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02-13-2003, 08:39 AM

Let me 1st start off by saying I have had an ars account for almost a year.. and havent sent them traffic for almost 6 months.. I think I might have them on one of my 1st paysites 404 page or something. see below:

Dear Trey Hickey,
> >
> > Account 185758 has been placed on hold for the following reason:
> > Low ConversionS.
> >
> > I feel this is necessary because:
> > Low conversions of 1:1
> >
> > Please contact Amber by emailing [email protected] or calling
> 702.233.1267 to resolve this matter.
> >
> > Please note, although your account has been placed on hold and you are
> unable to login, sales and hits will continue to be tracked and credited
> to
> your account.
> >
> > Thank you for your attention in this matter.
> >
> > Best,
> > Amber

To: Payout Support
> Subject: Re: ARS Webmaster Account on Hold
>
> I have been an affiliate for over a year, and you place my account on
> hold
> why? I have no idea what my ratio is, I dont eveen push traffic to you
> anymore hardly... whats the problem?

Subject: RE: ARS Webmaster Account on Hold

> The low conversion of 1:1 is what flagged your account in our system.
> After looking into this, there is no referring URL to the sale that was
> placed, which is another red flag. This is the reason behind your
> account being placed on hold.

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should I reply with this?

take the account and stick it up your fuckig ass. This is how you treat long time affiliates... I will make sure to let everyone know about it. Did the signup chargeback? Did the signup get a credit? Do I have a history of screwing you guys with sales that were fraud? NO!
No wonder ars is going in the hole,You treat your webmasters like total shit.
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02-13-2003, 08:40 AM

hahahahahahahahaha i got termed two years ago for the same reason..... When you are on hold, you are fucked, they will term you
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02-13-2003, 08:54 AM

I replied witht his after giving it some thought:

I used a stolen credit card to signup and get porn.. especially since i run my own program.. Id rather try and steal 35$ from you guys, then join my own damn paysites lol.
screw off. Take the 35$ and get yourself a happy meal.

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p.s. Please close my account for good. You will never see any more traffic from me again. Thats a promise.
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02-13-2003, 08:59 AM

p{mpd0g,

Why didn't you just tell amber what you posted here.

"I think I might have them on one of my 1st paysites 404 page or something."

She told you why she put your account on hold, but you never told her why your conversions were so low, or why the sale did not have any referring URL. We don't treat our webmasters like shit. As a matter of fact we go above and beyond for our webmasters. But when something doesn't look right, we have to find out why. Communication is the key, how about giving it a try?

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02-13-2003, 09:01 AM

damn it, i wanted that happy meal
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02-13-2003, 09:04 AM

ARS fucking sucks.
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02-13-2003, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Matt M
p{mpd0g,

Why didn't you just tell amber what you posted here.

"I think I might have them on one of my 1st paysites 404 page or something."

She told you why she put your account on hold, but you never told her why your conversions were so low, or why the sale did not have any referring URL. We don't treat our webmasters like shit. As a matter of fact we go above and beyond for our webmasters. But when something doesn't look right, we have to find out why. Communication is the key, how about giving it a try?

because you guys should watch what the fuck your doing more closly. I have been with you for over a year I think.. sent plenty of signups.. had really really shitty conversions (imagine that).. and I stopped 6 months ago atleast. You should have called your processor and asked about the sale or something. I havent logged into my ars account in many months. Getting that email was an insult. Dont try and turn this around on me.

You telling me the only way you detect fraud is by ratio and referer? LOL

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02-13-2003, 09:08 AM

I just realized.. $35 bucks can buy 2 happy meals.. why dont you let her take you out to lunch today.
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02-13-2003, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by p{mpd0g
I just realized.. $35 bucks can buy 2 happy meals.. why dont you let her take you out to lunch today.

