Originally posted by Soul_Rebel Topic: Ripped off by Choker
Your title doesn't reflect the situation. Personally I wouldn't like any business association/dealing with someone jumping on a webmaster's bbs like this without having the patience to wait.
You are correct, I should have put a question mark at the end of that sentence.
Well, if you can't handle that kind of issues because you don't have time, hire someone to take care of it of just don't offer the service. This kind of professional approach isn't going to help him. Look at the results. When dealing with money and strangers, you have to DEAL with it. The "I am to busy" excuse is unacceptable for someone into any kind of business.
NoCarrier, I'm handling my business with people well, than you very much
I'm just saying things happens sometimes... and the boards, calling someone a rip-off is not always the right way...
I'm always going out of my way to please webmasters, and we are always available... I was just saying to use all options
even though sometimes I'm not on icq or not checking emails, emergencys are always dealt with when I am aware of them, and we have a phone in our office too ;)
Scroll down a bit and you'll find instructions on how to correctly file an order. Choker will receive it, check it and you'll have traffic flowing within 24 hours.
I just talked to choker he is busy prepping for my Bukkake Bash 2003 at the jacob javits convention center in march in NYC. He shot 2 gallons of love juice and he is exhausted . he is one of my best shooters.
You are correct, I should have put a question mark at the end of that sentence.
Actually you shouldn't have started the topic at all. At least not so fast. Anyway, I think if you wait some more Choker will take care of this problem.
ROFLMAO, How can I return a paypal I can't find? You claim you sent a paypal yet REFUSE to provide me the information about it. Posting this crap here is just gonna fuck you. I told you to charge it back that I can't find it. If you can't follow the simple instructions that every other webmaster can, then I can't help you. Let me repeat myself so you can understand ........ If you refuse to message me in the script the paypal information, I can't verify that you ever sent me a paypal. What is so hard for you to understand about that?? Let's see, I get 30 to 50 paypals a day, yet you are the only person who can't follow the instructions in your admin.
I was hoping for something similar around 10 am when he last messaged me and asked for paypal info. 7 hours later nothing, to me that says he has no intention of refunding me.
7 hours, are you fucking kidding me? Not ever program and service is required to provide 24/7 support. He doesn't claim to.
You sir are an assface, and this thread should be closed. That's the most serious acusation you can make about someone around here, and you make it after waiting 7 hours?
Originally posted by Choker ROFLMAO, How can I return a paypal I can't find? You claim you sent a paypal yet REFUSE to provide me the information about it. Posting this crap here is just gonna fuck you. I told you to charge it back that I can't find it. If you can't follow the simple instructions that every other webmaster can, then I can't help you. Let me repeat myself so you can understand ........ If you refuse to message me in the script the paypal information, I can't verify that you ever sent me a paypal. What is so hard for you to understand about that?? Let's see, I get 30 to 50 paypals a day, yet you are the only person who can't follow the instructions in your admin.
huh? Ive sent you the info 2x via icq, whats preventing you from looking it up? Im not 'refusing' you...on icq you ask for paypal info, I send it immediately and then I dont hear from you.
7 hours, are you fucking kidding me? Not ever program and service is required to provide 24/7 support. He doesn't claim to.
You sir are an assface, and this thread should be closed. That's the most serious acusation you can make about someone around here, and you make it after waiting 7 hours?
Originally posted by Choker ROFLMAO, How can I return a paypal I can't find? You claim you sent a paypal yet REFUSE to provide me the information about it. Posting this crap here is just gonna fuck you. I told you to charge it back that I can't find it. If you can't follow the simple instructions that every other webmaster can, then I can't help you. Let me repeat myself so you can understand ........ If you refuse to message me in the script the paypal information, I can't verify that you ever sent me a paypal. What is so hard for you to understand about that?? Let's see, I get 30 to 50 paypals a day, yet you are the only person who can't follow the instructions in your admin.
Wow and this is the way you treat your clients? And Jizzman has bought traffic from you before...
