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  • CDSmith
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    • May 2001
    • 51460
    #1

    STOP THE PRESSES: 12clicks to pose nude??

    Klixxx magazine article: http://www.klixxx.com/stories/10q/12clicks.html

    Artistic only. I'm sure that includes bukakke.




    From the article:

    <b>Q: <i>What do you think about today's newbies - better or worse than a few years ago?</i></b>

    "I'm afraid they are much worse. There are too many guys in this business that think they are experts after 2 months of gallery building. They *know* sponsor "X" who's been here since '96 shaves sign-ups and they *know* it's not possible to do x y and z. This is the reason so many of the old timers (myself included) have gone quiet on the boards. I'm done wasting my time defending the ideas of my multi-million dollar business, against the attack of some 19 year-old, making beer money out of his dorm room closet. Today's newbies are more interested in the show than the business."




    You damn newbies are gonna have to smarten UP.

    Or else.
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    • drunkmonkey
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        • CDSmith
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          #3
          Originally posted by drunkmonkey
          I know your reading skills. There is no way you could have read that entire article this fast.
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            • jact
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              • Sep 2002
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              #4
              Interesting read........
              Free agent

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                • MonkeyMan
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1026
                  #5
                  Originally posted by CDSmith
                  From the article:

                  <b>Q: <i>What do you think about today's newbies - better or worse than a few years ago?</i></b>

                  "I'm afraid they are much worse. There are too many guys in this business that think they are experts after 2 months of gallery building. They *know* sponsor "X" who's been here since '96 shaves sign-ups and they *know* it's not possible to do x y and z. This is the reason so many of the old timers (myself included) have gone quiet on the boards. I'm done wasting my time defending the ideas of my multi-million dollar business, against the attack of some 19 year-old, making beer money out of his dorm room closet. Today's newbies are more interested in the show than the business."
                  What about a 19 year old with a gun to his face.


                  Concieted prick.

                  Old farts who think they are god of the net just becasue they got in the game early are far more annoying.

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                    • PerfectionGirls
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                      • Oct 2002
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                      #6
                      Good article
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                        • drunkmonkey
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                          • Feb 2002
                          • 799
                          #7
                          true. I am in a smiley posting mood. I will read after another 6 pack.

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                            • wethoney
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                              • Sep 2002
                              • 1032
                              #8
                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                              Klixxx magazine article: http://www.klixxx.com/stories/10q/12clicks.html

                              Artistic only. I'm sure that includes bukakke.




                              From the article:

                              <b>Q: <i>What do you think about today's newbies - better or worse than a few years ago?</i></b>

                              "I'm afraid they are much worse. There are too many guys in this business that think they are experts after 2 months of gallery building. They *know* sponsor "X" who's been here since '96 shaves sign-ups and they *know* it's not possible to do x y and z. This is the reason so many of the old timers (myself included) have gone quiet on the boards. I'm done wasting my time defending the ideas of my multi-million dollar business, against the attack of some 19 year-old, making beer money out of his dorm room closet. Today's newbies are more interested in the show than the business."




                              You damn newbies are gonna have to smarten UP.

                              Or else.

                              Quit listening to the boyscouts and start listening to the eagle scouts.

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                                • CDSmith
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                                  • May 2001
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by wethoney
                                  Quit listening to the boyscouts and start listening to the eagle scouts.
                                  Are you an eagle scout? If you are, I'm listening.
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                                    • CDSmith
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                                      #10
                                      Q: <i>Which do you prefer to work with - adult webmasters or mainstream webmasters?</i>

                                      12clicks: "Adult of course - they are much more "savvy" and also know that I am, as well."



                                      So true. I always said..... that 12clucks is one smart fucker. I'm pretty sure he got his old avatar saying "<i>Smarter than God</i>" from me. I'm sure of it.
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                                        • CDSmith
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by drunkmonkey
                                          true. I am in a smiley posting mood. I will read after another 6 pack.
                                          It's been 3 hours, ain't you finished that measly 6pack yet?
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                                            • 12clicks
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                                              • Jan 2001
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                              What about a 19 year old with a gun to his face.
                                              kinda proves my point. no?
                                              who are these children with their gun talk and where do they come from?

