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How's CFF doing for you with ccbill?

01-19-2003, 06:38 AM

Maybe it's too soon to judge but it doesn't look good for me.

Got around 15 trials 4 days ago.
And 0 rebills now.
Doesn't look good to me.
Also conversions seem worse.
Any else seeing this?
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01-19-2003, 06:39 AM

What kind of site's do you run?

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01-19-2003, 06:44 AM

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I did better using wsb then with ccbill.
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01-19-2003, 06:46 AM

Ahhh got ya. I know that I did not fair well at all with trials. Once we got rid of them and went to a flat, higher rate our retentions went up in a big way. My niche does not dowell with trials.

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01-19-2003, 06:50 AM

I don't like trials either
But they only offer a trial when people hit the back button on their browser when they are on the signup page itself so you get less trial signups this way.
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01-19-2003, 07:06 AM

I hate to say it, but I was doing way better with WSB.

I am converting at 1:1500 on CCbill
And 1:350 with WSB
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01-19-2003, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by Blaze
I hate to say it, but I was doing way better with WSB.

I am converting at 1:1500 on CCbill
And 1:350 with WSB

Wow yes that's a pretty big difference as well.
it's strange.
If I don't get any rebills today I'll switch back to wsb.
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01-19-2003, 07:30 AM

I switched back to wsb

whats their payout schedule? once a month?

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01-19-2003, 07:58 AM

I feel better now, I thought i was the only one who could not convert with CCbill.

Acctually the past 2 days its been fuck accross the board, with WSB as well.

But over all WSB converts BETTER then CCbill. Wonder why?

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01-19-2003, 08:08 AM

I guess they scrub more.
I also promoted herfirstgangbang a lil while back.
Got 25 trials in a few days.
only 3 rebilled.
That's real low.
You should atleast get 30% of the trials convert to a full month.
This is only 12%.
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01-19-2003, 08:12 AM

Never had much luck with ccbill
funny thing is that we convert sponsors a lot better when they use wsb or globill, go figure,.

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01-19-2003, 11:43 AM

I did poorly with CFF on CCBill...I did some tests and talked to the XXX guys about this.

I redid a bunch of my old galleries with both WSB and CCBill codes. I got about 5 WSB SU's for each CCBill.

I think that there is some sort of screw up with CFF and CCBill cookies. Actually I would like the CFF guys to take a look at my stuff and see what is going on.

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01-19-2003, 11:55 AM

Yeah, it does seem to differ with ccbill.

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01-19-2003, 11:57 AM

Shoot the URL's and account infos to us on Monday and we'll have a look see.

CCbill did better for us in a beta test, which is why we added them. As far as trials go, we have a system set up that really does convert trials to full members in just minutes sometimes. We can't be in contact with every affiliate all the time, however there are a few that we talk to daily (some of which are our beta testers), and they have not had a problem with the conversions.

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01-19-2003, 12:16 PM

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01-19-2003, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by SR
Maybe it's too soon to judge but it doesn't look good for me.

Got around 15 trials 4 days ago.
And 0 rebills now.
Doesn't look good to me.
Also conversions seem worse.
Any else seeing this?

Same thing w/ me. Not 1 rebill yet & I've been using CCbill for over a week now. I found that very strange. My conversions are about the same as they were w/ WSB, but it does seem my over all sales are lower, but not by much. As much as I hate to do it, I might have to switch back to WSB as well.

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01-19-2003, 12:33 PM

yeah still doesn't look good here.
With herfirstgangbang and cff together I had 50 trials and so far only 3 rebilled.
That's 6%

Insane.
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01-19-2003, 12:50 PM

well I used CCBILL on 3 occasions on 3 different sites.
These sites had a history of *very* high rebills. Put about 1k signups to them via ccbill and had about 20-30% rebills. (not trail > full but full > next month). That was enough for me

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01-19-2003, 05:29 PM

CC Bill is converting as well as WSB but only with trials. Only had one trial convert out of 5 but its still early days and the trials haven't even come up for rebill yet! Ratio is 1:250 on tgp traffic which is the same as WSB.

The one thing that will probably send me back to WSB is the 100% Trial / 60% rebill offer. That will bag me a shit load more green, and thats what i'm interested in. Will keep pushing CC Bill until I get my 1st Cheque from WSB after reading a few threads on here.

Then again, remember you need to send a few thousand signups to get a good idea about conversions. Its easy to send 3 trials have not one rebill then cry foul. Bet there is someone who sent 3 trials and had all 3 rebill and is pretty happy.

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01-20-2003, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by Sausage
The one thing that will probably send me back to WSB is the 100% Trial / 60% rebill offer. That will bag me a shit load more green,

I'm pissed I missed out on that deal.

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01-20-2003, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by eRock

I'm pissed I missed out on that deal.

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01-21-2003, 08:53 AM

OK CCBill just called here and explained that, they fixed a processing error and that some people weren't being credited for a full membership when the surfer bought from the trial membership area.

They assured me that they had gone back and credited all accounts which had sales when the customer converted from a trial to a full member, or that didn't cancel their trial and became full members. The error was fixed on Friday.

CCBill guys are good to deal with. They have been very professional with us.

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