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  • wonton
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    • Apr 2002
    • 802

    #1

    VISA Goes Full Force Against High Risk!!

    This is sort of old news but now the mainstream media is picking up on Visa's stance. Visa can never back down now on high risk and if anything they will get harsher and harsher! Look out!!

    ABC News: Visa Draws Hard Line


    First few paragraphs:


    ......But now, Visa has taken an unpublicized stance on where it doesn't want to be: on Internet sites selling child pornography and other dhahahahations of sexually deviant behavior.
    Over the past year, Visa has set up a system to identify purveyors who use Visa to sell illegal pornography. This means the card issuer is reporting sites with illegal photos and videos to the global police forces responsible for enforcing child-porn laws.

    Visa is also requiring the 7,000 U.S. financial institutions that are members of the Visa association to register "high-risk merchants" who process adult content and use the Visa card. If the institutions don't comply, they risk losing their Visa relationship ? a threat already facing a Russian bank......
  • picindex
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 1038

    #2
    that is great news!

    to Visa for this one....
    Good Content:

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    • European Lee
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 7133

      #3
      Indeed thats fantastic news epecially the bit about the 'deviant behavior' part this means that Visa realizes things such as CP and beastiality are not fetishes per say. In other words, things that ARE predominent in the fetish market, watersports, BDSM etc shouldnt have any problems.

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      • [Labret]
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        • May 2001
        • 10945

        #4
        Shut up dumbass

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        • chupacabra
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          • Sep 2002
          • 3626

          #5
          In other words, things that ARE predominent in the fetish market, watersports, BDSM etc shouldnt have any problems.
          i'm not sure i agree w/ you here that this is such good news really, while i'm all for VISA coming down like a hammer on the purveyors of CP, i don't know if VISA themselves deciding what constitutes deviant behavior is really that great an idea... w/ the current administration, eating freshly-fucked ass (felching) could become so-called *deviant* behavior, among many other things that a lot of people here push to make their money, and that just ain't good for anyone..!
          ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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          • LunaC
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            • Oct 2002
            • 148

            #6
            Originally posted by European Lee
            Indeed thats fantastic news epecially the bit about the 'deviant behavior' part this means that Visa realizes things such as CP and beastiality are not fetishes per say. In other words, things that ARE predominent in the fetish market, watersports, BDSM etc shouldnt have any problems.
            I wish I could agree with your interpretation, but I can't. It specifically says "child pornography and other deviant behavior" not "child porn and beastiality" or "child porn and other illegal behaviors"

            So what it means is that they are not just going after child porn but anything else they consider "deviant" which could be anything. Since I sell mostly BDSM stuff, this makes me very nervous.

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            • wonton
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              • Apr 2002
              • 802

              #7
              Originally posted by chupacabra


              i'm not sure i agree w/ you here that this is such good news really, while i'm all for VISA coming down like a hammer on the purveyors of CP, i don't know if VISA themselves deciding what constitutes deviant behavior is really that great an idea... w/ the current administration, eating freshly-fucked ass (felching) could become so-called *deviant* behavior, among many other things that a lot of people here push to make their money, and that just ain't good for anyone..!
              I agree. Whenever a private company, with close associations to government and the current administration, starts to dictate content then that is bad news. Of course everyone here is in favor of eliminating child porn (I hope!) but there is a ton of grey-area content that could be considered illegal in many states (like Oklahoma). Will Visa choose the lowest common demoninator when making their decisions? Will they go by more liberal California law? Will they randomly pick and choose according to the whims of whoever is on their legal staff at that time? Will they listen to (ugh!) politicians when forming their policies?

              Only time will tell....

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              • Gutterboy
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 4751

                #8
                Its great news until you actually put some thought into the matter and realize how flexible the definition of "illegal pornography" is in the United States.

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                • Kimmykim
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                  • Jun 2001
                  • 16015

                  #9
                  What sites do you run again wonton?

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                  • Mr.Fiction
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                    • Feb 2002
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                    #10
                    Illegal is fine, but "deviant " means the same as "sex" to people like John A*s*h*c*r*o*f*t.
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                    • FATPad
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                      • Oct 2001
                      • 6693

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wonton


                      I agree. Whenever a private company, with close associations to government and the current administration, starts to dictate content then that is bad news. Of course everyone here is in favor of eliminating child porn (I hope!) but there is a ton of grey-area content that could be considered illegal in many states (like Oklahoma). Will Visa choose the lowest common demoninator when making their decisions? Will they go by more liberal California law? Will they randomly pick and choose according to the whims of whoever is on their legal staff at that time? Will they listen to (ugh!) politicians when forming their policies?