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02-13-2003, 09:18 AM

because you guys should watch what the fuck your doing more closly. I have been with you for over a year I think.. sent plenty of signups.. had really really shitty conversions (imagine that).. and I stopped 6 months ago atleast. You should have called your processor and asked about the sale or something. I havent logged into my ars account in many months. Getting that email was an insult. Dont try and turn this around on me.

We are watching it pretty closely thus the reason your account was put on hold. I dont understand how getting the e-mail was an insult. If you wanted to know about something wouldn't you ask?

You telling me the only way you detect fraud is by ratio and referer? LOL

Of course not, but it is what stood out in this case.

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02-13-2003, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by Matt M

Of course not, but it is what stood out in this case.

Great matt... Thanks for the immediate attention. Close my account for good. No more traffic from my account is to be accepted by ARS, apparantly it has more value on a tgp in romania.

btw.. Over the last 6 months that i havent sent you traffic (willingly) do you not think it possible that i could have sent 5-10 hits per day.. and out of the blue an actual sale appears?
so in reality, my ratio wouldnt be 1:1 would it?

I cant log into my account cause im on high red fraud alert, so I dont know the details. Please tell me how much traffic was sent over the last 6 months and when the sale occured.

And from that data.. use your head and think of all the possiblities while you are having lunch with my frozen $35 payout that I will never see.

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02-13-2003, 09:24 AM

This 1-1 ratio - are we talking about 1 hit and 1 sale or about 30 hits and 30 sales. There's logic to flagging the later but certainly not to flagging the former.

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02-13-2003, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy
This 1-1 ratio - are we talking about 1 hit and 1 sale or about 30 hits and 30 sales. There's logic to flagging the later but certainly not to flagging the former.

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02-13-2003, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy
This 1-1 ratio - are we talking about 1 hit and 1 sale or about 30 hits and 30 sales. There's logic to flagging the later but certainly not to flagging the former.

apparantly I had 1 hit and 1 sale. I could see placing me on hold if i had like 5 hits and 5 sales.. but 1 and 1? come on.

actually thats not even the point. the point is... I have been an affiliate for a long time and sent many many more sales in the past. I can see putting me on hold if i was 1:1 if i was a new affilliate that never sent traffic before and just started with them. Im not even mad about this. I think its funny as shit a company that large makes the choices they do. No investigation was done other than happymeal girl clicking a few links and basing her decission off of that. No look into my past performance with them to see any trends on my account.. something that I would think would me make a better sound decission on an account.. other than a ratio and referer.

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02-13-2003, 09:26 AM

Pimpdog is a gangster !
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02-13-2003, 09:29 AM

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02-13-2003, 09:32 AM

pimpdog, how about you and I combine our money that was frozen, my 200 + your 35

we can buy mcdonalds for the office for a week!
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02-13-2003, 09:33 AM

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02-13-2003, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by Pipecrew
pimpdog, how about you and I combine our money that was frozen, my 200 + your 35

we can buy mcdonalds for the office for a week!

hehe that would be money well spent. Seems like thing are getting pretty tight over there at innovative ideas lol

not very innovative anymore are they? haha
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02-13-2003, 09:35 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by p{mpd0g
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go start a thread crying about some more shit bitch

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02-13-2003, 09:35 AM

Great matt... Thanks for the immediate attention. Close my account for good. No more traffic from my account is to be accepted by ARS

p{mpd0g,

This decision was not made by us, but by you. In the e-mail sent by Amber, it stats:

"Please contact Amber by emailing [email protected] or calling
702.233.1267 to resolve this matter.

Please note, although your account has been placed on hold and you are unable to login, sales and hits will continue to be tracked and credited to your account. "

This clearly means that we are not slamming the door shut on you. You are taking that action yourself.

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02-13-2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by Matt M

p{mpd0g,

This decision was not made by us, but by you. In the e-mail sent by Amber, it stats:

"Please contact Amber by emailing [email protected] or calling
702.233.1267 to resolve this matter.

