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01-24-2003, 06:53 PM

Many people feel that it's just bout the oil even during the Kuwaiti war,, maybe so, but many people do agree if the US didn't kick Iraq out of Kuwait then Iraq would of invaded other middle east countires,, saudi arabia was prolly next, study history people guess how WWII started? cause the whole world believed that germany didn't have any weapons

Thank you so much for helping to explain that just ignoring things may help prevent war for now, but eventually it will happen!

Ok, retarded person. First of all, I don't appreciate you calling this "bullshit". So far, you have been the only one here giving flawed information continuously.

Now correct me if I am wrong but I dont see anywhere in there anythign saying the US has refused to comply???

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01-24-2003, 06:53 PM

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I guess America is the only country in the world that uses oil?

once again, please do some reading on this stuff

America uses up 25% of the worlds oil supply....1 single country, using 1/4th of the worlds oil. That should answer your question.

anyways, I have some work to do now. God bless america, and I hope Bush doesnt do as much damage as I think he will do to this country.
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01-24-2003, 06:54 PM

And the other 75% of the oil? I suppose those countries wouldnt have a problem paying 5 dollars a gallon for gas? You have yet to make one rational statement.

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01-24-2003, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

Now correct me if I am wrong but I dont see anywhere in there anythign saying the US has refused to comply???

I said "do some research on the recent problems with it".

Edit: Ofcourse there isn't anything in that saying the US have refused to comply in it. It's isn't a bloody news story you moron, it's a convention.

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01-24-2003, 06:57 PM

No thanks. Not going to waste my time looking for some BULLSHIT. I doubt highly that the US would refuse to comply. And if you have a link to anything stating that they did refuse to comply please post it, but I am not going on a wild goose chase.

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01-24-2003, 06:58 PM

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I notice that no one can tell me why if they had no weapons they didnt comply last time. Also, no one seems to have anything to say about Iguanas point that Vietnam and Korea didnt have anything to offer us. And we helped them also.

If memory serves correctly, the majority of Amercia regretted Vietnam after the fact. I don't know much about the whole Korea campaign so I won't say anything abou that.

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01-24-2003, 06:59 PM

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Tell me how the USA helped Vietnam again?

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01-24-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by ab1183
No thanks. Not going to waste my time looking for some BULLSHIT. I doubt highly that the US would refuse to comply. And if you have a link to anything stating that they did refuse to comply please post it, but I am not going on a wild goose chase.

Yeah, the thought of learning something actually true must be scary for the likes of you. Dimwit.

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01-24-2003, 07:01 PM

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And the other 75% of the oil? I suppose those countries wouldnt have a problem paying 5 dollars a gallon for gas? You have yet to make one rational statement.

dude, you are hopeless. Is anyone listening to this fool? hahah

look, I will spell it out for you kid....
1 country using 25% of worlds oil
150+ countires using the other 75%(meaning each country uses less than 1%)

so that would mean the U.S, compared to any other country has a huge interest in oil...This is really elementary stuff bro, you REALLY should know this.
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01-24-2003, 07:02 PM

If memory serves correctly, the majority of Amercia regretted Vietnam after the fact. I don't know much about the whole Korea campaign so I won't say anything abou that.

I would have to disagree. I wasnt around for that stuff, but from what I have been told, most people regret eh way we went about doing it. Not the fact that we did it. Most people I have talked to say that it was a good idea to help, but should have just bombed the place instead of fighting a war we couldnt win.

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01-24-2003, 07:04 PM

Yes the US has a huge interest in oil. But UK was involved in the Gulf war, as was France, Australia, Canada, just to name a few other countries. Why dont I hear anyone saying anything about them? Is it just so much easier to blame the big bad US?

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01-24-2003, 07:05 PM

also the Irony of it is that WWII might have been prevented if France took a stance to stop Hitler when they reoccupied the Rhineland,

and what does France do again today? LOL
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01-24-2003, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by ab1183
I would have to disagree. I wasnt around for that stuff, but from what I have been told, most people regret eh way we went about doing it. Not the fact that we did it. Most people I have talked to say that it was a good idea to help, but should have just bombed the place instead of fighting a war we couldnt win.

You talk to people not much smarter than yourself then.

"it was a good idea to help, but should have just bombed the place"

How exactly is bombing people helping them? Especially because of a civil war?

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01-24-2003, 07:07 PM

look, I will spell it out for you kid 1 country using 25% of worlds oil 150+ countires using the other 75%(meaning each country uses less than 1%)
so that would mean the U.S, compared to any other country has a huge interest in oil...This is really elementary stuff bro, you REALLY should know this

look, I will spell it out for you kid 1 country using 25% of worlds oil 150+ countires using the other 75%(meaning each country uses less than 1%)

I think what you meant to say was on average, each country uses less than 1%. Since I am sure that the UK uses more than 1% of all the oil. Elementary Kid...

