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01-29-2003, 12:15 PM

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You used dianetics?

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I have read all the books, yes.

I take from everything I read, dont we all?

Dianetics is an awesome book.

So is the Aquarian Conspiracy,but I dont put faith in anything but my own decisions though. Its just someone elses words, its only how you use them for positive motivation in <i>your</i> life that matters. Not the Title or Doctrine.

Instead of watching TV I read, nothing wrong with reading bookss, even if they are Dianetic.

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01-29-2003, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

You can also be coached for large, "deep" interviews. For instance, there are courses for politicians in "How to come over as saying a lot while you're actually saying nothing". (No, really, it's true)

Example?

I can't believe that would work on the majority, or even more than once.
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01-29-2003, 12:16 PM

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I have read all the books, yes.

I take from everything I read, dont we all?

Dianetics is an awesome book.

So is the Aquarian Conspiracy, I dont put faith in anything but my own decisions though.

Instead of watching TV I read, nothing wrong with reading bookss, even if they are Dianetic.

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Is the book just trying to upsell you into scientology?
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01-29-2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Ah, so - unlike all contemporary philosophers, psychologists, neurologists, etc. - you <b>do</b> know exactly what intelligence is?

Well, at present, the most commonly accepted definition is not "the way your brain work", but "the ability to recognize logical structures in empirical data and form abstract theories accordingly".

hehe, who are your trying to impress here with the big words..?

How the brain work is to summerize it...
observation, Anylse follow by logic judgement(which is a proccess in itself... associations, theories, etc..)

My point earlier is your knowledge on Economics, politics... is not a sign of superior intelligence ....
You can talk about sport , music and show high degree of intelligence...
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01-29-2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

Yeah, that just you dude... sorry...

and to answer your question... she was talking about women sexuality... seen by society, men and women, double standards...
If what she's doing bad or not for teens... If she is pressured to do whatever by Producers, etc...

Yes you can be coach for small interviews, quick answers... But if you dont have the intelligence for tha 3rd 4th sub questions... you'll just get killed there...

and you picked up that she was intelligent from that? pfffftttt

cmon dude....people talk about that shit all the time....ive never once debated that topic with someone and at the end thought..."wow, that dude was smart".
and im sure that wasnt the first time she was asked those questions before.....especially when brittany keeps pumping the skank up a notch everday.
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01-29-2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by .:Frog:.
pink_in_the_middle - Just accept the fact that people have different opinions.

You think everyone is beautiful, fuzzy and nice. Super!

Other people don't share your view. Instead of insulting people who disagree with you, just move on.
Or as they say, agree to disagree.

I don't think Pink was saying SHE thinks EVERYONE is beautiful...but that EVERYONE is BEAUTIFUL to SOMEONE. It may not be me, her or you...but for SOMEONE in the world...someone else out there...will at some point think they are beautiful, whether it be physical, emotional, or some other way.

I whole heartedly agree with that, also.
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01-29-2003, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by jammyjenkins

Example?

I can't believe that would work on the majority, or even more than once.

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i guess you didnt watch george w and his state of the union address
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01-29-2003, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by jammyjenkins

Is the book just trying to upsell you into scientology?

Pick up a copy and read it, my opinion is not needed.

Hard to knock things when you havent read them, after you read it we can discuss it.

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01-29-2003, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

You can also be coached for large, "deep" interviews. For instance, there are courses for politicians in "How to come over as saying a lot while you're actually saying nothing". (No, really, it's true)

EXACTLY... you just said it... saying alot while telling nothing...
Fool alot of people, yes... but I think I can noticed it when it happens...
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01-29-2003, 12:22 PM

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Who are YOU to judge anyone??

Number 2. How do you know she never worked outside of the music industry???

Number 3. Do you think all these singers have everything handed to them on a silver platter??? And why??

Number 4. You have no clue as to what you speak.

Correction: you're not mean you're just uneducated

I think you're hurt because you know that you too are not beautifuil.

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01-29-2003, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Pick up a copy and read it, my opinion is not needed.

Hard to knock things when you havent read them, after you read it we can discuss it.

I haven't knocked anything.

I'm just asking for facts. Does it upsell scientology?
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01-29-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by BigFrog

lmao
i guess you didnt watch george w and his state of the union address

nope

it sounds like you didn't fall for it, so I'm just wondering who might.

Politicians often try to speak in vague generalities without committing to anything. But it's wearing thin, and people can see through it.
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01-29-2003, 12:25 PM

"I think everybody should have a great Wonderbra. There's so many ways to enhance them, everybody does it." - Christina Aguilera

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01-29-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

EXACTLY... you just said it... saying alot while telling nothing...
Fool alot of people, yes... but I think I can noticed it when it happens...

Most of the people can't. There are certain things which always come over as good, certain phrases even. One can quite easily learn how to sound intelligent, how to persuade people, how to impress people, etc.

If you want an example, just think of the greek sophists.

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01-29-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by fuxu

I think you're hurt because you know that you too are not beautifuil.

