Wow that is alot of posts. If each post took a minute to do that is 300 hours of posting. WOW! Did I add that right? I always did suck at math. Well I am right behind you Amp.
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Originally posted by BluMedia Wow that is alot of posts. If each post took a minute to do that is 300 hours of posting. WOW! Did I add that right? I always did suck at math. Well I am right behind you Amp.
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Don't forget to add the 20 seconds that you have to wait between each post.
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A little less time posting, and a little more perfecting your skills, and you wouldn't have to be so worried about what other, vastly superior designers, are charging for their services.
Originally posted by The Truth Hurts A little less time posting, and a little more perfecting your skills, and you wouldn't have to be so worried about what other, vastly superior designers, are charging for their services.
seriously.... there was no stink. Serge said he got the site as a favor. That's a price that can't be beat. End of stink. Everything else is just playing. The fact is, if he paid more than $200 for it, he paid too much. Damn near everyone will agree. That's not an argument.... it's reality. But He either got it for nothing, or doesn't care about the cost. Either way, it really makes no damn difference to me. I was simply pointing it out. (perhaps he wasn;t aware) Just doing some community service.
But don't make more out of it than what it is. The only drama here is created in the minds of the readers and in your mind. I don't dwell on this shit any more than I dwell on who's fucking who in the next episode of 'Friends'.
You can read into this stuff what you will. Whatever makes you happy man.... but don't start dictating what I should be doing:
A little less time posting, and a little more perfecting your skills, and you wouldn't have to be so worried about what other, vastly superior designers, are charging for their services.
because I may take issue with that.
When you are here paying my bills and my rent and putting food in my refrigerator and sitting in my chair in my office doing my work, THEN you can tell me what the fuck it is that I should be doing.
his days as a design God are through... there are guys on GFY that blow him away. Flashers and static guys equally....
if you're paying MikeW prices today, you are a fool.
Didn't sound like playing to me.
But anyway, I wonder how long before all you *good* designers that are charging tit-change for you work will realize that you're getting anally raped by your clients.
If you think it through, you'd find that with a little effort, you can make a hell of a lot more putting your design skills to work for you, instead of someone else.
dude.... that statement is totally true. It's not playing, it's fact. If you;re paying $3500 bucks for a three page MW tour, you;re flushing your money. That doesn;t mean you;re not getting a good tour.... but it DOES mean you could have gotten one equally as good or better for half that or less.
So how does that bring us to me posting less and working on my skills? It's fucking true and you know it. And who the fuck are you to say shit?
First off, there are few that can do MikeW caliber work, and even fewer that make their way here.
That's not to say that someday they won't be, hell even MikeW's early work wasn't exactly what you'd call good, or even original for that matter.
The point is, NOW, he's the man.
Supply and demand dictates his price, and obviously, he's in demand and his prices reflect it.
If his demand goes down, his prices will reflect that.
Simple.
But you, as a relatively well known designer shouldn't go pissing in his corn flakes because he charges more than you do.
Originally posted by The Truth Hurts First off, there are few that can do MikeW caliber work, and even fewer that make their way here.
That's not to say that someday they won't be, hell even MikeW's early work wasn't exactly what you'd call good, or even original for that matter.
The point is, NOW, he's the man.
Supply and demand dictates his price, and obviously, he's in demand and his prices reflect it.
If his demand goes down, his prices will reflect that.
Simple.
But you, as a relatively well known designer shouldn't go pissing in his corn flakes because he charges more than you do.
Someday you may be in his position.
yeah... whatever dude. I'll start listening to what you think I should and shouldn't be doing right about the time you start listening to what I tell YOU you should and shouldn't be doing. But until that day comes.... eat dick.
My demand is pretty fucking extreme as well. I spend a good chunk of my day doing nothing but turning people away that want work. Does this mean my prices go sky fucking high? No. It means I take on less work because I'm full.
But hey... like I said... if someone wants to pay that... more power to them.... lol. Great for Mike. Pissing in his cornflakes? Hardly. I've never said a bad word about him other than I believe his prices are ridiculous. That's not speaking badly of him..... it's speaking badly of the people who are paying it.
You have to look at it this way, when you have an ultra high end designer its like buying a Bentley or a Rolls. We all know darn well that a Mercedes is just as fine at a better price value, but when you have a Bentley or a Rolls in your driveway you are making a statement that says I can afford the best and don't give a fuck how much it costs.
Mike has the design genius of Picasso. He is a super nice guy also. And he works his butt off for his clients til the project is perfect.
Also, Mike is one of the most connected guys in the industry and can open any door for you. That factor alone makes his prices well worth the cost.
Originally posted by The Truth Hurts A little less time posting, and a little more perfecting your skills, and you wouldn't have to be so worried about what other, vastly superior designers, are charging for their services.
this would be the post that started all this shit in my happy thread about 18k posts.... why you decided to fuck up my thread with this bullshit about Mike W here, I don't know, but I wish you'd take it somewhere else.
Not so much to justify it, just saying it like it is. That is why people pay Mike top dollar. He's designed more adult sites than anyone else out there that I know of and for most of the biggest players.
Its like having Donald Trump as your partner on a Real Estate project. It adds celebrity to it. Or having Steven Spielberg direct your film. Your odds are you'll have a money maker. Is Steven worth 30% of the GROSS, Fuck Yeh! I'll do that deal 24 / 7.
Originally posted by The Truth Hurts A little less time posting, and a little more perfecting your skills, and you wouldn't have to be so worried about what other, vastly superior designers, are charging for their services.
a little less bitching about my posting and a little more minding your own fucking business and you wouldn't have to worry about what I think about Mike's prices in other threads.
Originally posted by KRL Not so much to justify it, just saying it like it is. That is why people pay Mike top dollar. He's designed more adult sites than anyone else out there that I know of and for most of the biggest players.
Its like having Donald Trump as your partner on a Real Estate project. It adds celebrity to it. Or having Steven Spielberg direct your film. Your odds are you'll have a money maker.
lol.... gimme a fucking break. He's selling 3 page tours like anyone else. There's nothing magical about the shit.
I got respect for Mike and all, but you guys need to stop with the pedestal shit.... he's not the be all end all of tours and I'm sure he'd tell you that himself. That said, this is not what this thread is about. Take it somewhere else.
Our radio show this Friday (show #133) is on webmasters who love to post and you'd qualify as a perfect guest with those 18k+ posts. Would you be available this Friday by chance or will you be out with a loved one / significant other?
If you are down for the show then please hit me up at principal at scriptschool dot com with your phone contact info. Starts 2pm PT / 5pm ET. Anybody else with over 1500 posts here at GFY (or any other adult webmaster board) is also invited and welcome to contact me as well about making a guest appearance this Friday. It's a free opportunity to promote your site/service to webmasters at one of the longest running webmaster-related radio shows on the web. We're going on our 4th year of broadcasting.
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