How many months does Epoch hold your reserves?

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  • brocklander
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 163

    #1

    How many months does Epoch hold your reserves?

    just curious
  • Mr Pheer
    So Fucking Banned
    • Dec 2002
    • 22082

    #2


    YEARS!!!

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    • brocklander
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 163

      #3
      Originally posted by MrPheer


      YEARS!!!
      that's what I heard...

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      • brocklander
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2002
        • 163

        #4
        Bueller....

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        • brocklander
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 163

          #5
          No one here uses them?

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          • Adult Site Traffic
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2003
            • 5093

            #6
            Originally posted by MrPheer
            YEARS!!!
            Yea, probably. 3rd party sucks. Get your own merchant account and there's no such thing as reserve. Of course, that does come with more interaction and management and it's not for everyone.

            It works for me.


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            • MattO
              The O is for Oohhh
              • Feb 2003
              • 10861

              #7
              Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


              Yea, probably. 3rd party sucks. Get your own merchant account and there's no such thing as reserve. Of course, that does come with more interaction and management and it's not for everyone.

              It works for me.


              Yes, I reccomend having your own merchant account

              *spam
              Our acconts have a 10% 6 month rolling reserve.
              What's nice is the 2.5% chargeback allowance.
              Gotta incorporate in the EU for us, but we help set it all up.
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              • wimpy
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2003
                • 607

                #8
                Once they have your money they don't part with it, even if your processing volume goes down.

                They're currently holding reserves of 4 times my monthly volume. I've asked for a reduction and they refused, citing the contract which says they can hold your reserves until "18 months after your last transaction."

                Considering that you have endless recurring even if you stop processing new sales, they can use the contract to keep your money forever.

                There is nothing risky about my account. It has been YEARS since I did the volume they are reserving funds for. My chargebacks have always been under 1% since I started processing with Epoch in 98. I always used Epoch to bill new products (although only as gateway lately) and I used to recommend them to others. If they'll hold my reserves, they'll hold yours.

                Epoch keeps your reserves even after your processing volume goes down, and that is the reason I no longer recommend Epoch.

                Epoch also reserves more in the first place. Suppose you do $1,000 per week. CCBill would reserve 5% of your last 26 checks, or $1,300. Epoch would reserve a month's worth of processing, or $4,300. That's a big difference.
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                • brocklander
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 163

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wimpy
                  Once they have your money they don't part with it, even if your processing volume goes down.

                  They're currently holding reserves of 4 times my monthly volume. I've asked for a reduction and they refused, citing the contract which says they can hold your reserves until "18 months after your last transaction."

                  Considering that you have endless recurring even if you stop processing new sales, they can use the contract to keep your money forever.

                  There is nothing risky about my account. It has been YEARS since I did the volume they are reserving funds for. My chargebacks have always been under 1% since I started processing with Epoch in 98. I always used Epoch to bill new products (although only as gateway lately) and I used to recommend them to others. If they'll hold my reserves, they'll hold yours.

                  Epoch keeps your reserves even after your processing volume goes down, and that is the reason I no longer recommend Epoch.

                  Epoch also reserves more in the first place. Suppose you do $1,000 per week. CCBill would reserve 5% of your last 26 checks, or $1,300. Epoch would reserve a month's worth of processing, or $4,300. That's a big difference.

                  Hey Wimpy,

                  I appreciate the candid feedback. I took one look at their contract and spit my coffee out all over the screen. How anyone could agree to those terms is beyond me...

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                  • stocktrader23
                    Let's do some business.
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 18781

                    #10
                    WTF?


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