Oh how pathetic!

lightspeed, i have gotten that exact email from "gavin" VERBATIM once a year for the last four years for my amateur site ambersplace.com, i shit you not. same ip sends them every time.

i have never responded, but a few real amateur girls i know have and yes indeed, their shit ended up on ebay.

Is this just rumor, or is there proof of that?

i will see what i can dig up for proof (auction links etc). gavin may or may not be real, but amateur girls are flooded with emails like this regularly. my point is, he has been using this same exact text for YEARS, this shows me there is no thought or heart put into the individual amateur/camgirl he is contacting. if he thinks so highly of the individual girl he is contacting why is he spamming the same "form" to everyone?

http://www.google.com/search?q=My+na...a+quadriplegic

He's a copy and paste master!

Check out this....seems like the guy really is a scammer.

http://www.bigbeatty.com/gavingrow.html

DynaMite

standing

That is more cruel than making fun of the letter in the first place.
I know those types of slips happen and all, but for a dissabled person they just pop right out of the sentance.

In regards to the form letter. Well that is a no shit remark. I personally get asked nearly once a week still and it has been over 18 fucking years. I used to get asked often as many as 8 times I day when I was more social or attending highschool. If I could of just had a pre recorded message that would respond whenver that stupid pause in a conversation took place and the curious person says, " May I ask you a personal question?" (hint this always is followed by "what happened". I would of done it.

It is bad enough being dissabled, let alone bed bound. Sure being in a wheel chair does have a few perks. You can stare at breasts all day and the women do not care, they are at eye level after all. Hugs are also great by women as they have to lean over to do it and you get a face full of titts. Not to mention women like to sit in your lap. Yet fuck it is not easy, fun, or even some thing most people live through. The vast majority of us will attempt or suceed in suicide, or just give up and let a condition kill us.

It also should be noted that many therapists; social and physical, will push you to try and write such letters and such. They feel it is good for the soul and spirit. Then such letters are often more of the form variety, it is a tiny bit easier to take then hand doing every single one, we deal with enough rejection and failure already to not have to deal with even more from unanswered correspondances that we put a great deal of time and energy into.

Onto the scam. Ok so he may or may not sell the stuff. Personally I would give a rats ass if he did, and assuming he does good for him. Do any of you know or understand how dissability checks work? I do, and it sucks. First your income is based on what state you live in and the typical income level of people in that state. I happen to be somewhat lucky since I am in California so it is on the higher end. It still would never ever pay damn near enough. My SSI and SSD monthly income would be around a staggering 600.00 a month. Try living off of that sometime. If you decide to try and do some type of work assuming you can, they deduct 1.00 for every 2.00 you earn. If you happen to earn enough so that there is no check 1200.00 in my case, you loose your bennifits which often can take two to three years to regain. Not to mention they drop your medical coverage or give you shared costs. Then to top it off most of the insurance (its mostly medicare) does not pay for shit. The majority of prescription medications are only covered if your in the hospital and they are generics, you only get a new chair every 5-7 years, 1 catherter per month (they need weekly changing min.) and worse.

So if he is selling the stuff on ebay, so fucking what. It is a good way to get some under the table survival money. I seriously doubt he is living it up as a scammer. What would a autographed picture of someone famous fetch anyways. 35-125.00 High end if they were certified originals. Oh yeah he is making some serious coin. Yup Im sure he can get so many well known celebrities people will pay good money for to earn real money. Give me a fucking break. Some webgirl may fetch 10-20 bucks or so, and a real celebrity upwards of 125.00 (which there is a limited number of in the first place).

Damn at times you all surprise the fuck out of me.

ICQ me later today please. 147479144

gavin here again. whoever jayjay is, he's just full of shit. glad we can speak candidly here. check ebay for any sales from me ever. if you just want to make up shit about someone, pick someone else please

This is too funny.

anyone that ever reads this, put yourself in my position. imagine defending the fact that you are a quadriplegic. hilarious if you think about it. i commend the fellow that, through therapy, can walk again. i have been through rigoress pt which enabled me to gain some movement in my right arm. not my hand or wrist though. last defense of myself... i hope...

Dude, get Dragon Naturally Speaking. Can't believe nobody has hooked you up with that yet. It's $150 or less.

agreed

un fucking believable isn't it? Pisses me right da fuck off

whoever crazynakedchick is that is either a mistake or an outright lie. who sent me photos that ended up on ebay? if they have sent me a photo i can produce it very quickly and if they have not i will know. i have an inventory list of everyone i have written and the result, dated. my whole idea is to have a photo from everybody that i think is somebody. i wouldn't part with a one of them because how then could i replace it? how do you people come up with this shit??? i will be doing a website soon with all my photos scanned in for everyone to see. all board frequenters please keep track of all the bull-shitters because they will all be pulling their foot-out-of-their-mouth when i get to show all my photos... too bad there is not a way to gamble on this...