                                              Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                              Concieted prick.
                                              From day one.

                                              Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                              Old farts who think they are god of the net just becasue they got in the game early are far more annoying.
                                              And kids who think our success came from just getting in the game early shall always be clueless.
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                • CDSmith
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                                                  • May 2001
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                  What about a 19 year old with a gun to his face.


                                                  Concieted prick.

                                                  Old farts who think they are god of the net just becasue they got in the game early are far more annoying.
                                                  Wait...are you calling 12clicks a conceited prick, or me??


                                                  haha


                                                  When you sign the paycheques of other people, you have a certain right to show off some pride. You've earned the right to talk as if you know something.


                                                  And sorry, I have no clue what you're referring to by the "gun to his face" question. Come down off your poprocks n pepsi high and explain please.
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                                                    • kath
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                                                      • Feb 2003
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                      Good article
                                                      Thanks - glad you liked it!

                                                      We're looking for recommendations for future community profiles. If there's someone you've always wanted to read an interview about, drop us a note. We're all sick of reading the same interviews over and over - Klixxx.com is looking to do something totally NEW!

                                                      Klixxx.com - Get more from YOUR industry magazine!

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                                                        • CDSmith
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by kath
                                                          If there's someone you've always wanted to read an interview about, drop us a note.
                                                          I'm hearing good things about Marty.

                                                          http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...postid=1388124
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                                                            • Joe Sixpack
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                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                              kinda proves my point. no?
                                                              who are these children with their gun talk and where do they come from?
                                                              Your gun culture moron!

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                                                                • CDSmith
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
                                                                  Your gun culture moron!
                                                                  Been swimmin naked in the toxic billabong again I see.
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                                                                    • Rich
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                                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks


                                                                      And kids who think our success came from just getting in the game early shall always be clueless.
                                                                      Very true, there were lots of webmasters who were around in '95 and DIDN'T make money.

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                                                                        • Joe Sixpack
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                                                                          • Jul 2002
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                          Been swimmin naked in the toxic billabong again I see.
                                                                          It just really surprises me how people can't make the connection between a gun culture and gun violence.

                                                                          0.28 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in Australia in 1998.

                                                                          4.00 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in USA in 1998.

                                                                          Only a moron wouldn't be able to put two and two togther with those statistics.

                                                                          http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor...ries/guns.html

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                                                                            • Gman.357
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by MonkeyMan

                                                                              Old farts who think they are god of the net just becasue they got in the game early are far more annoying.
                                                                              Not just because he got in early. Because he's making millions in this game.

                                                                              Are you?

                                                                              Ouch.

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                                                                                • Gman.357
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


                                                                                  It just really surprises me how people can't make the connection between a gun culture and gun violence.

                                                                                  0.28 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in Australia in 1998.

                                                                                  4.00 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in USA in 1998.

                                                                                  Only a moron wouldn't be able to put two and two togther with those statistics.

                                                                                  http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor...ries/guns.html
                                                                                  Damn right we have a gun culture. And I'm proud of it!!

                                                                                  I'll shoot any man who tries to take my right to bear arms away from me. You guys are nuts for letting your gov. bend you over like that.

                                                                                  Ouch.

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                                                                                    • Joe Sixpack
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                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 3793
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Gman.357


                                                                                      Damn right we have a gun culture. And I'm proud of it!!

                                                                                      I'll shoot any man who tries to take my right to bear arms away from me. You guys are nuts for letting your gov. bend you over like that.
                                                                                      You enjoy your drive-by's, mass murders and family massacres.

                                                                                      We'll pass thanks.

                                                                                      We had a big massacre and decided one was enough.

                                                                                      Civilians don't need guns here unless they are farmers.
                                                                                      Last edited by Joe Sixpack; 02-19-2003, 12:11 AM.

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                                                                                        • Gman.357
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Joe Sixpack



                                                                                          0.28 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in Australia in 1998.