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01-24-2003, 07:09 PM

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Reasons for war.

#1. Iraq was defeated on the field of battle and signed certain terms. Iraq has been in violation of those terms since they signed the terms in '91. The USA has demanded that those terms be complied with and that Iraq remain a defeated country.

#2. Iraq attempted to assasinate a former American President.

#3. Iraq has fired upon, almost daily, for almost 11 years, USA military forces.

#4. Iraq is believed to have, or are acquiring, or are attempting to acquire WMD's. The USA will not allow that.

#5. Iraq has, on multiple occassions called for Americans, to be killed where ever they are found. Thus they are a sworn enemy of the USA.

#6. Iraq is a strategic piece of real estate for future military operations against our enemies in the region, which number in the 100's of millions.

#7. Iraq is a strategic piece of real estate for its oil fields and for the surrounding oil fields, for as the worlds oil supplies dwindle the USA will be in a position to control the dwindling oil supplies for its use and the use of its European allies.

#8. A take over of Iraq sends a very powerful signal to the other countries in that area of the world that if they don't get their act together they will be next.

Any one of the reasons above is a reason for war. Any questions?

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01-24-2003, 07:09 PM

You talk to people not much smarter than yourself then.
"it was a good idea to help, but should have just bombed the place"
How exactly is bombing people helping them? Especially because of a civil war

Ah, gotta love a tree hugger. Bombing would have been better than losing all the americans we lost. It was proven that you cant go into another country and fight in the middle of the fucking jungle with them. There is no way we could beat them like that. That is why bombing them would have been better. And civil war and bombing have nothing to do with each other.

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01-24-2003, 07:11 PM

King, these tree huggers will tell you that they didnt fire on american troops today, didnt invade anyone today and didnt try to assasinate a president today so we should leave them alone until they do.

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01-24-2003, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by ab1183
Yes the US has a huge interest in oil. But UK was involved in the Gulf war, as was France, Australia, Canada, just to name a few other countries. Why dont I hear anyone saying anything about them? Is it just so much easier to blame the big bad US?

The Gulf war was a UN sanctioned response to the fact one of it's allies was attacked. The US likes to push it's weight around for a lot of things in other countries which is what gives it a bad reputation.

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01-24-2003, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

I would have to disagree. I wasnt around for that stuff, but from what I have been told, most people regret eh way we went about doing it. Not the fact that we did it. Most people I have talked to say that it was a good idea to help, but should have just bombed the place instead of fighting a war we couldnt win.

ahahah
okay, this has now taken a serious turn towards comedy
your saying that we should have just carpet bombed vietnam entirely instead, huh? LoL!
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01-24-2003, 07:14 PM

ahahah okay, this has now taken a serious turn towards comedy your saying that we should have just carpet bombed vietnam entirely instead, huh? LoL!

Nope, that isnt what I said. Tell me where you see me saying that.

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01-24-2003, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Apollo

The Gulf war was a UN sanctioned response to the fact one of it's allies was attacked. The US likes to push it's weight around for a lot of things in other countries which is what gives it a bad reputation.

well it's been said that Iraq wouldn't of stopped just in Kuwait
Saudi Arabia would of been next (why do you think they was so helpful during the war) , even possibly take over the entire middle east
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01-24-2003, 07:15 PM

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ahahah
okay, this has now taken a serious turn towards comedy
your saying that we should have just carpet bombed vietnam entirely instead, huh? LoL!

Well of course, why care about civilian lives or who gets killed when we can just wipe the enemy away with one blow and be home in time for supper....who cares if 80% of the people killed had nothing to do with the battles themselves.

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01-24-2003, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by ab1183
Ah, gotta love a tree hugger. Bombing would have been better than losing all the americans we lost. It was proven that you cant go into another country and fight in the middle of the fucking jungle with them. There is no way we could beat them like that. That is why bombing them would have been better. And civil war and bombing have nothing to do with each other.

Once again you prove your stupidity.
Just take a moment and think, and maybe - just maybe, considering your limited iq - you will see the point in question.

Also take this post in mind, and try and make the connection.

Originally posted by ab1183
King, these tree huggers will tell you that they didnt fire on american troops today, didnt invade anyone today and didnt try to assasinate a president today so we should leave them alone until they do.

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01-24-2003, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Apollo

Well of course, why care about civilian lives or who gets killed when we can just wipe the enemy away with one blow and be home in time for supper....who cares if 80% of the people killed had nothing to do with the battles themselves.

