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goBigtime · 10-24-2003, 05:48 PM

I understand the fragmentation & confusion issue. But JMM you should realize it started before today & Choker - with FTPF.

The volunteer work that Brandon is doing is nothing short of awesome & his presense in this whole thing is appreciated by all I'm sure.

But this is short attention span theater & this shit is getting confusing.

The IMPA (goes to defense fund??)
The Defense fund
The Defense group
The FTPF (pledges only?)
Now Chokers idea.

And then all of the players of the respective groups.

We're all from an industry that should understand the K.I.S.S philosophy very well by now.
(Keep it simple stupid, for you newbies

... and I have a feeling this post wont adhere to that very well.)

The only thing that sort of bothers me about the FTPF pledge drive is it's timing. Brandon has over $25,000 in pledges from people who may now feel that by making that "pledge" they have contributed to in helping to invalidate Acacias patents & this feeling may prevent them from contributing NOW to the organization or group or whatever, that is CURRENTLY IN THE COURT SYSTEM.

Like JMM & everyone has said... if Acacias patents are invalidated or considerably narrowed, this will affect EVERYONE.

IMO, there should be ONE PLACE to donate some money to help those who are specifically fighting to invalidate Acacia's patents if the people donating and fighting feel that prior art and/or considerable prior use exists.

On the other hand I understand where Choker is coming from.

From the sound of it, Acacia recently made a big play by apparently emailing tons of new people their first and "final offer".

It's been said over and over again by you, Far-L, Spike and everyone with any sense... sitting back and "doing nothing" is probably not the best thing to do.

So these people who have been contacted need legal representation NOW to properly respond to Acacia's new round of letters & perhaps even initiate a suit against them if one is warranted.

I know that most attorneys don't like giving out form/template responses for clients... so I think this is going to be a problem for Choker anyway.

Someone said how it would have to go down. A whole new group would probably have to be formed & that just causes more fragmentation & confusion.

Question for you though JMM....

If not Chokers idea, then what?

What are the individual people who are being contacted (and threatened with legal action?) NOW with requests to repond by Nov 31 supposed to do?

A lot of these guys can't afford $300/hour attorneys. So what should they do?

10-24-2003, 05:48 PM
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	I understand the fragmentation & confusion issue. But JMM you should realize it started before today & Choker - with FTPF. The volunteer work that Brandon is doing is nothing short of awesome & his presense in this whole thing is appreciated by all I'm sure. But this is short attention span theater & this shit is getting confusing. The IMPA (goes to defense fund??) The Defense fund The Defense group The FTPF (pledges only?) Now Chokers idea. And then all of the players of the respective groups. We're all from an industry that should understand the K.I.S.S philosophy very well by now. (Keep it simple stupid, for you newbies ... and I have a feeling this post wont adhere to that very well.) The only thing that sort of bothers me about the FTPF pledge drive is it's timing. Brandon has over $25,000 in pledges from people who may now feel that by making that "pledge" they have contributed to in helping to invalidate Acacias patents & this feeling may prevent them from contributing NOW to the organization or group or whatever, that is CURRENTLY IN THE COURT SYSTEM. Like JMM & everyone has said... if Acacias patents are invalidated or considerably narrowed, this will affect EVERYONE. IMO, there should be ONE PLACE to donate some money to help those who are specifically fighting to invalidate Acacia's patents if the people donating and fighting feel that prior art and/or considerable prior use exists. On the other hand I understand where Choker is coming from. From the sound of it, Acacia recently made a big play by apparently emailing tons of new people their first and "final offer". It's been said over and over again by you, Far-L, Spike and everyone with any sense... sitting back and "doing nothing" is probably not the best thing to do. So these people who have been contacted need legal representation NOW to properly respond to Acacia's new round of letters & perhaps even initiate a suit against them if one is warranted. I know that most attorneys don't like giving out form/template responses for clients... so I think this is going to be a problem for Choker anyway. Someone said how it would have to go down. A whole new group would probably have to be formed & that just causes more fragmentation & confusion. Question for you though JMM.... If not Chokers idea, then what? What are the individual people who are being contacted (and threatened with legal action?) NOW with requests to repond by Nov 31 supposed to do? A lot of these guys can't afford $300/hour attorneys. So what should they do?