Dude, this is a walk in the park for us like whoa-ers...
Stop crying!
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Originally posted by nuclei Your sites may not slow down, but you ARE affected by loss of traffic due to surfers not being able to get from point A to yer sites.
my only concern is people not being able to view MY site. if they are on the uunet backbone, hey hey! they probably cant view ANY websites, so i'm not damaged one bit. the concern should not be for the traffic, but for the sites. possibly any site on the uunet backbone is affected, and other backbone's traffic cannot view the affected sites. so weigh it out.
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my only concern is people not being able to view MY site. if they are on the uunet backbone, hey hey! they probably cant view ANY websites, so i'm not damaged one bit. the concern should not be for the traffic, but for the sites. possibly any site on the uunet backbone is affected, and other backbone's traffic cannot view the affected sites. so weigh it out.
not quite.
if you operate a paysite, any paying members affected by this are going to be hugely pissed. as far as new signups go, instead of my usual Y signups/hour, i'm getting Y*0.5. most advertising costs remain the same as well (regardless of internet uptime).
if you operate a paysite, any paying members affected by this are going to be hugely pissed. as far as new signups go, instead of my usual Y signups/hour, i'm getting Y*0.5. most advertising costs remain the same as well (regardless of internet uptime).
sucks all around.
true but whats the point in stressing over things we can't possibly change. if you have pissed off members add on a couple extra days to their memberships, sure extra days for free costs you but in the long run it will pay off...blah blah blah
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true but whats the point in stressing over things we can't possibly change. if you have pissed off members add on a couple extra days to their memberships, sure extra days for free costs you but in the long run it will pay off...blah blah blah
who's stressed? but adding a couple days to a membership will not even things out lol.
You have to keep in mind the collectors for that neato little graph can very easily skew the results.
The effects seem to vary widely. While we've only seen ~2mbit/sec traffic at most from the worm (we filtered it on the border routers immediately), others are seeing much, much, more. ISP's that have any microsoft customers at all were very badly hit both from incoming attempts, and the 50-90mbit/sec the infected servers were pushing outbound.
I've seen level3 circuits down, uunet, cogent, etc. It just depends on the location and traffic distribution of their customers. All unix bigass hosting shops like isprime were not effected a ton compared to others because they don't have much (any) windows stuff, and were able to block immediately without it burning up their routers. I'd hate to be a big dedicated provider right now that provides unmanaged microsoft servers.. Colleges (umich is maxing out their oc12 right now, 600mbit up about 400mbit from normal traffic), cable companies, and just end-user/office ISP's are getting nailed and thus your traffic is dropping.
For us, we were fine at our ingress points. The problems we had were with our upstreams way up the line (he.net seemed to get really bad in san jose for a while, so we routed all traffic over our other stuff during the meantime), which are a lot harder to control. Other ISP's that control a lot more end-user type stuff were seeing 100% more traffic (i.e. a provider went from 300mbit to over 650mbit within an hour and stayed there), so since most big ISP's tend to have a fairly even distribution of both content providers and eyeballs, many hosting shops that buy from them were badly effected. I know one of our upstreams had to down about 3 provider circuits and fall back to the remaining two just because the others were sucking so bad.
In short, everyone is effected. Some more than others due to just the nature of traffic distribution and your location in relation to it, and also stupid script kiddie code that wasn't done quite right.
So maybe all this is why I'm seeing this when submitting to The Hun?
Checking blacklist...
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Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Host 'powerapp1.bteg.net' is blocked because of many connection errors. Unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts' in /htdocs/www.thehun.net/common/php/cdatabase.php on line 24
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Doesn't appear on the blacklist
You have to keep in mind the collectors for that neato little graph can very easily skew the results.
The effects seem to vary widely. While we've only seen ~2mbit/sec traffic at most from the worm (we filtered it on the border routers immediately), others are seeing much, much, more. ISP's that have any microsoft customers at all were very badly hit both from incoming attempts, and the 50-90mbit/sec the infected servers were pushing outbound.