Please note, although your account has been placed on hold and you are unable to login, sales and hits will continue to be tracked and credited to your account. "

This clearly means that we are not slamming the door shut on you. You are taking that action yourself.

cool thanks. please close the account and take me off your webmaster mailing list.
case closed.
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02-13-2003, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Matt M

p{mpd0g,

This decision was not made by us, but by you. In the e-mail sent by Amber, it stats:

"Please contact Amber by emailing [email protected] or calling
702.233.1267 to resolve this matter.

Please note, although your account has been placed on hold and you are unable to login, sales and hits will continue to be tracked and credited to your account. "

This clearly means that we are not slamming the door shut on you. You are taking that action yourself.

i think you should review your policies on these holds, i've seen a few people on the ars boards get extremely pissed off about those emails.
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02-13-2003, 09:40 AM

My account was frozen once 3 days after I opened it up. No traffic was ever sent. I never received a response to my emails so I have no idea what I did wrong. This was a year ago, things may have changed since then.

What exactly is the ARS red flag policy?

What do other sponsors do for "red flags" and suspicious accounts?

I usually talk to the person in question, see what they think is going on, then talk with one of their other sponsors to see if they have had any fraud problems or other suspicious activities. Am I the only one who does this?

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02-13-2003, 09:40 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by alias

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go start a thread crying about some more shit bitch

you 2 faced little cock suckinging bitch..

wasnt too long ago you asked to be my partner was it alias?
wasnt to long ago you were running behind everyones back and stabbing everyone in the back by telling nuc everything was it?

who is the bitch now you litte 2 faced prick. stick to irc bots and spam, you are good at it.. loser.
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02-13-2003, 09:41 AM

Matt - if we're talking about 1 hit - 1 sale then you really are talking out your ass and like many so called 'legitimate' businesses would rather throw around bullshit accusations (screwing people in the process be it $35 or $3.5k it's still screwing people) and never admit to fuckups than give good customer service. More hits/sales than that though is a different matter. Pimpdog seems to think just the one sale so this whole thing really is a joke and shows incompetence on ARS's part. To deny it just makes you look even more silly with each post.

If 1 hit 1 sale over a prolonged period he should never have been flagged and never have needed to reply in the first place.

Ignorance is never bliss.
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02-13-2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy
Matt - if we're talking about 1 hit - 1 sale then you really are talking out your ass and like many so called 'legitimate' businesses would rather throw around bullshit accusations (screwing people in the process be it $35 or $3.5k it's still screwing people) and never admit to fuckups than give good customer service. More hits/sales than that though is a different matter. Pimpdog seems to think just the one sale so this whole thing really is a joke and shows incompetence on ARS's part. To deny it just makes you look even more silly with each post.

If 1 hit 1 sale over a prolonged period he should never have been flagged and never have needed to reply in the first place.

well said.
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02-13-2003, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by p{mpd0g

you 2 faced little cock suckinging bitch..

wasnt too long ago you asked to be my partner was it alias?
wasnt to long ago you were running behind everyones back and stabbing everyone in the back by telling nuc everything was it?

who is the bitch now you litte 2 faced prick. stick to irc bots and spam, you are good at it.. loser.

i never told nuc shit, i havent fucked with irc bots for a long time

i didnt partner with you because your site members area was shit

you are the 2 faced one and have 0 loyalty, but people will have to figure that out for themselves

and you are gonna call mea spammer? heh why cuz i found prohosters for you? at least im not a carding bitch like you

GO PAD SOME SIGNUPS FAG

i know you are gonna be pissed but try to refrain from calling my dad ok?

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02-13-2003, 09:46 AM

ARS probably sends out a couple million dollars a month to webmasters...I think if you did that, you would want to make sure you were paying for something useful. I would think the smartest thing to do to keep your reputation as a non-cheater in the industry and to actually get the $35 would be to call ARS and be firm about how you didn't fake the signup and get them to re-open your account. They are good people and always respond quickly. I think their customer service is unmatched.