Fuck I'm glad I never bought traffic from you. I just signed up 2 days ago for an account but I guess I won't be needing it now.
Wow and this is the way you treat your clients? And Jizzman has bought traffic from you before...
Fuck I'm glad I never bought traffic from you. I just signed up 2 days ago for an account but I guess I won't be needing it now.
DH
Make a post on GFY accusing me off ripping you off and HELL YES this is the way you will be treated by me. Let's see, now everyone message me claiming they sent me a paypal, then REFUSE to send me the paypal info, then accuse me of ripping them off. Finally after 2 days of dealing with this idiot, he tells me his account name, guess how many messages he sent me in the script, NONE<NADA<NOT A SINGLE ONE. Does it say anywhere in my script to email me? NO, it say's to send a message in the script.
I had nothing, but good experience with choker.
Just stop wasting time on this board send him the info and get it over with.
I know if he owes you the money...you WILL get your refund. Just get the info to him.
Choker is a good, honest business man...he doesn't need bad reputation over $350.00
Originally posted by Choker
Make a post on GFY accusing me off ripping you off and HELL YES this is the way you will be treated by me. Let's see, now everyone message me claiming they sent me a paypal, then REFUSE to send me the paypal info, then accuse me of ripping them off. Finally after 2 days of dealing with this idiot, he tells me his account name, guess how many messages he sent me in the script, NONE<NADA<NOT A SINGLE ONE. Does it say anywhere in my script to email me? NO, it say's to send a message in the script.
Well according to him you did rip him off. He sent you money for traffic, you accepted the payment. He never received any traffic... He in turn sent you the confirmation payment transactions to prove he sent you the money and you still sent him no traffic. In my book that is ripping a person off!
For christs sake the guy is a repeat client! You ever hear of the old saying it is easier to keep a customer then go find another one?
I know you have a lot of people sending you paypals and you're a busy guy but that doesn't give you a reason to take Jizzman's business any lighter. Damn if you're so busy and successful why don't you hire someone to help you with customer support?
Well according to him you did rip him off. He sent you money for traffic, you accepted the payment. He never received any traffic... He in turn sent you the confirmation payment transactions to prove he sent you the money and you still sent him no traffic. In my book that is ripping a person off!
DH
What part do you not understand......He REFUSED to message me the paypal info. How can I verify a paypal someone CLAIMS they made unless they send me the paypal info?
Everyday I deal with guys who have trouble following the instructions for buying traffic. But this guy takes the cake. Here's a icq from him just now
169754882 (4:37 PM) :
dont tell me you are actually keeping my $350?
Choker (6:32 PM) :
what is your account name please?
Krisened (6:47 PM) :
so what are we gonna do? Im open to suggestions?
Choker (6:47 PM) :
what is your account name
Choker (6:47 PM) :
what is your account name
Choker (6:47 PM) :
waht is your account name
Choker (6:48 PM) :
hello what is your account name in my script
Choker (6:48 PM) :
Isaid what is your account name in my script
Krisened (6:49 PM) :
jizzman
Choker (6:55 PM) :
you never once messaged me in the script, not one time
Krisened (6:55 PM) :
agreed I did not, I didnt know that I was supposed to, perhaps you could have told me that via icq
Choker (6:56 PM) :
how many times did I tell you to follow the instructions in the buy traffic links of your admin???
Krisened (6:57 PM) :
You sent me to that page with the paypal info on it several times
Choker (6:57 PM) :
and you can't follow the instructions on it?
Choker (6:57 PM) :
where in my script does it say to email me?
Krisened (6:58 PM) :
well when I started askig you you asked for my paypal info so I though you basically said fuck it and were going to send my money back then you ignored me
Krisened (6:59 PM) :
I realize I didnt/couldnt follow your rules, you could have simply returned my money, thats what I do with my customers
Choker (6:59 PM) :
Inever ignored you dude, you are not on my icq contact list, you keep telling me you sent a paypal but you REFUSED to send me the info for it like I asked you so many times to do, and you still have not
Krisened (6:59 PM) :
you want the info sent from within your script?
