I am tired of the idiots that go to conventions

Cant wait to see what happens in Vegas

Nuff said! Lensman... please lock this thread now!

P.S. Everyone was a gent... if I woulda drank, I woulda got in a fight with at least 5 people. You all were virgin angels!

soon? i've been doing that at tgp VIP party for several years now

it's not fuking often, and the way you go off on some of the people here who I PROUDLY call my friends for no real reason if i ever do meet you i'll probally bitch slap you upside of the head.

You know I'm the last one to talk shit behind anyones back.
infact as I recall, I called you after I heard some rumors that was being said about pornkings from you.
I called you and asked you straight up.
I thought it was squashed till I saw you making post and bashing me on other threads for no reason at all. thats when i decided to defend myself on a public forum.

The only reason I was upset to begin with was the way you walked out without giving any notice at all. and then went to work for another company. so don't talk to me about being an adult. Yes your right I was upset and called the other company to see what was going on since you just walked out without giving any reason at all.
they thought you gave us notice. I wasn't upset about you leaving it was how it was done.

As you can see I go straight to the source no reason for me to talk shit behind anyones back.

I don't understand where you get off saying I have a big ego when you have never met me nor hung out with me. Infact I told you many times to come to LA so we could hang out etc when you worked for Pornkings.

To this day I have never talked shit about anyone on the boards or behind someones back unless it was defending Pornkings or myself. If you new my history you would understand this.

I just didn't understand why you would go out of your way to bash me on other threads for no reason at all. and if you heard something you could have called me like I called you.

I'm over it.

call me anytime and lets squash it or do lunch in vegas on your dime, I am not one to hold grudges.

Happy Holidays

My goodness. How everything changes when the shoe is on the other foot.

The list of utter hypocrites in this thread is hilarious.

ive seen and heard worse shit go on at a shriners convention or for that matter any other type of CORP. convention.

if you didnt have these fuckups there wouldnt be anything to yenta about.

but

When people damage public property, thats unacceptable and definitly punishible.

Standing naked mid-day pissing in a pool isnt

but

piss an elevator or hotel lobby definitly crosses the line though.


these 3 happened at a shriners convention.

The problem here is professionalism. I have been at parties with people in this biz and 90% of us be totally gone. Occasionally someone would say something stupid or I would pour a glass of G. Goose on my dickies, but it was all good. The people I was partying were all professional adults, even when we cut loose. These guys that are going to far, are not professionals, they are faking it during the day and when they get drunk are dropping there masks. see them as the kids they are.

You have to keep in mind that "Perception is Reality" in this business, If you fuck up just one time around the wrong people, then your hurting. Have fun but always keep your mind on the goal at these parties, make friends, make money. I always liked to act a little more drunk than I was, People drop games and it softens them up when they think your toasted.

hahaha! I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this.

What goes around comes around.

I'm still trying to sift through this thread (no cliff notes it appears), but as I read I think more and more about three things..

First.. it sounds more like a group of unruly teens away from mom and dad for their first trip away from home with nothing more on their minds than "PARTY" instead of a group of business aquaintances looking to get together, learn from each other and network.

Second..if these people are like this at a meeting of their piers how do they handle their day to day business and are they worse at home and only presented their 'best behavior"?

Third... how many show up purely because all that is shown of past conventions is parties and nekkid women?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

I see a lot of people with sin casting stones. True, there were some pranks that went a little overboard at this show, but I have seen FAR worse at other shows from people either posting here, people who work with people posting here, or people who watched and laughed.

I agree, things got a little out of hand, but I heard rumors that I know were not true because I was with the people that were being talked about.

As for the shit with Kayla being woken up and having to deal with the people in the lobby: Several cabs of webmasters had just arrived after partying on Sunset at the Rainbow. Many of these webmasters were sober. We had been outside for no more than 5 minutes when we were ordered inside. Many of us ended up in my room and not more than 15 minutes later security showed up and wanted to know who was causing the noise. There were maybe 15 webmasters in the room and barely any alcohol. There were no drunken idiots, just a lot of webmasters trying to talk to each other. Luckily we didn't get ejected because we used the "don't look in the bedroom because we have naked girls in there" line. After the rent-a-jerk with the inflated ego left most of the people left to other rooms and we didn't have a problem again (even though that troublemaker ArronM showed up! ). When all this happened it was barely 3AM on a Friday night. I guess all of us webmasters should have been in bed by then like good little pornographers should be.

This thread is a keeper!!!

Classic!!

Asking to have threads locked?

Who the hell do you think you are...AaronM?

The next thing you know, you will be having threads deleted just to start more drama. Get your own style bro...This one is already taken. A copy is never as good as the original anyway.

Cliff Notes:

It sounds like someone bit off more than they could handle for the show... Someone did something to damage the hotel, and someone else got blamed for it.

It also sounds like someone number one, is blowing this whole thing way out of proportion to get attention.

Creative Spam? Maybe. Entertaining... Yes. Hypocrytical... Yes.

And "Someone number one" is not the thread starter.

I do agree that there should be a blacklist of some sort, but, be sure that the members of that list are not unjustly put on it. Make sure there is rock solid proof and wittnesses of the events that they are blacklisted for.

Conclusion:

We are all dirty pornographers, and rebels to begin with. Things happen at shows. It does not make them right, but it does not make YOU or I, the judge, jury and executioner when things do get out of hand. It is just part of the business. As Zebra said, "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.". Simple as that.

For every one of you pointing a finger, I can name at least one time where you were out of hand, or have at minimum heard stories about it.... true or not. I take it all with a grain of salt. Some people are known as "trouble makers" and ALWAYS get blamed for things they don't do. Yet, those same people who get blamed, ALWAYS admit when they DO do things. Others never get blamed for things they do.

So, what does this tell us? It says a few things that we should all think about. No matter what you think you know... Unless you were there and wittnessed it with your own eyes... Shut the fuck up, because you know shit. This includes everyone, from newbie to legend. Unless it's a planned business strategy... mind your own business, and make new business.

We are all in this together, and need to pull together as an industry, instead of canabalizing our own.

Keep the peace people.