                                                                                          4.00 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in USA in 1998.
                                                                                          Sometimes the price of freedom does not come without it's vices.

                                                                                          That's really not a lot of firearms related homicides compared to all the people who own guns (legally and illegally) in this country. If we were the kind of radical idiots you make us out to be, I'd expect those figures to be much higher.

                                                                                          People will find a way to kill other people with or without guns.

                                                                                          Ouch.

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                                                                                            • Gman.357
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


                                                                                              We had a big massacre and decided one was enough.

                                                                                              Civilians don't need guns here unless they are farmers.
                                                                                              You didn't decide anything. You let your government do it for you.

                                                                                              I saw a show that portrayed Australians as not being very happy about the confiscation of their weapons. Or was that show misleading?

                                                                                              Ouch.

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                                                                                                • Joe Sixpack
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                  • 3793
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Gman.357


                                                                                                  You didn't decide anything. You let your government do it for you.

                                                                                                  I saw a show that portrayed Australians as not being very happy about the confiscation of their weapons. Or was that show misleading?
                                                                                                  That was the rednecks... what redneck likes having his gun taken?

                                                                                                  Just a couple of points though:

                                                                                                  1. The guns were BOUGHT back for a good price.
                                                                                                  2. We've never really had guns anyway, at least not in the cities. We don't need them.

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                                                                                                    • MetaMan
                                                                                                      I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                      • 28682
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


                                                                                                      It just really surprises me how people can't make the connection between a gun culture and gun violence.

                                                                                                      0.28 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in Australia in 1998.

                                                                                                      4.00 firearms-related homicides for every 100,000 people in USA in 1998.

                                                                                                      Only a moron wouldn't be able to put two and two togther with those statistics.

                                                                                                      http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor...ries/guns.html
                                                                                                      guns are for pussies!

                                                                                                      the new thing is electric tasers or bear mace!

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                                                                                                        • 12clicks
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          CD, I always knew you were gay!

                                                                                                          you fixated on the last line in the page.
                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                            • CDSmith
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Joe ol boy, you said yourself you have a whopping 19 million people in your "mostly outback" island continent. Canada hasn't got much more, at around 31 million, but we still have crime. You saying Australia doesn't have crime? Your founding colonists were almost ALL criminals.

                                                                                                              Yes, let's disarm our civilians. Great idea. The criminals, who will buy guns illegally, can then rape us at will.


                                                                                                              Taking shots at the USA for their high-profile crime rate is useless... other countries of similar population size have high crime rates too. You think Russia doesn't have a problem with crime? Think again. But taking away the civilian's right to bear arms isn't the way to go, all that does is render the population defenseless, and that is a notion best adopted by morons.









                                                                                                              12clicks --- I have a knack for getting to the meat of the matter.
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                                                                                                                • traffictrader
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  well, i don't know 12clicks personally, but I'm sure he is a good business man. Too bad he comes off as a cynical depressed asshole on the forums and doesn't even realize it =/

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                                                                                                                    • CDSmith
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by traffictrader
                                                                                                                      well, i don't know 12clicks personally, but I'm sure he is a good business man. Too bad he comes off as a cynical depressed asshole on the forums and doesn't even realize it =/
                                                                                                                      Cynical? Depressed? You're going to have to show me the posts you read, because I don't see it. I can see where people might find him opinionated, but that's 12clicks, he's accomplished a fair bit more than most so maybe his opinion is worth reading.


                                                                                                                      People take the board personas of others a bit too seriously I think. In the private chats I've had with 12clicks I've found him to be a man that knows a lot, yet knows when to ask questions and when to listen. To me that is the mark of a wise man who possesses a positive outlook on life, rather than a "cynical" or negative one. I think you best start looking up the meaning of words before you go actually using them.


                                                                                                                      Look at me, I come off as a nice guy on the boards.... but I'm really a complete asshole in real life. :D
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                                                                                                                        • chodadog
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Somebody let me know when those bukkake pics are available.
                                                                                                                          26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                                                            • MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                              • 1026
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                              kids who think our success came from just getting in the game early shall always be clueless.
                                                                                                                              Wow I posted my comments and never read the thread again and it turned all weird about guns and shit.