I've seen level3 circuits down, uunet, cogent, etc. It just depends on the location and traffic distribution of their customers. All unix bigass hosting shops like isprime were not effected a ton compared to others because they don't have much (any) windows stuff, and were able to block immediately without it burning up their routers. I'd hate to be a big dedicated provider right now that provides unmanaged microsoft servers.. Colleges (umich is maxing out their oc12 right now, 600mbit up about 400mbit from normal traffic), cable companies, and just end-user/office ISP's are getting nailed and thus your traffic is dropping.
For us, we were fine at our ingress points. The problems we had were with our upstreams way up the line (he.net seemed to get really bad in san jose for a while, so we routed all traffic over our other stuff during the meantime), which are a lot harder to control. Other ISP's that control a lot more end-user type stuff were seeing 100% more traffic (i.e. a provider went from 300mbit to over 650mbit within an hour and stayed there), so since most big ISP's tend to have a fairly even distribution of both content providers and eyeballs, many hosting shops that buy from them were badly effected. I know one of our upstreams had to down about 3 provider circuits and fall back to the remaining two just because the others were sucking so bad.
In short, everyone is effected. Some more than others due to just the nature of traffic distribution and your location in relation to it, and also stupid script kiddie code that wasn't done quite right.
I'm off to bed.
-Phil
thanks for the information, very useful! Well, either way, the internet is crapping down right now, I hope they have this problem fixed in the hours, would be great. I am not 100% on the idea of what they can do, or will do - probably going to take alot of work.
Are you saying that this isn't as widespread as it could be if there were more MS servers than FreeBSD or other UNIX servers?
I'm now taking bets on when this will clear up. Place your bets on:
Next hour
2 to 4 hours
4 to 8 hours
8 to 12 hours
12 to 16 hours
16 to 20 hours
20 to 24 hours
I am betting $20.00 on 2 to 4. The bets will be distributed evenly across the winners!
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This should be somewhat similiar to code red, etc.
So basically the major backbones will have things cleared up pretty quick, probably mostly allready done.
But the residual will be around a while, with effects probably felt until monday when the bulk of ISP's start shutting folk down that are spewing, etc.
thanks for the information, very useful! Well, either way, the internet is crapping down right now, I hope they have this problem fixed in the hours, would be great. I am not 100% on the idea of what they can do, or will do - probably going to take alot of work.
Are you saying that this isn't as widespread as it could be if there were more MS servers than FreeBSD or other UNIX servers?
I'm now taking bets on when this will clear up. Place your bets on:
Next hour
2 to 4 hours
4 to 8 hours
8 to 12 hours
12 to 16 hours
16 to 20 hours
20 to 24 hours
I am betting $20.00 on 2 to 4. The bets will be distributed evenly across the winners!
It's not debilitating," said Howard Schmidt, one of President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s top cyber-security advisers. "Everybody seems to be getting it under control."
Electronic attack slows Internet
'SQL' worm like 'Code Red,' but not as serious
Saturday, January 25, 2003 Posted: 8:49 AM EST (1349 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A fast-moving computer worm slowed down Internet access Saturday for about 22,000 servers, according to the Internet security firm Symantec
So another Microsoft exploit. The question is why is Microsoft hiring more salespeople to sell their easily hacked stuff when it should be banned from the net as a health hazard?
damn no change. looks like dude gets $20.00 if this goes longer than 24 hours
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Yippie. Microsoft makes vulnerable products, but even if you're smart enough not to use them, their incompetence can still affect you. Hmmm, class action lawsuit anyone?
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Originally posted by NetRodent Yippie. Microsoft makes vulnerable products, but even if you're smart enough not to use them, their incompetence can still affect you. Hmmm, class action lawsuit anyone?
Yeah, let's sue the bastards for all the unlicensed software we've copied, ripped off and installed from them over the years!
lol
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I was walking by a cell phone store to lunch and they had a sign out front that said: "Due to the world wide internet virus, all of out POS network is down"
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Originally posted by jimmy3way I was walking by a cell phone store to lunch and they had a sign out front that said: "Due to the world wide internet virus, all of out POS network is down"
By POS they mean Point Of Sale, not Piece Of Shit. LOL
Should take a picture, quite the funny picture!
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Still having problems today? Again, custumers bitching about the fucking speed ahhh
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