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About Choker Traffic ...

01-28-2003, 07:57 PM

I know how alot of you feel about choker and how he is affecting the market, but if you can put this asside for a moment id like a logical answer from people who are experienced with his traffic.

I have and still do swear by his traffic, even after the situation im about to explain.

I havent bought much traffic from him because basically ive been broke, lol

Finally (with some help) i got my hands on another 100k and aimed it at this gallery:

http://www.pleasuredvds.com/gallerie...ne/choker.html

60k hits later and not a single signup! Even with 4k clickthroughs.

***I paused the remaining traffic to see if maybe its the gallery

From what i can see, these are the possibilities ...

A:
This gallery horribly sucks

B:
Chokers quality has gone down considerably

C:
The sponsor sucks and isnt converting

GloBill is showing near 4k clickthroughs, is that average for about 60k to a gallery? And isnt it odd that i have no signups with 4k clickthroughs?

I mean shit, ND is supposedly the most saturated sponsor, and i still do better than 1:4000 with them, lol

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01-28-2003, 07:59 PM

funny pic.

http://www.pleasuredvds.com/galleries/jasmine/009.html

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01-28-2003, 08:02 PM

lol fletch

seriously though, wtf is the problem?

answer this question atleast ...

looking at the Globill stats, whats with the 0:4000?

Is it bad tours? Traffic isnt ready to buy? Something else?

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01-28-2003, 08:02 PM

god thats an ugly gallery..

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01-28-2003, 08:02 PM

Not knocking Chocker at all but I think the "blind" link to the site off of the big picture will make your click through ratio higher than a person who "really" wants to continue to the site.

Not knocking, just my
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01-28-2003, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
funny pic.

http://www.pleasuredvds.com/galleries/jasmine/009.html

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01-28-2003, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by wouncie
Not knocking Chocker at all but I think the "blind" link to the site off of the big picture will make your click through ratio higher than a person who "really" wants to continue to the site.

Not knocking, just my

Ok true, i hadnt thought of that. Good point.

So now swaying away from the 4k clickthrough, no signups with 60k? Seems high to me, especially using chokers traffic who has always converted for me in past.

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01-28-2003, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
A:
This gallery horribly sucks

B:
Chokers quality has gone down considerably

C:
The sponsor sucks and isnt converting

Any ideas?

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01-28-2003, 08:07 PM

is there a way for you to see how many click that 'next best thing' gallery spots link.

look at all the good free porn they get when they do.

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01-28-2003, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by toodamnfli
god thats an ugly gallery..

is it really that bad?

not being sarcastic, just looking for opinions.

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01-28-2003, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

is it really that bad?

not being sarcastic, just looking for opinions.

dude WTF
all your big pics are more stretched than jenna jameson's pussy lips
How the fuck do you expect this to convert?

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01-28-2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Dildozer

dude WTF
all your big pics are more stretched than jenna jameson's pussy lips
How the fuck do you expect this to convert?

Well its actually only 3, but would that affect the performance of the entire gallery?

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01-28-2003, 08:21 PM

choker's traffic to galleries is better than blind as it's catigorized to the particular niche you're trying to sell to.

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01-28-2003, 08:22 PM

change to a sponsor who you have a better appreciation of reasonable conversions.

Have Asian Language Traffic?
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01-28-2003, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream
choker's traffic to galleries is better than blind as it's catigorized to the particular niche you're trying to sell to.

Exactly what i thought, which is why i posted this thread.

How can i have 60k to the gallery, 4k to the sponsor and not a single signup?

Im trying to find the problem before i release the remaining 40k hits im owed.

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01-28-2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

Exactly what i thought, which is why i posted this thread.

How can i have 60k to the gallery, 4k to the sponsor and not a single signup?

Im trying to find the problem before i release the remaining 40k hits im owed.

the sample you're talkign about is too small to be stistically significant.
could be a glitch with the cc processor, bad gallery, or just bad luck.

if you sent 100,000 hits from galleries to a sponser over say 2 weeks then I'd be a little more worried.

chokers system does inflate the amount of traffic to a sponser, you probally will get a couple more sales from it but I would bet money the ratio would be WORSE though. in the end you're probally ahead with how he sets it up.

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01-28-2003, 08:27 PM

I have three links on just the main gallery page of this gallery http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/tgp...ess/bbwgod.htm and I was getting 1,000+ clickthroughs a day just on my main site..I didn't even really check the others really but I was getting over 500 a day on the dominican link on there...I didn't track the other one at all....I was buying from him for four months straight and I took almost a two month hiatus from him to try other paid traffic sources.

So that means that I was getting at LEAST 1,500-1,800 clicks a day just off of the front gallery page. The clicks off of the big pictures within the gallery were negligible. I'd get maybe 50 a day total off of all the pics.

I've tried other paid traffic sources and so far, choker is the best deal in town. On the 1st of Feb., I'll be buying around 500,000 gallery hits on that same old gallery and I'll be watching my wallet fatten.