LoL...I am starting to think that this guy is some sort of a boneprone charachtor or something....No can be this moronic for real, can they?
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01-24-2003, 07:17 PM

Well of course, why care about civilian lives or who gets killed when we can just wipe the enemy away with one blow and be home in time for supper....who cares if 80% of the people killed had nothing to do with the battles themselves.

Kind of like the 100% of the people that died on sept 11 being innocent?

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01-24-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

Punk, I trully believe this kid suffers from some sort of mental retardation. Too funny.
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01-24-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by playa

well it's been said that Iraq wouldn't of stopped just in Kuwait
Saudi Arabia would of been next (why do you think they was so helpful during the war) , even possibly take over the entire middle east

That I'm not so certain of....but definately it could have been a possibility. One of the big things to bring the timeline back to the present is many UN countries feature the same thing in regards to the US. No one wants any country (regardless of the intentions) to be able to dictate world policy and overthrow the government of anyone who disagrees with them or pisses them off. It's why many UN countries have started claiming to be entirely against the US' pending incursion into Iraq....the line needs to be drawn somewhere and a number of countries are drawing the line here.

Since no one else has said it yet I suppose I should

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01-24-2003, 07:19 PM

Once again you prove your stupidity.
Just take a moment and think, and maybe - just maybe, considering your limited iq - you will see the point in question.

Also take this post in mind, and try and make the connection.

That is what you have been saying the whole time. "They did that 10 years ago, not now" but then I say something about that and that means I have a limited IQ?

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01-24-2003, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

Kind of like the 100% of the people that died on sept 11 being innocent?

So, what you are suggesting is that it actually was a good thing, what they did there?

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01-24-2003, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

Kind of like the 100% of the people that died on sept 11 being innocent?

Oh, so now you're saying the US should fight dirty too? Well then what separates you from the bad guys?

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01-24-2003, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

That is what you have been saying the whole time. "They did that 10 years ago, not now" but then I say something about that and that means I have a limited IQ?

Once again you completely miss the point in question, and even the topic at hand.

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01-24-2003, 07:22 PM

Oh, so now you're saying the US should fight dirty too? Well then what separates you from the bad guys?

So, what you are suggesting is that it actually was a good thing, what they did there?

What I am saying is that you shouldnt go around bitching about innocent people getting killed because of the US when you fail to mention the innocent people that were killed in the US

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01-24-2003, 07:23 PM

Once again you completely miss the point in question, and even the topic at hand.

No, not at all.

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01-24-2003, 07:25 PM

No one wants any country (regardless of the intentions) to be able to dictate world policy and overthrow the government of anyone who disagrees with them or pisses them off.

Pissing someone off and being a threat to world stability and especially stability in the middle east are two totally different things.

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01-24-2003, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

No, not at all.

If ignorance is bliss, you must have a great life.

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01-24-2003, 07:28 PM

If ignorance is bliss, you must have a great life.

Talk about me missing the point and even the topic at hand? I would ask what this has to do with the topic at hand? Nothing, simply an attempt at insulting me. So now when I say you are missing the point you will just say that I am still missing the point and continue to post insults, feel free. Since it appears that all you tree huggers are content to let Saddam do whatever he damn well pleases.

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01-24-2003, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

What I am saying is that you shouldnt go around bitching about innocent people getting killed because of the US when you fail to mention the innocent people that were killed in the US

Actually, you are completely right.
When an Iraqi guy shoots your parents, you shouldn't go around bitching when you fail to mention the innocent people killed in Iraq.

That's what you're saying, right?

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01-24-2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

Pissing someone off and being a threat to world stability and especially stability in the middle east are two totally different things.

hahahaha. You seriously don't think the US has never pushed another country into economic decline or forced them to make concessions because of a personal grudge or just to better their own interests do you?

Man Canada got fucked over big time with NAFTA, our dollar dropped faster than the stock brokers out of their windows. But we were forced into it because the US threatened to break off several major import agreements with Canada if we didn't comply....just as an example. The US uses money and threats of power to get many countries to do what they want. I'm not saying that I blame the US for doing what it does....I'm just saying there's no way the US is doing the whole Iraq thing for the good of humanity...the US government is a business like any other...and will only do things in their best interest...whatever that may be

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01-24-2003, 07:33 PM

Actually, you are completely right.
When an Iraqi guy shoots your parents, you shouldn't go around bitching when you fail to mention the innocent people killed in Iraq.

I dont give a damn about the people in Iraq for one reason. If they support this man then I deem them no better than him. If they dont support him then they shouldnt be there. If someone dies and they do not support that idiot, I do feel bad for them and there family.

