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Hispanics Now Outnumber Blacks in U.S.

01-21-2003, 12:27 PM

Hispanics have surpassed blacks as the nation's largest minority group, the Census Bureau said Tuesday.

The Latino population grew to 37 million in July 2001, up 4.7 percent from April 2000. The black population increased 2 percent during the same period, to 36.1 million.

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01-21-2003, 01:23 PM

"The Latino population grew to 37 million in July 2001, up 4.7 percent from April 2000."

and these are census counts that don't count many immigrants...
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01-21-2003, 01:31 PM

What are Hispanics? What are blacks?

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01-21-2003, 01:31 PM

Doesn't suprise me...

We need to CONTROL the damn borders better.
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01-21-2003, 01:34 PM

the gay/lesbian/bi group i worked for in Uni shared an office with LASO (Latin American Student Org) and they told us that was going to be the case and about this time.

Doesn't really do much to my life...they are just people.
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01-21-2003, 01:36 PM

Ummm races of people?

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What are Hispanics? What are blacks?
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01-21-2003, 02:23 PM

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01-21-2003, 02:29 PM

Well if that's true, why can't I get some friggin decent Mexican food in NY?

All of the little Mexican places are owned and operated by Koreans and Chinese folks!

I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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01-21-2003, 02:31 PM

mexicans multiply fuckin quick
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01-21-2003, 02:33 PM

LATINO HEAT...
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01-21-2003, 02:50 PM

White people are doomed.

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01-21-2003, 03:00 PM

nope... 1 ring to rule them all.. and Bush has it.
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01-21-2003, 03:22 PM

I welcome ANY race/nationality that want's to move to this country and enjoy our civil liberties, live the dream, and make the best of it..like many of out ancestors did. Apu can run as many quickie marts as he wants, thats what makes this country great.

The problem is with the people who are already here and cause violence, crime, hate.....oh and fundamentalists...

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01-21-2003, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by marcu5
mexicans multiply fuckin quick

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01-21-2003, 03:29 PM

"minority"?
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01-21-2003, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by salsbury
"minority"?

What is your question?

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01-21-2003, 03:32 PM

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01-21-2003, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by .:Frog:.
White people are doomed.

Why are white people doomed?

I don't see why this is a surprise to everyone, Mexico is our neighbor & PR is not far away. This has been happening for a long time. You guys need to get outta the suburbs once in a while...

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01-21-2003, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by .:Frog:.

What is your question?

when will we stop using terms like 'minority' when referencing non-white races?
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01-21-2003, 03:43 PM

One word.

Turrets.

'The Hispanic population, specifically, grew faster than expected during the decade. Latinos numbered 35.3 million in the 2000 census, rivaling blacks as the nation's largest minority group.

The number of undocumented men from Mexico grew from 396,000 in 1990 to 2.1 million in 2000. Many of them settled in Northeast and Midwest urban centers whose white residents have fled to the suburbs, said University of Michigan demographer William Frey.'

http://senrs.com/illegal_immigrant_p...statistics.htm

I cant go to the store without driving behind some motherfucker with no license plate and 7 kids in the car.

My girl cannot go to the grocery store without having 5-9 messicans who are standing outside the store whistle and harrass her.

They sell oranges on the freeway exits here.

Illegal immigrants smuggle in plastic flags to sell near my bank of America.

This state needs a serious purification.

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01-21-2003, 03:45 PM

Over 3 million motherfuckers come over from mexico a year. (illegally) 1 Million legally

and people wonder why people are shooting them like targets now.

'Legal immigration (i.e, foreigners granted permanent residency) increases by 1 million people per year. In addition, the Census Bureau estimates a net increase of 500,000 illegal immigrants annually.'

http://www.cis.org/topics/currentnumbers.html

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01-21-2003, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by salsbury

when will we stop using terms like 'minority' when referencing non-white races?

Your confused.
If your in India for example, White people would be the minority and the Indians the majority.
Its not all focused around a certain race like you think, and its no insult being the minority.

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01-21-2003, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by salsbury

when will we stop using terms like 'minority' when referencing non-white races?

Probably when they are no longer a minority. Why? Is this now offensive too!? Sheesh.

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01-21-2003, 04:16 PM

Assuming that those numbers are true and the projections they suggest become reality and whites become a minority--so what?

Mexico has a majority mestizo population but with a very tiny white minority. Guess who runs the country. Guess who owns the economic and legal infrastructure.

There are tons of countries where an ethnic minority control the economic, legal, and social apparatus despite the demographic and electoral strength of the majority. Of course there are violent examples of this uneasy coexistence -- see Indonesia, Malaysia, and Idi Amin's Uganda. But there's also the example of Singapore.