Choker (7:00 PM) :
DUDE, I don't have your paypal info, you never messaged the info of the paypal in the script like I asked you too so many times, so many times
Krisened (7:00 PM) :
I didnt realize that it HAD to come from your script
Choker (7:01 PM) :
I told you that MANY times and on that instruction page I gave you the url for SEVERAL times it says exactly the same thing
Krisened (7:02 PM) :
well clearly this is the problem me not sending you the info inside the script, do you STILL want it inside the script after all this?
Choker (7:02 PM) :
I'm waiting
Choker (7:02 PM) :
DUDE, just send the info in the script, it is so simple
Krisened (7:02 PM) :
ok gimme a sec...
Krisened (7:05 PM) :
url of exactly the info you want again please
Choker (7:06 PM) :
what is your paypal user name?
Krisened (7:06 PM) :
thats all you need from inside the script?
Choker (7:07 PM) :
just tell me here
Choker (7:07 PM) :
I think I found yours, it is this request to get paid?
Choker (7:07 PM) :
what is the paypal user name?
Krisened (7:07 PM) :
yes I sent you a request for money to speed things up
Choker (7:07 PM) :
what is your paypal user name?
Krisened (7:08 PM) :
paypal username is OneSiteAtATime
I just sent that from within the script
Krisened (7:08 PM) :
cut and paste from paypal site
Name: OneSiteAtATime (kris jensen)
Choker (7:09 PM) :
you have never bought trtaffic from me before
Krisened (7:10 PM) :
yes I have, over a year ago, all via icq, I was quite happy with it
Krisened (7:10 PM) :
I apologize for the wording of that thread, I really thought you were ignoring me
Choker (7:13 PM) :
It's refunded
I know if your not on each others contact list and if you try to send a url via icq it will ignore it and the other party wont see anything. Maybe that is what happened?
Originally posted by va2k I know if your not on each others contact list and if you try to send a url via icq it will ignore it and the other party wont see anything. Maybe that is what happened?
Peace
TOM
Yes that is exactly what happened. Thing is the only way to send me money thru paypal is on this page http://chickentraffic.com/help/buygallerytraffic.htm
He sent money from this page which clearly says this:
4. After you paypal, click on the "Message Choker" link. Send me a message in this format please:
"I just paid $75 for 100k gallery traffic to http://myurl.com I prefer this gallery in the gal_teens_redheads or gal_amateur_teens category. Paypal user name is Joeblow" Please note that your paypal user name is NOT the same as your paypal email address or log-in.
Not only that I sent him the url of this page several times over icq asking him to follow the instructions on it. And he says he went to that page yet he still could not follow the instructions on it.
As far as the customer service I challenge anyone to maintain over 1000 active webmaster accounts at the same time over icq. It's just not possible. If people simply follow the instructions their orders are added within 2 to 24 hours. 48 hours max if I am behind but that does not happen that often.
Choker, I was always pretty dubious of buying traffic from you but I have seen nothing but class from you in dealing with situations (recently this and the Fly fake competition thread) I look forward to working with you in the future.
Originally posted by kelly Choker, I was always pretty dubious of buying traffic from you but I have seen nothing but class from you in dealing with situations (recently this and the Fly fake competition thread) I look forward to working with you in the future.
Same here Kelly, and I don't like calling anyone a idiot but this guy really is. I have a lot of patience dealing with newbies, I never flame them or put them down. I help as much as I can, but this guy is just totally clueless. I must have asked him a dozen times to message me in the script the paypal info yet he never did, then claimed I ripped him off. This kind of crap really pisses me off. I have NEVER ripped anyone off and never will. Anyone can message me up and claim to have sent me money and want it back. If that person REFUSES to provide me proof that he paid me, then what am I supposed to do? Give him money out of my own pocket? Try getting a refund at Walmart without a reciept and see what happens, LOL
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