Maybe I'm just a cheerleader for them cause I'm having a huge week there
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02-13-2003, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by alias

i never told nuc shit, i havent fucked with irc bots for a long time

i didnt partner with you because your site members area was shit

you are the 2 faced one and have 0 loyalty, but people will have to figure that out for themselves

and you are gonna call mea spammer? heh why cuz i found prohosters for you? at least im not a carding bitch like you

GO PAD SOME SIGNUPS FAG

i know you are gonna be pissed but try to refrain from calling my dad ok?

nice come back alias.. you are just jealous of me and you know it.. I went from having shit like you, to processing several thousands of dollars per month in no time at all. Get over it little kid.. If you put down the cocaine, and the weed, and the mushrooms and took life serious for once, you might make something of yourself.
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02-13-2003, 09:50 AM

believe me pimpdog you are not the first webmaster that had their account closed on ars, I know they owed me over $700. They closed my account because they said I spammed. WTF I have never spamed in my life, but hey, how do you think Marc D can afford his 9 cars?

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02-13-2003, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by p{mpd0g

nice come back alias.. you are just jealous of me and you know it.. I went from having shit like you, to processing several thousands of dollars per month in no time at all. Get over it little kid.. If you put down the cocaine, and the weed, and the mushrooms and took life serious for once, you might make something of yourself.

honestly its not that, you act all hardcore and badass and talk a decent game till something doesnt go your way then cry about it like a little bitch.

your recent flames are so lame, a 40 gig hd? big deal.. .

ars sends you an email asking some shit... big deal

u wanna be hardcore act like it

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02-13-2003, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by alias

honestly its not that, you act all hardcore and badass and talk a decent game till something doesnt go your way then cry about it like a little bitch.

your recent flames are so lame, a 40 gig hd? big deal.. .

ars sends you an email asking some shit... big deal

u wanna be hardcore act like it

no.. the deal is tough guy is that I dont take shit from any body. I wont lay down for anybody and I will speak my mind.. If I make an ass of myself, so be it.. thats MY choice, but Im not a spineless fuck like you.

ted can stick that HD up his ass. Its the principle I was fucked out of a HD that was mine. do you not get that?

this shit with ars is stupid and I wont tollerate it. I did nothing wrong and they are going to know about it one way or the other.

I ever fucked you alias? please tell me. If not then stfu and mind your own business. You used to be all buddy buddy with me until I lef that stupid chat.. now that Im not there, you are going to kiss their asses and show off like you are somebody. You aint shit.
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02-13-2003, 09:58 AM

Whoever join pimpdog's program has a serious problem.

That immature guy is probably under 20 years old. I would not invest any time or energy with a stupid fag like him. We already had the same email from ARS and it was fixed within 24 hrs without any problem. (we also send 'em about 100 clicks per day from 2 years ago)

Do you cry at Visa or processors because they keep a 10% reserve and charge huge fees because this industry is full of bastards? No... so don't cry about ARS if they are checking if everything is 100% legit.

Bitch.

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02-13-2003, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by p{mpd0g

no.. the deal is tough guy is that I dont take shit from any body. I wont lay down for anybody and I will speak my mind.. If I make an ass of myself, so be it.. thats MY choice, but Im not a spineless fuck like you.

ted can stick that HD up his ass. Its the principle I was fucked out of a HD that was mine. do you not get that?

this shit with ars is stupid and I wont tollerate it. I did nothing wrong and they are going to know about it one way or the other.

I ever fucked you alias? please tell me. If not then stfu and mind your own business. You used to be all buddy buddy with me until I lef that stupid chat.. now that Im not there, you are going to kiss their asses and show off like you are somebody. You aint shit.

why did you leave that chat? you never said goodbye

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02-13-2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by the indigo
Whoever join pimpdog's program has a serious problem.

