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  • sacX
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 2998
    #1

    misleading whois information on domain

    I own a few domains, and i have a telephone number that is incorrect. The reason for this is that I live in New Zealand and people don't seem to appreciate there is a time difference and will call at all hours (actually most of my domains have my cell #, but this one didn't).

    Some other details on the domain are also wrong, but the email has always worked.

    Is this so wrong? I have been harrased by this newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.sightings sending emails to my registrar to try and get my domains revoked, i've had a guy go to a post shop to try and verify owner of my pox box. The didn't bother trying to politely email me first before they did this.

    I emailed this guy who went to the post office, and asked what business of his was it, he seems indigant that I invited this by having false whois information. He insists this is the only reason he's doing this I hadn't even done anything to any of these
    guys.


    Here is some of the correspondence:
    http://www.anystop.com/lawson.txt
    http://www.anystop.com/lawson2.txt
    http://www.anystop.com/lawson3.txt
    http://www.anystop.com/lawson4.txt

    so question is, am I so out of line here? is trying to protect my privacy so wrong ( i know it's against ICANN T+C) , or is he in my opinion and his own sarcastic opinion a net-nazi.
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    • vegasdude
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2001
      • 3649
      #2
      new sheriff in town!
      Did you fucking talk to me??!
      Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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        • exspamr
          Registered User
          • Dec 2002
          • 1427
          #3
          guess he has nothing better to do with his time... loser

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            • rooster
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 2384
              #4
              could this be backlash for being a hardcore spammer?
              Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                • sacX
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 2998
                  #5
                  rooster,

                  no it's not. I bought a domain that used to be used by a russian spammer (apparently).. i have asked repeatedly what I have done, but there is no mention of any spam (because I haven't done any).

                  he was alerted because the domain used to be owned by a spammer, now he realises that he got it wrong he is fixated that it's purely about the whois info..

                  Of course it would make sense if I had been a hardcore spammer.

                  The guy who started it all just emailed my abuse@registrars complaining about it again..

                  Try and visualise what you think this guy would look like, and how and what his website would be like..

                  Now see how close it matches
                  http://www.fastlink.com
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                    • Mr.Fiction
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 9484
                      #6
                      Buying domains previously owned by scammers can be a nightmare.

                      Idiots won't believe you, even when you show them the registration date.

                      Wait until your bandwidth provider decides that they don't believe you, even when the new registration date is right there in WHOIS. It happens.
                      Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                        • Des
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 41
                          #7
                          Originally posted by sacX

                          Is this so wrong? I have been harrased by this newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.sightings sending emails to my registrar to try and get my domains revoked, i've had a guy go to a post shop to try and verify owner of my pox box. The didn't bother trying to politely email me first before they did this.
                          Not to sure if this is what your looking for but something like this happened to me not long ago and heres the info I got!

                          The validity of the information in the WHOIS database is
                          important to us. Therefore, upon notification of inaccurate
                          or unreliable contact information, Network Solutions, will
                          take reasonable steps to investigate that claim.

                          It is the responsibility of the domain name registrant to
                          maintain current information. It is possible however, that
                          the registrant does not realize that there is an error in
                          their contact information. We will notify the registrant
                          and request that the information be updated appropriately.

                          If you are the registrant or the domain name's guardian and
                          would like to make changes to your domain name record, please
                          visit our Web site at http://www.networksolutions.com and click
                          the "Account Manager" tab.

                          If you have encountered what you believe to be inaccurate or
                          unreliable contact information, we ask that you provide us with
                          evidence of this information. This evidence would consist of a
                          copy of the returned postal mail. Please fax the returned mail
                          to 703-668-7831, Attn: Breach of Contract. Once approved, Network
                          Solutions, will initiate a formal investigation.

                          Best regards,

                          Niccolo001
                          Network Solutions, Inc.
                          http://www.networksolutions.com

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                            • vegasdude
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 3649
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Des

                              Not to sure if this is what your looking for but something like this happened to me not long ago and heres the info I got!

                              The validity of the information in the WHOIS database is
                              important to us. Therefore, upon notification of inaccurate
                              or unreliable contact information, Network Solutions, will
                              take reasonable steps to investigate that claim.