                      Only time will tell....
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                      • European Lee
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 7133

                        #12
                        Deviant, Sex and, Fetish are three comletely different words with completely different meanings.

                        Deviant AND Fetish are NOT the same thing.

                        A sexual Deviant is not the same as a Sexual Fetish.

                        Go look at a dictionary theres a handy one at http://www.dictionary.com if you dont own one

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                        • [Labret]
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                          • May 2001
                          • 10945

                          #13
                          Originally posted by European Lee


                          A sexual Deviant is not the same as a Sexual Fetish.

                          Tell Ashcr0ft that your poop eating is a fetish and is not deviant behavior. That just because you like to be ass fisted and pissed on that you are a normal Joe and should be able to teach his children. The man covers statue titties and is against dancing. Pull your head out.

                          Try and convince him that this is a fetish and not deviant.

                          Last edited by [Labret]; 02-25-2003, 12:43 PM.

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                          • European Lee
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                            • Dec 2002
                            • 7133

                            #14
                            Originally posted by [Labret]


                            Tell Ashcr0ft that your poop eating is a fetish and is not deviant behavior. That just because you like to be ass fisted and pissed on that you are a normal Joe and should be able to teach his children.

                            Try and convince him that this is a fetish and not deviant.

                            Damn dude, you really should go see a doctor about those hemmoroids!

                            Regards,

                            Lee
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                            • polish_aristocrat
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 40377

                              #15
                              Originally posted by [Labret]

                              .

                              LOL
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                              • The Porn Dude
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 369

                                #16
                                No dude you need to see a doctor and have him pull that diet coke bottle out of your ass.

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                                • wonton
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                                  • Apr 2002
                                  • 802

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                  What sites do you run again wonton?
                                  Hee. Hee. You'll have to find it. If you do, and I deem you worthy, you get to join my affiliate program. If you hotlink or steal my graphics, I hack your site in return.

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                                  • Elephant_Gut
                                    Registered User
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 70

                                    #18
                                    I think that coke bottle thing is exactly the type of shit (pun intended) taht Visa will go after!

                                    I agree. A private company telling us what content to put up is bullshit. They are using the whole child porn thing the way politicians use it - to cover their real intentions.

                                    We don't need no stinking morality police for porn.
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                                    • Tipsy
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                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 6989

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                      Deviant, Sex and, Fetish are three comletely different words with completely different meanings.

                                      Deviant AND Fetish are NOT the same thing.

                                      A sexual Deviant is not the same as a Sexual Fetish.

                                      Go look at a dictionary theres a handy one at http://www.dictionary.com if you dont own one

                                      Regards,

                                      Lee
                                      You haven't a clue have you? This is deviant according to VISA and you can bet they wont be looking into a dictionary to make sure they agree with any definition in there. If you really can't see why any policy like that is probably not a good thing then you're probably in the wrong business.
                                      Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                      • European Lee
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                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 7133

                                        #20
                                        Over the past year, Visa has set up a system to identify purveyors who use Visa to sell illegal pornography
                                        Err, what the fuck are you talking about?

                                        Since when has anything Fetish been Deviant?

                                        Deviant sexual practices are generally (not always) illegal in nature thats what this Visa thing is about.

                                        Get your head outta your ass and actually read the whole article.

                                        Like it or not this IS good news.

                                        Regards,

                                        Lee
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                                        • Kimmykim
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                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 16015

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by wonton


                                          Hee. Hee. You'll have to find it. If you do, and I deem you worthy, you get to join my affiliate program. If you hotlink or steal my graphics, I hack your site in return.

                                          You dont want to know how Backov deals with the people that fuck with us. He's nowhere near nice as I am.

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                                          • horns
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 238

                                            #22
                                            Gotta agree with Tipsy and wonton and Gutetrboy here.

                                            Lee - We all want CP gone, but "deviant" is way too broad for my liking. Sex is considered deviant to some. Hell, in Oklahoma they pulled Cosmo magazines out of the grocery stores because they were afraid kids would see them and DEVELOP deviant behaviours . . . like sex

                                            "Illegal" pornography? There are many people in this country that think that ALL pornography is, or at least should be, illegal.

                                            KK- since when have you been nice???

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                                            • J-Reel
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                                              • Feb 2002
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                                              #23
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