Maybe the real concern is not whether white Americans will become an ethnic minority but whether the respect for the American way of life and American culture will become the minority view as well. This country successfully assimilated Europeans from cultural backgrounds that were very different from the Anglo Saxon Protestant orientation of its founders. The question is can it do the trick again with this new wave of immigrants.

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Over 3 million motherfuckers come over from mexico a year. (illegally) 1 Million legally

and people wonder why people are shooting them like targets now.

'Legal immigration (i.e, foreigners granted permanent residency) increases by 1 million people per year. In addition, the Census Bureau estimates a net increase of 500,000 illegal immigrants annually.'

http://www.cis.org/topics/currentnumbers.html
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01-21-2003, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by G Sharp
Assuming that those numbers are true and the projections they suggest become reality and whites become a minority--so what?

I didnt say anything about whites becoming minority or anything to do with that.

I simple said there are too many illegal immigrants coming in.

Thought that was fairly apparent.

Whites ARE the minority here bruh.

Van Nuys is Messico. My liquor store guy does NOT speak English.

The guy who cuts my meat DOES NOT speak english.

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01-21-2003, 04:42 PM

Immigration needs a fucking street patrole.... I swear you could drive through Los Angeles and round up illegal immigrants by the busload. Not exaggerating in the least on this. And this is not limited to Mexicans either.
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01-21-2003, 05:23 PM

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Whites ARE the minority here bruh.

Maybe in Hollywood and the Valley. But most of that real estate is owned by people who live in West LA and the west side of the valley. And yep...they're mostly not Hispanic.

Bottom line is, as long as we still play by American rules then I'm cool. The moment we start using Mexican law or Mexican culture to play the game then that's when shit starts to get interesting.

I highly doubt the latter will come to pass since Mexicans, and most other immigrants, came here to escape the "Old Country's" corruption and the economic mess its political/cultural baggage produced. They came here to work in an American economy under an American system. Doesn't make sense to kill the system you crossed several rivers to become a part of?
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01-21-2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by salsbury

when will we stop using terms like 'minority' when referencing non-white races?

When we become one.... though maybe we already are a minority race
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01-21-2003, 06:12 PM

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01-21-2003, 06:15 PM

Two things. First of all, isn't there some overlap between "hispanic" and "black"? Just wonder how that comes into play with such statistics.

More importantly, though, there is a larger minority. One that people often forget... Males. Slightly less than 50% of people are male, meaning we are about as large a minority as is mathematically possible.

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01-21-2003, 06:35 PM

Immigrants are great for cheap labour.. unless they're islamic terrorists seeking 'asylum', we have a huge problem in the UK.
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01-21-2003, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by bristol
Immigrants are great for cheap labour

That is very true and the reason there is so many here in the US. Most people would not do the work they do even if they were paid better wages. Unless some of you are willing to go out and pick our crops and wash are cars be careful what you ask for.

If it bothers you guys that your meat cutter or sales guys dont speak English you can just take yourself to a store that has what your looking for. Your complaining here but yet you guys are the reason immigrants are here, stop giving them your money and maybe they wont come. Dont pay Jose to mow your lawn; do it yourself or go ask Lance if he will do it for $30 a month.
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01-21-2003, 07:51 PM

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Van Nuys is Messico. My liquor store guy does NOT speak English.
The guy who cuts my meat DOES NOT speak english.
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Pues, es la hora de aprender como hablar espanol, no? Como puedes preguntar por tus Coronas si no puedes hablar con el cajero? Y ademas...los Mejicanos tienen los mejor bolsos de la verde pegajoso

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01-21-2003, 08:02 PM

Most of the meth and weed in the states comes from Mexico and they're giving the columbians a run for their money with coke too.
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01-21-2003, 08:05 PM

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01-21-2003, 08:08 PM

the mexicans pretty much taken over my neighborhood,

there's not a day that goes by without a mexican trying to speak spanish to me,,

No Habla Espanol

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01-21-2003, 08:31 PM

come on...

w/o Mexican immigrants, who would pick our crops, clean our houses, clean hotels etc......? I don't see these low paying jobs being scooped up by Americans.

this keeps our agricultural economy running and keeps prices low..
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01-21-2003, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by JimW
come on...

w/o Mexican immigrants, who would pick our crops, clean our houses, clean hotels etc......? I don't see these low paying jobs being scooped up by Americans.

this keeps our agricultural economy running and keeps prices low..

The sad part of that is that most of those are mexicans.. if you see the hispanic community in Miami.. is full of executives and business owners
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01-21-2003, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Well if that's true, why can't I get some friggin decent Mexican food in NY?

All of the little Mexican places are owned and operated by Koreans and Chinese folks!

Chicago has great Mexican food. I moved to Houston for a while expecting awesome mexican food and found only crap (although Texas all you can eat BBQ houses OMG yum!yum!) but Chicago has a ton of mexicans and solid little Mexico City neighborhoods and the food is great and cheap! Although one wonders about the hygiene in alot of these places. I don't mean to be biased but I have witnessed some serious healthcode violations like re-using the salsa that other customers dipped in..hmm ok so I had a few drinks..