Dude, have you seen her pics...? (pink in the middle)
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01-29-2003, 12:27 PM

"I'm an ocean, because I'm really deep. If you search deep enough you can find rare exotic treasures." - Christina Aguilera

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01-29-2003, 12:27 PM

You have a pre set thing against Scientology, so you have knocked it before reading it.

I dont know why you think its an 'upsell' since when is a book an upsell?

Its a book, with pages of info on the mind and the reactive mind as well as the Analytical Mind.

Its a book, read it, THEN we can discuss it.

There is no 'upsell' its just a book.

if by upsell you mean its based on certain aspects of Scientology, then yeah its got Scientology embedded in it, L Ron wrote it, but they are different things, you should read it. But you are already against Scientology, so you are set in your opinion.

I dont consider myself a Scientologist, but I know the doctrine, and that is what makes it worth learning.

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01-29-2003, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by BigFrog
If you search deep enough you can find rare exotic treasures.

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01-29-2003, 12:28 PM

"I'm not really religious but very spiritual. I give money to this company that manufactures hearing aids on a regular basis. More people should really hear me sing. I have a gift from God." - Christina Aguilera

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01-29-2003, 12:30 PM

"So, where's the Cannes Film Festival being held this year?" - Christina Aguilera

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01-29-2003, 12:32 PM

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You have a pre set thing against Scientology, so you have knocked it before reading it.

I have no interest in scientology.

I do however have an interest in how they market.

They're successful, so if nothing else I can learn from their examples.

I dont know why you think its an 'upsell' since when is a book an upsell?

Books are often "front end" products for a whole range of related products and services.

Most information products do this.

Within the books there are upsells to more expensive products and services.

Its a book, with pages of info on the mind and the reactive mind as well as the Analytical Mind.

Its a book, read it, THEN we can discuss it.

I have no interest in discussing the book.

The subject doesn't interest me.

The marketing methods do.

if by upsell you mean its based on certain aspects of Scientology, then yeah its got Scientology embedded in it, L Ron wrote it, but they are different things, you should read it. But you are already against Scientology, so you are set in your opinion.

Whereas you seem pro scientology, so perhaps you're biased in the other direction.

I dont consider myself a Scientologist, but I know the doctrine, and that is what makes it worth learning.

To know is to be prepared.

prepared for what?

I've read a lot about scientology.

And it ain't pretty.

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01-29-2003, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

hehe, who are your trying to impress here with the big words..?

How the brain work is to summerize it...
observation, Anylse follow by logic judgement(which is a proccess in itself... associations, theories, etc..)

My point earlier is your knowledge on Economics, politics... is not a sign of superior intelligence ....
You can talk about sport , music and show high degree of intelligence...

Big words?? Ehm... whatever.

And you are now claiming you know how the brain works?! It's a mystery to the whole of mankind, yet <b>you</b> know it? Sure...

You say intelligence can also be shown when talking about "light" subjects. However, when talking about "light" subjects common sense, not intelligence is what usually is used. Since high intelligence requires the recognition of meta-patterns, even light subjects will eventually be linked to deeper, more encompassing subjects.

PS. I wasn't talking about economics. The German expressionists in the 1920's were a cultural movement primarily invloved in literature, with writers such as Brecht and Jahn.

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01-29-2003, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Most of the people can't. There are certain things which always come over as good, certain phrases even. One can quite easily learn how to sound intelligent, how to persuade people, how to impress people, etc.

If you want an example, just think of the greek sophists.

And where's Britney Spears Coaches then..?
I have never seen her said something really intelligent!?
And include dozen of other stars in it too...
They dont have someone preparing them...?

Look Punkworld... you know like me that you'll see once in a while intelligent pop singers... why the automatic hate, why the need for a conspiracy behind it...?

Anyhow.... got to go the the gym now... make myself a cut body ... since the society as told the girls that this is what they need to like.... Can you believe that... complete brainwash...!
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01-29-2003, 12:38 PM

I care not to argue Jammy.

Until you read something its hard to base an opinion.

You say you've read 'a lot about Scientology' yet you never read their books.

You read another persons opinion on something and then form your own.

I am not 'pro-scientology'

I am 'pro-tolerance' for outside beliefs and literature, and use what I can from them.

There is a difference, anyway, Ill leave you to debate Christina - its lunch time here in California bruh.

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01-29-2003, 12:42 PM

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I care not to argue Jammy.

Not arguing. Having a (potentially) interesting conversation.

Until you read something its hard to base an opinion.

Once again I state -- I'm not interested in the subject.

You say you've read 'a lot about Scientology' yet you never read their books.

Read a lot online. As I said, it wasn't pretty.

You read another persons opinion on something and then form your own.

Yes?

I am not 'pro-scientology'

I am 'pro-tolerance' for outside beliefs and literature, and use what I can from them.

You can be tolerant, but it doesn't make something right.

I could be 'tolerant' of the KKK if I wanted to be. Doesn't exactly make the world a better place though.

There is a difference, anyway, Ill leave you to debate Christina - its lunch time here in California bruh.

enjoy

I'll love to continue this further.