That immature guy is probably under 20 years old. I would not invest any time or energy with a stupid fag like him. We already had the same email from ARS and it was fixed within 24 hrs without any problem. (we also send 'em about 100 clicks per day from 2 years ago)

Do you cry at Visa or processors because they keep a 10% reserve and charge huge fees because this industry is full of bastards? No... so don't cry about ARS if they are checking if everything is 100% legit.

Bitch.

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02-13-2003, 10:03 AM

this kind of reminds me of a conversation between serge_o and amp a few days ago. hehe

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02-13-2003, 10:03 AM

Since I stopped sending traffic to top bucks I still get sales now and again, and more than once I've seen 1:1 and even 2:2 one time. Didn't seem to hit their "fraud alerts", and I get little checks in the mail once in a while.

Guys from ARS, wouldn't it be easier to shave every signup instead of just half of them? That way you wouldn't have problems like this. Think about it.
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02-13-2003, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by alias

why did you leave that chat? you never said goodbye

I left because freedom of speach wasnt honored there.
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02-13-2003, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by p{mpd0g

Im 25.

You look older though - more like 40. Its probably just been a hard life.

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02-13-2003, 10:04 AM

dude i say ****** all the time

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02-13-2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy

You look older though - more like 40. Its probably just been a hard life.

It has been a rough life

I cant go into details cause alias will think I am crying about it.
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02-13-2003, 10:13 AM

Maybe i just forgot how sensitive you are, all I said was "you suck" it wasn't a super personal attack.. .

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02-13-2003, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by alias
Maybe i just forgot how sensitive you are, all I said was "you suck" it wasn't a super personal attack.. .

It could even have been a compliment. Many a gay guy would consider being good at sucking a great asset!

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02-13-2003, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by alias
Maybe i just forgot how sensitive you are, all I said was "you suck" it wasn't a super personal attack.. .

being sensative has nothing todo with it... I thought we were cool.. How long has it been since we spoke? 3 months or something? then you come on here and try do this shit? thats fucking stupid. you even have a god damn domain in my nick pimpdog.com

lets not forget all the shell accounts and subdomains i hosted for you at prohosters for your irc bots.

i have no loyalty? fuck you.
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02-13-2003, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by p{mpd0g

being sensative has nothing todo with it... I thought we were cool.. How long has it been since we spoke? 3 months or something? then you come on here and try do this shit? thats fucking stupid. you even have a god damn domain in my nick pimpdog.com

lets not forget all the shell accounts and subdomains i hosted for you at prohosters for your irc bots.

i have no loyalty? fuck you.

thats my point, i said "btw pimpdog sucks" no big deal.. just fucking around ... you made it personal

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02-13-2003, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by alias

honestly its not that, you act all hardcore and badass and talk a decent game till something doesnt go your way then cry about it like a little bitch.

your recent flames are so lame, a 40 gig hd? big deal.. .

ars sends you an email asking some shit... big deal

u wanna be hardcore act like it

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02-13-2003, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

a host steals a hard drive and its nothing? its still theft

is it an issue for gfy? couldn't you just call the host?

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02-13-2003, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by the indigo
Whoever join pimpdog's program has a serious problem.

That immature guy is probably under 20 years old. I would not invest any time or energy with a stupid fag like him. We already had the same email from ARS and it was fixed within 24 hrs without any problem. (we also send 'em about 100 clicks per day from 2 years ago)

Do you cry at Visa or processors because they keep a 10% reserve and charge huge fees because this industry is full of bastards? No... so don't cry about ARS if they are checking if everything is 100% legit.

Bitch.

Well we must have serious problems eh?? We signed up last week. Damn I have a serious problem. Shit gotta call my mom and tell her.

I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.
- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.
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p{mpd0g

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Feb 2003

Posts: 97
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02-13-2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by alias

is it an issue for gfy? couldn't you just call the host?

maybe you missed the fucking part where it took them 6 fucking months to even get them to send me the server back in the 1st place?

yea Im going to call ted and get 0 response.
use your head.
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