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01-24-2003, 07:36 PM

I'm not saying that I blame the US for doing what it does....I'm just saying there's no way the US is doing the whole Iraq thing for the good of humanity...the US government is a business like any other...and will only do things in their best interest...whatever that may be

And I agree that it may partially be about oil. There is no doubt about it, but IMO it has much more to do with humanity.

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01-24-2003, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

Talk about me missing the point and even the topic at hand? I would ask what this has to do with the topic at hand? Nothing, simply an attempt at insulting me. So now when I say you are missing the point you will just say that I am still missing the point and continue to post insults, feel free. Since it appears that all you tree huggers are content to let Saddam do whatever he damn well pleases.

Well, considering the fact that what I said was a reply to what you said about Vietnam, talking about me supposedly saying "They did that 10 years ago, not now" (concerning Iraq) is pretty much missing the point. Especially because I didn't say that, or anything related to that.
So, you missed the point, the topic, and even the right quote. Yes, I really think you are retarded.

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01-24-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by Apollo

the US government is a business like any other...and will only do things in their best interest...whatever that may be

agreed,
but it's not wrong aslong as we be the "The Good Guys"
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01-24-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

I dont give a damn about the people in Iraq for one reason. If they support this man then I deem them no better than him. If they dont support him then they shouldnt be there. If someone dies and they do not support that idiot, I do feel bad for them and there family.

What an amazingly simplistic view of the world you have.

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01-24-2003, 07:39 PM

good gawd.

And I though Bush was a moron.

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01-24-2003, 07:42 PM

Well, considering the fact that what I said was a reply to what you said about Vietnam, talking about me supposedly saying "They did that 10 years ago, not now" (concerning Iraq) is pretty much missing the point. Especially because I didn't say that, or anything related to that.

First of all, the 10 years ago thing wasnt about veitnam. It was in reference to #1 on that list. And I said the tree huggers will say that. Talking about Meta saying

What happened 10 years ago has NO relavance now. Show me the proof now, or I will say it's about oil. Simple as that. You disagree? fine. show me some proof please.

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01-24-2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by ab1183

I dont give a damn about the people in Iraq for one reason. If they support this man then I deem them no better than him. If they dont support him then they shouldnt be there. If someone dies and they do not support that idiot, I do feel bad for them and there family.

Right, so you're saying that a person living in an oppressed society by a dictator should just get up and leave the country otherwise they support that government? And what happens if they can't find a country willing to accept refugees...what then...sleep on a boat in international waters...and if you're poor how are you going to move? It's a long walk from Iraq to Pakistan. Hell half the population of Iraq probably has no idea what's going on and only being fed Iraqi propoganda the same way that's all the US gets...the difference is we won't get shot for voicing our opinions against the government.

But going back to my initial point by your definition that living in the country supports the government, September 11th was completely acceptable because everyone in the US support everything the US government does, and if they didn't they should have left the country....the fact they were at work that day proves they supported the US governemtn and everything it does.

So whatever country the US pissed off, it is perfectly acceptable for that country to then randomly kill people in the US as retaliation for whatever the US did to them?

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01-24-2003, 07:44 PM

What an amazingly simplistic view of the world you have.

good gawd.

And I though Bush was a moron.

You people mean to tell me that you dont think that the people that support Saddam are just as bad as he is?

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01-24-2003, 07:48 PM

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You people mean to tell me that you dont think that the people that support Saddam are just as bad as he is?

No, the problem is you're saying people support them because they live in his country. You have no idea what it may be like there....it's not a free society...who is to say they even have the option of leaving the country

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01-24-2003, 07:49 PM

the difference is we won't get shot for voicing our opinions against the government.

Correct, and the fact that this happens in Iraq is reason enough to get Saddam out. Dont you think?

So whatever country the US pissed off, it is perfectly acceptable for that country to then randomly kill people in the US as retaliation for whatever the US did to them?

No. If the country is at war with the US and drops bombs and accidentally kills civilians, hey its war and it happens. What I was saying was if the US is at war with Iraq, and accidentally drops a bomb on a civilian traget, sorry. I guess I should have made myself clear. Didnt know we had 2 year olds in here that needed everything explained to them.

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01-24-2003, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by ab1183
First of all, the 10 years ago thing wasnt about veitnam. It was in reference to #1 on that list. And I said the tree huggers will say that. Talking about Meta saying

You said this in reply to my post which was still about the whole Vietnam thing:

Originally posted by ab1183
That is what you have been saying the whole time. "They did that 10 years ago, not now" but then I say something about that and that means I have a limited IQ?

And yes, you do have a limited IQ.

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