck Turks
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                                                                      noboby wants this war. So I support Turkey on their decision.

                                                                      By the way, I agree with Wildcard ..

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                                                                      • quiet
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        about time the turkeys finally fought back against their oppressors.
                                                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                        • Sly_RJ
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                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • bhutocracy
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by UnseenWorld
                                                                            I wonder if all those restaurants which are no longer serving "french" fries will stop serving "Turkey" sandwiches now?
                                                                            LOL..

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                                                                            • Gimmy
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Turkey finally is revealing its true colors

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                                                                              • PornoDoggy
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                There's something about this that bugs me. I'm not one of the people who thinks that other countries have to do whatever the U.S. tells them to do, but this smells bad - almost as if it was designed to make Bush look bad.

                                                                                Anyone who knows my opinion of Bush knows I don't think he needs any help to look bad. Still, this one kind of stinks.

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                                                                                • DavePlays
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by PornoDoggy
                                                                                  There's something about this that bugs me. I'm not one of the people who thinks that other countries have to do whatever the U.S. tells them to do, but this smells bad - almost as if it was designed to make Bush look bad.

                                                                                  Anyone who knows my opinion of Bush knows I don't think he needs any help to look bad. Still, this one kind of stinks.

                                                                                  I'm courious about what changed or happened between the time I went to bed last night when they said Turkey was going to vote again Tuestday, and this morning when I heard they weren't.

                                                                                  I haven't payed much attention to the news all day so maybe I missed something?
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                                                                                  • Doo Wah Ditty
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Turkey's damage is over $160billion since 1991, Turkey lost this money with stopping trade with iraq. US promised to help and never did it.. now Bush knocking Turks door and requesting for help... if you were instead of Turks what would you do?
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                                                                                    • nemesis
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DavePlays



                                                                                      I'm courious about what changed or happened between the time I went to bed last night when they said Turkey was going to vote again Tuestday, and this morning when I heard they weren't.

                                                                                      I haven't payed much attention to the news all day so maybe I missed something?
                                                                                      It is not for sure that there won't be a second voting. The problem is, there will be an general election in one city of Turkey, because something was messed up at the previous election , and the government decided to do the election again (kind of like the shit happened in Florida). So, they are really busy and decided not to talk about the voting until the election in that city takes place. They will decide what to do after the election.

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                                                                                      • ChrisH
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...turkey_us_iraq

                                                                                        Payback's gonna be a bitch on this move by the Turks.
                                                                                        It started today. There stock market tanked almost 13% while there currency has lost 5% of it's value. I guess there markets were counting on those billions to prop them up. LOL
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                                                                                        • DavePlays
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ChrisH


                                                                                          It started today. There stock market tanked almost 13% while there currency has lost 5% of it's value. I guess there markets were counting on those billions to prop them up. LOL

                                                                                          From what I've heard this morning - It looks like is a "fair" chance there will be a second vote. Flexing their muscles a little is one thing, but I just can't imagine them being total fools when it gets down to it.
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                                                                                          • Theo
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Bush has busted our balls with this war, next week he'll ask help from other planets to fight Iraq.

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                                                                                            • 12clicks
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Doo Wah Ditty
                                                                                              Turkey's damage is over $160billion since 1991, Turkey lost this money with stopping trade with iraq.
                                                                                              what a dopey statement to believe.
                                                                                              what exactly did turkey sell to iraq that gave them a 16 billion a yr profit? dirt? opium? what?
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                                                                                              • Brujah
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Did you hear anything about finding over 150 tonnes of anthrax and nerve gas in Iraq that had been unreported ?

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                                                                                                • strainer
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Turkey is a good friend of the U.S. Its the only Moslem country that is a member of NATO and more or less democratic.

                                                                                                  They have their own internal problems. Christ, most of the European population opposes the war, is it any surprise that a border moslem country - has a population that will vote the fucks all out of office if they approve the deal?

                                                                                                  Its no big deal. The invasion will go on through Kuwait as planned, and Turkey will quietly help in ways that don't make it into the NY Times.

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                                                                                                  • Unfed
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by strainer
                                                                                                    and Turkey will quietly help in ways that don't make it into the NY Times.
                                                                                                    that's what i was thinking.....
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