You still didn't answer my question about the upselling though. That's all I was really looking for.
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01-29-2003, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

You say intelligence can also be shown when talking about "light" subjects. However, when talking about "light" subjects common sense, not intelligence is what usually is used. Since high intelligence requires the recognition of meta-patterns, even light subjects will eventually be linked to deeper, more encompassing subjects.

hehe, ok, you disagree... but then contradict yourself and agree... cool...

And by the way... you seem to reduce intellignence to a very specific category... Intelligence... is something very large... regrouping many aspects... categories... some more important than others... and common sens is one of them...
Emotional intelligence is another... street smart... , etc...
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01-29-2003, 12:44 PM

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And where's Britney Spears Coaches then..?
I have never seen her said something really intelligent!?
And include dozen of other stars in it too...
They dont have someone preparing them...?

Look Punkworld... you know like me that you'll see once in a while intelligent pop singers... why the automatic hate, why the need for a conspiracy behind it...?

Who's talking about a conspiracy? I'm talking about hypocrisy.

The facts:

1. The pop industry almost exclusively shows young, attractive people, thereby creating an atmosphere wherein people feel they aren't "normal" if they don't look like that. The signal this gives is, "It matters greatly what you look like".

2. A song that says "Everyone is beautiful" is in complete contradiction with this. The words aren't supported by the practice.

There's hypocrisy for ya.

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01-29-2003, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

hehe, ok, you disagree... but then contradict yourself and agree... cool...

And by the way... you seem to reduce intellignence to a very specific category... Intelligence... is something very large... regrouping many aspects... categories... some more important than others... and common sens is one of them...
Emotional intelligence is another... street smart... , etc...

Read again, I don't agree.

Edit: you include common sense in intelligence? Common sense is the most generally accepted view by society on a certain subject, and is determined by culture, learned through example.

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01-29-2003, 12:46 PM

This thread is about Christina... so for fuck's sake post some nice pics... like the new Maxim shoot of her...

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01-29-2003, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by Lexxx
This thread is about Christina... so for fuck's sake post some nice pics... like the new Maxim shoot of her...

yup, it's not like we haven't seen those pics 20 times already.
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01-29-2003, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Read again, I don't agree.

Edit: you include common sense in intelligence? Common sense is the most generally accepted view by society on a certain subject, and is determined by culture, learned through example.

yes you do... read again...
even with light subject.. you can reach deeper "problems/questions/dilema"

and you can talk about very complex politic issues and never use your brain ... for theories of your own....

Sorry now... got to go
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01-29-2003, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Read again, I don't agree.

Edit: you include common sense in intelligence? Common sense is the most generally accepted view by society on a certain subject, and is determined by culture, learned through example.

mmmh... lot of people view common sens as an equivalent to Logical.... and not the opinion of the majority....
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01-29-2003, 12:55 PM

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01-29-2003, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

yes you do... read again...
even with light subject.. you can reach deeper "problems/questions/dilema"

and you can talk about very complex politic issues and never use your brain ... for theories of your own....

Sorry now... got to go

I suggest you read it again.

I'm not saying "you can reach deeper *...", I'm saying "you will reach deeper * ...". If you are intelligent, that is. However, if you manage to avoid the deeper * and stick with the lighter *, that is a clear sign of something else than intelligence.

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01-29-2003, 12:58 PM

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mmmh... lot of people view common sens as an equivalent to Logical.... and not the opinion of the majority....

That's because most people see something as "logical" if it is something they have heard all their lives. Most people don't really understand the basic principles of logic.

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01-29-2003, 01:12 PM

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01-29-2003, 01:15 PM

I love that new tune...

"My name's Jenny and I've been around the block"

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01-29-2003, 03:03 PM

Right, so what did everyone decide on ?
Christina ? Slut or What ?
New song, Good or Not ?
Lyrics, Fair or vicious lies ?
Who won that full argument that went on (and was fun) ?
And Christina or Britney in porn first ?
Oh, and better post another pic

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01-29-2003, 05:28 PM

Thank you...

That Shakira pic made my day...

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01-30-2003, 01:33 AM

Christina: I would fuck her for fun

Britney: I would fuck her for fun also....

I can't understand why people would say these girls are Ugly... they aint... they are gorgeous!!!

And as for the new video........ I haven't seen it yet, I don't think I wanna see it!

But I do like her video for Dirrty!!! YUMMY!!!!!!!
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01-30-2003, 06:39 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scott McD
[B]Right, so what did everyone decide on ?
Christina ? Slut or What ?
New song, Good or Not ?
Lyrics, Fair or vicious lies ?
Who won that full argument that went on (and was fun) ?
And Christina or Britney in porn first ?
Oh, and better post another pic

Here's what I see. Christina is here for the long haul, and will evolve over time with new looks, style etc. much like Madonna did when she started out in the 80s. Christina, regardless of her sometimes slutty look, tattos, piercings and whatever else is talented. The girl has an incredible voice. She was one of the only acts I could even tolerate on the American Music Awards a few weeks ago, and she sang. No lip synching.
Britney, on the other hand, was totally manufactured because of her looks. She has no talent other than her looks and being able to follow a choreographer in her videos and on stage. She's getting older which is bad for her since her base audience is around 15. She doesn't have the talent or ability to endure a lengthy singing career.
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