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  • Fletch XXX
    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
    • Jan 2002
    • 60840

    #51
    As it is Friday though, sorry time to go hit a punk bar and have Heinekens and hook up with my friends.

    Later guys.

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    Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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    • Jizzman
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2001
      • 379

      #52
      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
      Topic: Ripped off by Choker

      Your title doesn't reflect the situation. Personally I wouldn't like any business association/dealing with someone jumping on a webmaster's bbs like this without having the patience to wait.
      You are correct, I should have put a question mark at the end of that sentence.

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      • magnatique
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2001
        • 1830

        #53
        Originally posted by NoCarrier


        Well, if you can't handle that kind of issues because you don't have time, hire someone to take care of it of just don't offer the service. This kind of professional approach isn't going to help him. Look at the results. When dealing with money and strangers, you have to DEAL with it. The "I am to busy" excuse is unacceptable for someone into any kind of business.
        NoCarrier, I'm handling my business with people well, than you very much

        I'm just saying things happens sometimes... and the boards, calling someone a rip-off is not always the right way...

        I'm always going out of my way to please webmasters, and we are always available... I was just saying to use all options

        even though sometimes I'm not on icq or not checking emails, emergencys are always dealt with when I am aware of them, and we have a phone in our office too ;)

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        • DrGuile
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2002
          • 2025

          #54
          - Is this about me?

          - no

          - than Ive lost interest...


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          • Amputate Your Head
            There can be only one
            • Aug 2001
            • 39075

            #55
            Originally posted by DrinkingHard
            50 bitch!

            DH
            won't be in a minute... prepare to be yanked back to #49 bizatch....
            SIG TOO BIG

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            • Theo
              HAL 9000
              • May 2001
              • 34515

              #56
              well i won't hide that if i were in choker's position I would like more than anything to refund him and then beat him.

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              • Undutchable
                Registered User
                • Jun 2002
                • 2217

                #57
                Jizzman, I haven't seen you on ICQ yet so here goes:

                http://chickentraffic.com/help/buytgptraffic.htm

                Scroll down a bit and you'll find instructions on how to correctly file an order. Choker will receive it, check it and you'll have traffic flowing within 24 hours.

                Good luck

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                • juicylinks
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 122992

                  #58
                  I just talked to choker he is busy prepping for my Bukkake Bash 2003 at the jacob javits convention center in march in NYC. He shot 2 gallons of love juice and he is exhausted . he is one of my best shooters.

                  He need to regain his energy

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                  • jhen
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 156

                    #59
                    I can understand you are frustrated.....but c'mon getting on and trashing someone so soon is a liitle much dont you think.....
                    jhen

                    How would you like One Wilshire behind your business

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                    • Theo
                      HAL 9000
                      • May 2001
                      • 34515

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Jizzman


                      You are correct, I should have put a question mark at the end of that sentence.
                      Actually you shouldn't have started the topic at all. At least not so fast. Anyway, I think if you wait some more Choker will take care of this problem.

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                      • Choker
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 9024

                        #61
                        ROFLMAO, How can I return a paypal I can't find? You claim you sent a paypal yet REFUSE to provide me the information about it. Posting this crap here is just gonna fuck you. I told you to charge it back that I can't find it. If you can't follow the simple instructions that every other webmaster can, then I can't help you. Let me repeat myself so you can understand ........ If you refuse to message me in the script the paypal information, I can't verify that you ever sent me a paypal. What is so hard for you to understand about that?? Let's see, I get 30 to 50 paypals a day, yet you are the only person who can't follow the instructions in your admin.
                        ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                        Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                        The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                        Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                        http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                        • marcu5
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1485

                          #62
                          SONNED.

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                          • Rich
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11486

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Jizzman


                            I was hoping for something similar around 10 am when he last messaged me and asked for paypal info. 7 hours later nothing, to me that says he has no intention of refunding me.
                            7 hours, are you fucking kidding me? Not ever program and service is required to provide 24/7 support. He doesn't claim to.

                            You sir are an assface, and this thread should be closed. That's the most serious acusation you can make about someone around here, and you make it after waiting 7 hours?



                            ban?

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                            • Rep
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 991

                              #64
                              settle it on icq, lock thread and burn it
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                              • Jizzman
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 379

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Choker
                                ROFLMAO, How can I return a paypal I can't find? You claim you sent a paypal yet REFUSE to provide me the information about it. Posting this crap here is just gonna fuck you. I told you to charge it back that I can't find it. If you can't follow the simple instructions that every other webmaster can, then I can't help you. Let me repeat myself so you can understand ........ If you refuse to message me in the script the paypal information, I can't verify that you ever sent me a paypal. What is so hard for you to understand about that?? Let's see, I get 30 to 50 paypals a day, yet you are the only person who can't follow the instructions in your admin.
                                huh? Ive sent you the info 2x via icq, whats preventing you from looking it up? Im not 'refusing' you...on icq you ask for paypal info, I send it immediately and then I dont hear from you.