                                                                                                                              I was just fucking around.


                                                                                                                              I've only been an adult WM for 2 months I've already more than trippled my investment. I'm young and all you old people cant deny that it was MUCH easier to make cash in this biz before it was so oversaturated (not to mention the drowning economy we are currently putting up with). I just hate the bullshit attitude that "oh I made more money than you and ALL new webmasters are crappy becasue I say so"

                                                                                                                              Take your money and shove it. You cant take it with you and when your long gone all those retards who don't know shit will take your place, but if i EVER get where you are I would not make shitty comments about how new webmasters are all stupid. Becasue it would just make me look ignorant.






                                                                                                                              P.S. Did i say it was JUST from getting in the game early.... no.

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                                                                                                                                • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan


                                                                                                                                  I've only been an adult WM for 2 months I've already more than trippled my investment.
                                                                                                                                  so that puts you even with every other noob. Is this going on your resume?

                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan

                                                                                                                                  I'm young and all you old people cant deny that it was MUCH easier to make cash in this biz before it was so oversaturated
                                                                                                                                  of course it was. And yet, thousands STILL didn't make it

                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                  (not to mention the drowning economy we are currently putting up with).
                                                                                                                                  ahhh, the economy only effects noobs. I didn't realize that.


                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                  I just hate the bullshit attitude that "oh I made more money than you and ALL new webmasters are crappy becasue I say so"
                                                                                                                                  Are you not paying attention when you're in school?
                                                                                                                                  Here is what I said on the subject of noobs:

                                                                                                                                  Kath asks,"What do you think about today's newbies - better or worse than a few years ago?"

                                                                                                                                  12clicks responds
                                                                                                                                  I'm afraid they are much worse. There are too many guys in this business that think they are experts after 2 months of gallery building. They *know* sponsor "X" who's been here since '96 shaves sign-ups and they *know* it's not possible to do x y and z. This is the reason so many of the old timers (myself included) have gone quiet on the boards. I'm done wasting my time defending the ideas of my multi-million dollar business, against the attack of some 19 year-old, making beer money out of his dorm room closet. Today's newbies are more interested in the show than the business.
                                                                                                                                  You'll notice I never say, "oh I made more money than you" or "ALL new webmasters"
                                                                                                                                  I understand why you would take offence. It looks like I described you to a T even though the interview probably took place before you came on the net.

                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                  Take your money and shove it. You cant take it with you
                                                                                                                                  ah, the sour grapes. Yes son, these grapes are truely sour.

                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                  and when your long gone all those retards who don't know shit will take your place
                                                                                                                                  no, see thats my point. the smart ones will take my place. not the assclowns.

                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                  but if i EVER get where you are
                                                                                                                                  you won't.
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                  I would not make shitty comments about how new webmasters are all stupid.
                                                                                                                                  Good, then you would be following in my footsteps.


                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                  Becasue it would just make me look ignorant.
                                                                                                                                  but this post doesn't?


                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan

                                                                                                                                  P.S. Did i say it was JUST from getting in the game early.... no.
                                                                                                                                  As a matter of fact, yes, you did.
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan

                                                                                                                                  Old farts who think they are god of the net just becasue they got in the game early are far more annoying.
                                                                                                                                  Christ, after this post, people are going to think I paid you to be my strait man.
                                                                                                                                  ahahahahahahahaha
                                                                                                                                  Last edited by 12clicks; 02-20-2003, 08:37 AM.
                                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                    • MonkeyMan
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                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 1026
                                                                                                                                      #34

                                                                                                                                      If I'm such a stupid assclown why are you taking the time to respond?
                                                                                                                                      Every second you "waste" responding to me is a contradiction to your point.

                                                                                                                                      Your living proof money does not = happiness; your very bitter.

                                                                                                                                      And yes the struggling economy is MUCH MUCH harder on somone with less capital to invest and less recources to fall back on. Its simple economics, but your mister super rich genus mastermind you should know this.