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01-22-2003, 09:05 AM

illegal immigrants GO HOME!

thats the bottom line... by being here they are commiting a crime... im middle class and white... if i commit a crime i get punished... its all about fairness... some how certain crimes (like this) get overlooked in this country... why should i have to pay taxes but not someone else who lives here... aliens dont pay taxes and they cost this country billions... i dont care what race someone is... if you arent legal get out until you can get in legally... we need troops on our borders now... our borders are insecure... i could go on but you get the gist of it
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01-22-2003, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by Dax

The sad part of that is that most of those are mexicans.. if you see the hispanic community in Miami.. is full of executives and business owners

That's because many of the Hispanics in Miami are Cuban upper and upper middle class that fled Castro's Cuba. Most were already skilled, white Spaniards, and more importantly, possessed middle class values when they got here. Quite a contrast from many Mexicans and Central Americans who were campesinos and border town dwellers before moving here. Hence the disparity in socioeconomic levels.

A good example of this would be comparing 1959 Cuban Americans with the Marielitos of the early 80's. Quite a big difference.

Your comment might as well have asked us to compare apples with oranges.
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01-22-2003, 10:16 AM

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01-22-2003, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I didnt say anything about whites becoming minority or anything to do with that.

I simple said there are too many illegal immigrants coming in.

Thought that was fairly apparent.

Whites ARE the minority here bruh.

Van Nuys is Messico. My liquor store guy does NOT speak English.

The guy who cuts my meat DOES NOT speak english.

hahaha

You have a guy CUT your meat? Whoa, that's fettishy.
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01-22-2003, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by exspamr
illegal immigrants GO HOME!

thats the bottom line... by being here they are commiting a crime... im middle class and white... if i commit a crime i get punished... its all about fairness... some how certain crimes (like this) get overlooked in this country... why should i have to pay taxes but not someone else who lives here... aliens dont pay taxes and they cost this country billions... i dont care what race someone is... if you arent legal get out until you can get in legally... we need troops on our borders now... our borders are insecure... i could go on but you get the gist of it

Wrong.. for the most part illegal aliens work with fake SocialSecurities and they do pay taxes and what is worse is that they can not claim anything at the end of the year to get taxes back, so therefore to be an illegal alien is more expensive than for us.

Also I do not think that it is a crime.. because you do not get arrested if found to be here illegally u just get deported
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01-22-2003, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by G Sharp

That's because many of the Hispanics in Miami are Cuban upper and upper middle class that fled Castro's Cuba. Most were already skilled, white Spaniards, and more importantly, possessed middle class values when they got here. Quite a contrast from many Mexicans and Central Americans who were campesinos and border town dwellers before moving here. Hence the disparity in socioeconomic levels.

A good example of this would be comparing 1959 Cuban Americans with the Marielitos of the early 80's. Quite a big difference.

Your comment might as well have asked us to compare apples with oranges.

WRONG!

If you do a study of the Hispanics in Miami, you would see that NOW ( 2000's ) Cubans are not the majority of hispanics.. its a nice blend of colombians, argentinians, CENTRAL AMERICANS, etc..

So again.. sorry but I disagree... Yes Cubans were the first big group but now they are not the majority.
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01-22-2003, 12:51 PM

Hey! Houston has <b>great</b> Mexican food!@!# :-]
What in the world are you talking about lol

Stop comparing Mexican people to all other Latin American
countries.

It's like comparing American people to the Irish just because
they speak the English language.

Very ignorant.
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01-22-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Dax

WRONG!

If you do a study of the Hispanics in Miami, you would see that NOW ( 2000's ) Cubans are not the majority of hispanics.. its a nice blend of colombians, argentinians, CENTRAL AMERICANS, etc..

So again.. sorry but I disagree... Yes Cubans were the first big group but now they are not the majority.

No. YOU are WRONG. Read my post again. I said "MANY" not "ALL" And if that's not enough, many of the the individuals in that blend of "Colombians, Argentinians, etc" you mentioned are already middle or upper class in their countries when they got here

http://www.census.gov/population/www.../hispanic.html

When you look at the class levels and backgrounds of immigrants, Mexicans have the most diversity [read : thay have a large number of lower income and lower skilled workers] . One of the key reasons many Latinos in Miami are "professionals" is due to their class origin and starting capital upon migration to the US. And this also ties in with already existing Cuban-American capital.

It is an often repeated observation amongst demographics observers that the FURTHER a person immigrates from the higher their origination class/skill levels. This, of course, does not apply to refugees or political asylees. This accounts for AFRICANS' [ie., from continental Africa not african-americans] having a higher education/class level than many other ethnic groups.

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