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                                • Theo
                                  HAL 9000
                                  • May 2001
                                  • 34515

                                  #66
                                  local radio station playing:

                                  communication breakdown - led zeppelin

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                                  • juicylinks
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 122992

                                    #67
                                    Jizzman how well do you shoot? I am looking for more shooters for my Bukkake Bash

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                                    • Jizzman
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 379

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Rich


                                      7 hours, are you fucking kidding me? Not ever program and service is required to provide 24/7 support. He doesn't claim to.

                                      You sir are an assface, and this thread should be closed. That's the most serious acusation you can make about someone around here, and you make it after waiting 7 hours?



                                      ban?
                                      Judge and jury all in one eh

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                                      • GTS Mark
                                        Vrume Mark
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 20912

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Choker
                                        ROFLMAO, How can I return a paypal I can't find? You claim you sent a paypal yet REFUSE to provide me the information about it. Posting this crap here is just gonna fuck you. I told you to charge it back that I can't find it. If you can't follow the simple instructions that every other webmaster can, then I can't help you. Let me repeat myself so you can understand ........ If you refuse to message me in the script the paypal information, I can't verify that you ever sent me a paypal. What is so hard for you to understand about that?? Let's see, I get 30 to 50 paypals a day, yet you are the only person who can't follow the instructions in your admin.
                                        Wow and this is the way you treat your clients? And Jizzman has bought traffic from you before...

                                        Fuck I'm glad I never bought traffic from you. I just signed up 2 days ago for an account but I guess I won't be needing it now.

                                        DH

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                                        • Jizzman
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 379

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by juicylinks
                                          Jizzman how well do you shoot? I am looking for more shooters for my Bukkake Bash
                                          Not so good, sorry

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                                          • Jakke PNG
                                            ex-TeenGodFather
                                            • Nov 2001
                                            • 20306

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                            won't be in a minute... prepare to be yanked back to #49 bizatch....
                                            You mean, mean, man.
                                            ..and I'm off.

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                                            • GTS Mark
                                              Vrume Mark
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 20912

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                              won't be in a minute... prepare to be yanked back to #49 bizatch....
                                              I'll deal with you later fucker

                                              DH

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                                              • Choker
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 9024

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by DrinkingHard


                                                Wow and this is the way you treat your clients? And Jizzman has bought traffic from you before...

                                                Fuck I'm glad I never bought traffic from you. I just signed up 2 days ago for an account but I guess I won't be needing it now.

                                                DH
                                                Make a post on GFY accusing me off ripping you off and HELL YES this is the way you will be treated by me. Let's see, now everyone message me claiming they sent me a paypal, then REFUSE to send me the paypal info, then accuse me of ripping them off. Finally after 2 days of dealing with this idiot, he tells me his account name, guess how many messages he sent me in the script, NONE<NADA<NOT A SINGLE ONE. Does it say anywhere in my script to email me? NO, it say's to send a message in the script.
                                                ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                • Morphius
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 1005

                                                  #74
                                                  I had nothing, but good experience with choker.
                                                  Just stop wasting time on this board send him the info and get it over with.
                                                  I know if he owes you the money...you WILL get your refund. Just get the info to him.
                                                  Choker is a good, honest business man...he doesn't need bad reputation over $350.00

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                                                  • GTS Mark
                                                    Vrume Mark
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 20912

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Choker

                                                    Make a post on GFY accusing me off ripping you off and HELL YES this is the way you will be treated by me. Let's see, now everyone message me claiming they sent me a paypal, then REFUSE to send me the paypal info, then accuse me of ripping them off. Finally after 2 days of dealing with this idiot, he tells me his account name, guess how many messages he sent me in the script, NONE<NADA<NOT A SINGLE ONE. Does it say anywhere in my script to email me? NO, it say's to send a message in the script.
                                                    Well according to him you did rip him off. He sent you money for traffic, you accepted the payment. He never received any traffic... He in turn sent you the confirmation payment transactions to prove he sent you the money and you still sent him no traffic. In my book that is ripping a person off!

                                                    For christs sake the guy is a repeat client! You ever hear of the old saying it is easier to keep a customer then go find another one?

                                                    I know you have a lot of people sending you paypals and you're a busy guy but that doesn't give you a reason to take Jizzman's business any lighter. Damn if you're so busy and successful why don't you hire someone to help you with customer support?