If my non-designing ass can get over 1,500 clickthroughs a day on that amateurish gallery and still make a profit EVERYTIME I buy choker's traffic, and you can't, then I can't help ya..cause it's like taking candy from a baby.

The only thing I have left to try that is worth anything is Cybercat. I'll give that a whirl in a few months.

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01-28-2003, 08:35 PM

Well-

I run a tgp and submit to tgp's everyday...I have pretty good success usually 2-10 signups, depends on luck, and the gallery, sometimes you get a great listing.

1. The guys that I see doing well, day in and day out, are the guys who "talk to the surfer"...out of the 600 submissions I get a day, about ten have got it down. Your generic..."100,000 pics and downloadable mpegs"....surfers just ignore that stupid language.

One guy that does well, usually starts every gallery by addressing the surfer as "cheap mooching bastards, that ain't never seen no good porn, or else you wouldn't have your mope ass dragging around this one"....funnier than hell, some of you may recognize who it is....but he is good. I am sure tha the sells.

2. You haven't done anything one this gallery to set yourself apart, the colors are right out of the Sears catalogue, the girl is cute...but you don't exploit that, you keep dragging on with drivel that everyone has read....ask them if "they wanna party all night with this slut" or whatever your style is.

3. You might trying a smalller niche, that amateur/teen thing is totally saturated and I don't see allot of success with any of it. Find a nice niche, like old ladies. We have a guy on my homeboard that is a well know webmaster, and his motto is OLD LADIES RULE!...he also makes a great living, because he is niche oriented. Find one you like and figure it out.

Really, with the right pitch, anyone can be sold, but getting the pitch righ tis the secret.

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01-28-2003, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by letshunt
Well-

I run a tgp and submit to tgp's everyday...I have pretty good success usually 2-10 signups, depends on luck, and the gallery, sometimes you get a great listing.

1. The guys that I see doing well, day in and day out, are the guys who "talk to the surfer"...out of the 600 submissions I get a day, about ten have got it down. Your generic..."100,000 pics and downloadable mpegs"....surfers just ignore that stupid language.

One guy that does well, usually starts every gallery by addressing the surfer as "cheap mooching bastards, that ain't never seen no good porn, or else you wouldn't have your mope ass dragging around this one"....funnier than hell, some of you may recognize who it is....but he is good. I am sure tha the sells.

2. You haven't done anything one this gallery to set yourself apart, the colors are right out of the Sears catalogue, the girl is cute...but you don't exploit that, you keep dragging on with drivel that everyone has read....ask them if "they wanna party all night with this slut" or whatever your style is.

3. You might trying a smalller niche, that amateur/teen thing is totally saturated and I don't see allot of success with any of it. Find a nice niche, like old ladies. We have a guy on my homeboard that is a well know webmaster, and his motto is OLD LADIES RULE!...he also makes a great living, because he is niche oriented. Find one you like and figure it out.

Really, with the right pitch, anyone can be sold, but getting the pitch righ tis the secret.

I feel like you're making fun of me.

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01-28-2003, 08:44 PM

Theres a good discussion on the traffic here:

http://www.chickenboard.com/read.php?f=6&i=3445&t=3445

You have to read more than one post to get to it.

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01-28-2003, 08:44 PM

Sleazydream-

I would never make fun of you....

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01-28-2003, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

is it really that bad?

not being sarcastic, just looking for opinions.

It's just shit. I'd be happy with 1:60K for a gallery of that calibre.
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01-28-2003, 08:50 PM

His sponsor doesnt seem to offer a trial could this affect sales for him? (I think i know the answer to that)
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01-28-2003, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by letshunt
Sleazydream-

I would never make fun of you....

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01-29-2003, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Theres a good discussion on the traffic here:

http://www.chickenboard.com/read.php?f=6&i=3445&t=3445

You have to read more than one post to get to it.

WOW! Stocktrader23, good find! I should pay more attention to that board, thanks for pointing it out.

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01-29-2003, 08:14 AM

Choker
If I pay you $500 per 1 mill to galleries, and charge $650 for a buyer to buy that gallery traffic, where is my profit margin?

Umm...am I missing something - isn't that a 30% margin? Not bad for just brokering traffic.

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01-29-2003, 08:17 AM

if you had a hairy girl, shemale, hentai, bondage
gallery you would probably had 4-7 sales by now

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01-29-2003, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by letshunt

1. The guys that I see doing well, day in and day out, are the guys who "talk to the surfer"...out of the 600 submissions I get a day, about ten have got it down. Your generic..."100,000 pics and downloadable mpegs"....surfers just ignore that stupid language.

This is so true, I never got many signups. I always got 1:2000 ratio's with many sponsors. I was just giving away free porn without trying to sell

But then I saw the light and decided to add more text to make the surfer horny and to drive him into to the paysite. And even though clickthroughs went lower, signups went much better
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01-29-2003, 08:23 AM

I ran http://freepornstarpics.net/clean/index.html

and came up completely dry.

I sent 50k to that gallery, and not 1 signup 3500 clickthroughs on the banner, 0:3500

oh well, maybe next time

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