                              It is the responsibility of the domain name registrant to
                              maintain current information. It is possible however, that
                              the registrant does not realize that there is an error in
                              their contact information. We will notify the registrant
                              and request that the information be updated appropriately.

                              If you are the registrant or the domain name's guardian and
                              would like to make changes to your domain name record, please
                              visit our Web site at http://www.networksolutions.com and click
                              the "Account Manager" tab.

                              If you have encountered what you believe to be inaccurate or
                              unreliable contact information, we ask that you provide us with
                              evidence of this information. This evidence would consist of a
                              copy of the returned postal mail. Please fax the returned mail
                              to 703-668-7831, Attn: Breach of Contract. Once approved, Network
                              Solutions, will initiate a formal investigation.

                              Best regards,

                              Niccolo001
                              Network Solutions, Inc.
                              http://www.networksolutions.com
                              damn!
                              Did you fucking talk to me??!
                              Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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                                • sacX
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 2998
                                  #9
                                  looks like they can't really do shit, but they sure can complain and waste registries time a lot.
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                                    • twistyneck
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 4660
                                      #10
                                      GoDaddy has the option to make your information private. Maybe your registrar can do the same thing.

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                                        • psyko514
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 22366
                                          #11
                                          A lot of registrars are offering private registration now.
                                          Transfer to them.

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                                            • Thomas N
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 973
                                              #12
                                              In letter #3, he mentions spammers, and from the context I get the feeling it is a real sore issue for the guy. He's full of shit in saying he is just doing it to get the records correct. He's either after you because of spam or something else.

                                              My guess is he's an antispammer crusader and he's looking to bust your chops. That or he somehow feels he is a victim of some other business activity associated with your domain.

                                              He's trying to play dumb with you and get you to correct your information for a reason. Because his agenda is to find out your real name, real address, real phone numbers etc etc.

                                              Why is he doing that? Hard to say, my guess is he wants to harrass you, intimidate you, maybe serve you legal papers?

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                                                • inthestars
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 2021
                                                  #13
                                                  Since you have all his personal info, tell him that you'll report him to his employer for stalking you online.

                                                  That guy is an asshole, too bad he has so much time on his hands.

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                                                    • Mr.Fiction
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 9484
                                                      #14
                                                      He doesn't need a reason to get your domain deleted for false whois information. It is required that you have all accurate information in whois. They don't need any reason to make you update the information and if you don't update it, they can delete it without your consent. It's just the rules.
                                                      Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                        • Rochard
                                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 75762
                                                          #15
                                                          Get a second phone number and route to an answering machine.

                                                          We had one guy a couple of weeks ago who just had all kinds of issues with us. He claimed to be an attorney, and had an email from a law firm in Southern Cailifornia. So, I called their office and asked to speak to their personal manager. I told her... A few lies.... and found out this guy was a clerk, not an attorney. Later that day she called me back and told me he was sent home for a week without pay. Opps.
                                                          Herschel Savage
                                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                                            • monro
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 787
                                                              #16
                                                              [i]]
                                                              so question is, am I so out of line here? is trying to protect my privacy so wrong ( i know it's against ICANN T+C) , or is he in my opinion and his own sarcastic opinion a net-nazi. [/B]
                                                              We had the same problem.

                                                              Solution:
                                                              We bougt a mail forwarding service and are using that info to feed whois.

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                                                                • Kick Ass Chat
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 2057
                                                                  #17
                                                                  You bought a domain from a russian spammer ????
                                                                  [email protected]

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                                                                    • UncleJimmy
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 855
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Wasn't there some law being attempted to be passed on that here in the US?

                                                                      What ever happend to that....
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                                                                        • sacX
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 2998
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Swordfish:
                                                                          He's definitely an anti-spam crusader, but he's insistent that it's just because the whois information is incorrect. He assumed that I'd been involved in spam, and now that he realises i wasn't can't find the courage to go back and say he was wrong.

                                                                          Although from his emails he is pretty insistent that it was purely about the whois.

                                                                          I just really don't want to change my whois because it will feel like they've won


                                                                          here's the last and what sounds like final installment from him
                                                                          http://www.anystop.com/lawson5.txt

                                                                          I like how he mentions calling the Police on me, and how he can't see how he's a net-nazi
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