                                                    DH

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                                                    • JustJen
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 1233

                                                      #76
                                                      Hey, Choker. I need to get in touch with you as soon as you have time. Please email me at [email protected] or icq 175766581. THANKS!!!!


                                                      icq:175766581

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                                                      • Jizzman
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 379

                                                        #77
                                                        Issue resolved. Choker has refunded me 100%

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                                                        • GTS Mark
                                                          Vrume Mark
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 20912

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Jizzman
                                                          Issue resolved. Choker has refunded me 100%
                                                          Excellent

                                                          DH

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                                                          • Choker
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 9024

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by DrinkingHard


                                                            Well according to him you did rip him off. He sent you money for traffic, you accepted the payment. He never received any traffic... He in turn sent you the confirmation payment transactions to prove he sent you the money and you still sent him no traffic. In my book that is ripping a person off!
                                                            DH
                                                            What part do you not understand......He REFUSED to message me the paypal info. How can I verify a paypal someone CLAIMS they made unless they send me the paypal info?

                                                            Everyday I deal with guys who have trouble following the instructions for buying traffic. But this guy takes the cake. Here's a icq from him just now

                                                            169754882 (4:37 PM) :
                                                            dont tell me you are actually keeping my $350?
                                                            Choker (6:32 PM) :
                                                            what is your account name please?
                                                            Krisened (6:47 PM) :
                                                            so what are we gonna do? Im open to suggestions?
                                                            Choker (6:47 PM) :
                                                            what is your account name
                                                            Choker (6:47 PM) :
                                                            what is your account name
                                                            Choker (6:47 PM) :
                                                            waht is your account name
                                                            Choker (6:48 PM) :
                                                            hello what is your account name in my script
                                                            Choker (6:48 PM) :
                                                            Isaid what is your account name in my script
                                                            Krisened (6:49 PM) :
                                                            jizzman
                                                            Choker (6:55 PM) :
                                                            you never once messaged me in the script, not one time
                                                            Krisened (6:55 PM) :
                                                            agreed I did not, I didnt know that I was supposed to, perhaps you could have told me that via icq
                                                            Choker (6:56 PM) :
                                                            how many times did I tell you to follow the instructions in the buy traffic links of your admin???
                                                            Krisened (6:57 PM) :
                                                            You sent me to that page with the paypal info on it several times
                                                            Choker (6:57 PM) :
                                                            and you can't follow the instructions on it?
                                                            Choker (6:57 PM) :
                                                            where in my script does it say to email me?
                                                            Krisened (6:58 PM) :
                                                            well when I started askig you you asked for my paypal info so I though you basically said fuck it and were going to send my money back then you ignored me
                                                            Krisened (6:59 PM) :
                                                            I realize I didnt/couldnt follow your rules, you could have simply returned my money, thats what I do with my customers
                                                            Choker (6:59 PM) :
                                                            Inever ignored you dude, you are not on my icq contact list, you keep telling me you sent a paypal but you REFUSED to send me the info for it like I asked you so many times to do, and you still have not
                                                            Krisened (6:59 PM) :
                                                            you want the info sent from within your script?
                                                            Choker (7:00 PM) :
                                                            DUDE, I don't have your paypal info, you never messaged the info of the paypal in the script like I asked you too so many times, so many times
                                                            Krisened (7:00 PM) :
                                                            I didnt realize that it HAD to come from your script
                                                            Choker (7:01 PM) :
                                                            I told you that MANY times and on that instruction page I gave you the url for SEVERAL times it says exactly the same thing
                                                            Krisened (7:02 PM) :
                                                            well clearly this is the problem me not sending you the info inside the script, do you STILL want it inside the script after all this?
                                                            Choker (7:02 PM) :
                                                            I'm waiting
                                                            Choker (7:02 PM) :
                                                            DUDE, just send the info in the script, it is so simple
                                                            Krisened (7:02 PM) :
                                                            ok gimme a sec...
                                                            Krisened (7:05 PM) :
                                                            url of exactly the info you want again please
                                                            Choker (7:06 PM) :
                                                            what is your paypal user name?
                                                            Krisened (7:06 PM) :
                                                            thats all you need from inside the script?
                                                            Choker (7:07 PM) :
                                                            just tell me here
                                                            Choker (7:07 PM) :
                                                            I think I found yours, it is this request to get paid?
                                                            Choker (7:07 PM) :
                                                            what is the paypal user name?
                                                            Krisened (7:07 PM) :
                                                            yes I sent you a request for money to speed things up
                                                            Choker (7:07 PM) :
                                                            what is your paypal user name?
                                                            Krisened (7:08 PM) :
                                                            paypal username is OneSiteAtATime
                                                            I just sent that from within the script
                                                            Krisened (7:08 PM) :
                                                            cut and paste from paypal site
                                                            Name: OneSiteAtATime (kris jensen)