                                                                                                                                      Save the name calling and "n00b" slinging for the counterstrike matches grandpa.



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                                                                                                                                        • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MonkeyMan

                                                                                                                                          If I'm such a stupid assclown why are you taking the time to respond?
                                                                                                                                          Every second you "waste" responding to me is a contradiction to your point.

                                                                                                                                          Your living proof money does not = happiness; your very bitter.

                                                                                                                                          And yes the struggling economy is MUCH MUCH harder on somone with less capital to invest and less recources to fall back on. Its simple economics, but your mister super rich genus mastermind you should know this.

                                                                                                                                          Save the name calling and "n00b" slinging for the counterstrike matches grandpa.
                                                                                                                                          ouch! that comeback post really put me in my place.
                                                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                            • MonkeyMan
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                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Fuck it, theres always a bigger fish.

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                                                                                                                                                • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 19814
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                                  Fuck it, theres always a bigger fish.
                                                                                                                                                  whatever you say plankton
                                                                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Lane
                                                                                                                                                      Will code for food...
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 8496
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      respect

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                                                                                                                                                        • chodadog
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 9736
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MonkeyMan
                                                                                                                                                          Blah blah blah blah blah
                                                                                                                                                          Man, i'm a newbie myself, but i'm not offended by what he wrote. You know why? I don't think i know everything about this business, and i don't pretend to know more than the people that have raked in millions of dollars.

                                                                                                                                                          If someone yells out "hey, stupid!" in a crowded room, do you turn to see who's calling you?
                                                                                                                                                          26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 51460
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I can see where 12click's "noob" comments could really hit home with some people. Fact is, he's right. There ARE a lot of newbs that are in it for the *show* rather than solid professional business. I think his comments are directed at certain individuals, not *all* newbs across the board.


                                                                                                                                                              If you're a newb and you find that 12click's comments don't apply to you, then great. Shaddap and move along up the ladder already.


                                                                                                                                                              But if you're a newb and find that his words ring true in your case, then by all means start beakin' off so we know who you are.
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                                                                                                                                                              Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket.                                                                                                                                                               ICQ me at: 31024634

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                                                                                                                                                                • nevermind
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 276
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  12clicks is right. No point in wasting time on 19 year olds.

                                                                                                                                                                  That's for sure.
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by nevermind; 02-20-2003, 12:45 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 19814
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by chodadog


                                                                                                                                                                      Man, i'm a newbie myself, but i'm not offended by what he wrote. You know why? I don't think i know everything about this business, and i don't pretend to know more than the people that have raked in millions of dollars.

                                                                                                                                                                      If someone yells out "hey, stupid!" in a crowded room, do you turn to see who's calling you?
                                                                                                                                                                      Some newbies you can recognize brains in right away and you look forward to seeing them succeed.
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • CDSmith
                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 51460
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                                                                                                          If someone yells out "hey, stupid!" in a crowded room, do you turn to see who's calling you?
                                                                                                                                                                          I look at the crowd to see who yells "over here!"
                                                                                                                                                                          Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!

                                                                                                                                                                          ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!!
                                                                                                                                                                          Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket.                                                                                                                                                                           ICQ me at: 31024634

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Ludedude
                                                                                                                                                                              Suck it!
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 4432
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Great article. Finally got around to reading it. It should be recommended reading for all the kidZ in the biz

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                                                                                                                                                                                • SquarePants
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 408
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  What kind of potential do you see in mainstream that the rest of us are missing?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Nothing.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Mainstream has really taken it on the chin and most of our competitors have gone out of business. Sex ALWAYS sells. There is always a market for it. In mainstream, the advertising dollars have been sucked out of the market. It's very difficult too right now in mainstream. Only our overall experience and our early adult experiences have seen us through this tough time.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Good QA on the main stream. We too have seen most of our local comp. fold or give up. Not sure if I can agree that main stream is dead. We have seen a large increase as of late.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.
                                                                                                                                                                                  - Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.

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