                                                            Choker (7:09 PM) :
                                                            you have never bought trtaffic from me before
                                                            Krisened (7:10 PM) :
                                                            yes I have, over a year ago, all via icq, I was quite happy with it
                                                            Krisened (7:10 PM) :
                                                            I apologize for the wording of that thread, I really thought you were ignoring me
                                                            Choker (7:13 PM) :
                                                            It's refunded
                                                            ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                            Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                            The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                            Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                            http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                            • Va2k
                                                              I’m still alive barley.
                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                              • 10060

                                                              #80
                                                              I know if your not on each others contact list and if you try to send a url via icq it will ignore it and the other party wont see anything. Maybe that is what happened?

                                                              Peace
                                                              TOM

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                                                              • Jizzman
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 379

                                                                #81
                                                                "Everyday I deal with guys who have trouble following the instructions for buying traffic." hmmm...

                                                                Was that 'everyday?' Is it possible your instructions are less than clear?

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                                                                • Choker
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 9024

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by va2k
                                                                  I know if your not on each others contact list and if you try to send a url via icq it will ignore it and the other party wont see anything. Maybe that is what happened?

                                                                  Peace
                                                                  TOM
                                                                  Yes that is exactly what happened. Thing is the only way to send me money thru paypal is on this page http://chickentraffic.com/help/buygallerytraffic.htm
                                                                  He sent money from this page which clearly says this:

                                                                  4. After you paypal, click on the "Message Choker" link. Send me a message in this format please:
                                                                  "I just paid $75 for 100k gallery traffic to http://myurl.com I prefer this gallery in the gal_teens_redheads or gal_amateur_teens category. Paypal user name is Joeblow" Please note that your paypal user name is NOT the same as your paypal email address or log-in.

                                                                  Not only that I sent him the url of this page several times over icq asking him to follow the instructions on it. And he says he went to that page yet he still could not follow the instructions on it.
                                                                  As far as the customer service I challenge anyone to maintain over 1000 active webmaster accounts at the same time over icq. It's just not possible. If people simply follow the instructions their orders are added within 2 to 24 hours. 48 hours max if I am behind but that does not happen that often.
                                                                  ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                  Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                  The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                  Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                  http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                  • Choker
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 9024

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Jizzman
                                                                    "Everyday I deal with guys who have trouble following the instructions for buying traffic." hmmm...

                                                                    Was that 'everyday?' Is it possible your instructions are less than clear?
                                                                    Yep, this is real complicated
                                                                    http://chickentraffic.com/help/buygallerytraffic.htm
                                                                    ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                    Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                    The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                    Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                    http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                    • kelly
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 901

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Choker, I was always pretty dubious of buying traffic from you but I have seen nothing but class from you in dealing with situations (recently this and the Fly fake competition thread) I look forward to working with you in the future.
                                                                      http://www.thehungersite.com

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                                                                      • Theo
                                                                        HAL 9000
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 34515

                                                                        #85
                                                                        hello kelly, are you single?

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                                                                        • Choker
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                          • 9024

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by kelly
                                                                          Choker, I was always pretty dubious of buying traffic from you but I have seen nothing but class from you in dealing with situations (recently this and the Fly fake competition thread) I look forward to working with you in the future.
                                                                          Same here Kelly, and I don't like calling anyone a idiot but this guy really is. I have a lot of patience dealing with newbies, I never flame them or put them down. I help as much as I can, but this guy is just totally clueless. I must have asked him a dozen times to message me in the script the paypal info yet he never did, then claimed I ripped him off. This kind of crap really pisses me off. I have NEVER ripped anyone off and never will. Anyone can message me up and claim to have sent me money and want it back. If that person REFUSES to provide me proof that he paid me, then what am I supposed to do? Give him money out of my own pocket? Try getting a refund at Walmart without a reciept and see what happens, LOL
                                                                          ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                          Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                          The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                          Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                          http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                          • Terry
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                            • 1604

                                                                            #87
                                                                            I have never had any problems with Choker... love his traffic actually.

                                                                            But I guess a misunderstanding between two people can happen... especially when nobody wants to admit to being wrong!


                                                                            How To Make A Buck
                                                                            TengaCash
                                                                            ICQ: 6776764

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                                                                            • Terry
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 1604

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Choker

                                                                              Try getting a refund at Walmart without a reciept and see what happens
                                                                              I have actually done that at the Walmart near my house... took a little arguing and causing a scene, but I eventually got my money back .

                                                                              How To Make A Buck
                                                                              TengaCash
                                                                              ICQ: 6776764

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