Gavin...

Post several pics of you with todays newspaper in your hand, ooops, uh, on your chest, where it shows the date and I will be the FIRST to send you $100 bucks, hell maybe more.

Until then, this is just TOO DAMN FUNNY!

WTG Gavin... nice hobby.

Send Gavin the DVD player.

funny, i'm not lonely at all today... i would rather have found out about this board some other way then defending something obvious to anyone physically meeting me. here is yet another web page of an international magazine, written by an olympic gold medalist, describing his visit to my home. https://www.americanwindsurfer.com/m....4/gavin1.html i want to have famous people come by to meet me and i want to have the largest collection of autographed photos ever. i'm worn out; long day of defense...

Something to think about. Quadraplegic people don't work. The government gives them fuckall to get by. And in most cases insurance refuses to help. So maybe aquiring photo's and selling them helps him make ends meet. If in fact it is true that he sells these pictures, I think it is an ingenious way of getting extra income. Either way just give the guy what he wants. Hell, someone show him how to build a tawne avs and supply him with the content. That way he will always gain some extra cash flow, and if it does not become profitable , like most avs', at least he has something to keep him busy.

In my own experience every disabled person I've met has one MAD horny streak in them. Whats up with that? Even cartoon quads are horn-dogs. Just watch John Callaghans Quads. I fucking love that show.

I don't really care if he uses form letters. If I had to type one key at a time with an arm that barely moved I'd use them too. Hell... I use them now and I'm able to use all my fingers and type faster than anyone I know.

As for selling pics. How cares? How much do you think an autographed photo of Tawnee Stone would go for? I'd give a quarter. Before getting all riled about him "selling things" use a little brain power. How much financial gain would he receive from an autographed photo of a virtual nobody?

He emailed me and I gave him a membership to my site good until 2010. It would have been even longer than that but CCBill's manually adding feature ends at 2010.

As he says, he's lonely and bored. And if he's a scam artist? Big deal! At most he'll download a GB of date over the course of a year. How much does that cost? It costs me 50 cents.

gavin, i cannot prove any auctions belong to you. true, your name is not on any auctions so i retract that statement. i can only hope you don't auction under other names.... :P

check your outbox for my amateur email address, you will see you have emailed me many times....the last being about two weeks ago. there is no way any webmaster is going to take any copy/pasted email seriously, especially with text four years old. if you have an easy way to truly personlize your emails to each person you contact i would suggest doing just that. when we open our inboxes we have no idea who is lying to us, and when 30-some girls that are friends all get the same exact email what are we supposed to think?

Gavin, you'll find that not much escapes the notice of this board and the results you'll get will *always* be on the hot extreme and the cold extreme. This is the most eclectic array of immature idiots and business-savvy millionaires you'll ever see.

I agree with the Dragon Naturally Speaking program - have you ever tried it? If not, I'd be happy to send you a copy. It takes a bit of training but after that it would be smooth sailing.

I've seen pictures of you from your surfer days - model material!

I'm serious about the Dragon program, just let me know where to send it.

I do.

And know many others that do.

your quad?!@?!@? if so, sorry to hear.

Don't be sorry. Just open your mind.

People assume quads CAN'T work. You think that makes it any easier for them to get a job?

Well, where I am from, all quads just get shuffled into a home. It's sad, but they end up being in NEED of others because of this. Our transportation system in my city is horrible. We just got wheelchair accesable city transit busses last year. I am sure alot of them do work from home on their computers. The major disability home here has internet access in ALL rooms and PC's provided. This whole thread reminds me of a friend of mine. He was in a car accident a few years back. His head was split open on a roll cage bar in his car. He let some drunk drive him home. they ended up wrapped around a pole and his head split wide open and lost 3.5 pints of blood and severely damaged his brain and spine. He was told he would never walk again, let alone talk


He was stuborn. He was put into rehabilitation as part of his insurance company's agreement to pay him a monthly fee for the rest of his life as a settlement. Part of the rehab was lifting weights to build up some muscle mass. The accident left him mostly paralyzed but he still had "some" movement. 1 year later, he is 260 lbs. His arms are bigger than my fucking torso. He now works at McDOnalds to keep him busy. He has a car. He has NO problem walking, jogging, biking. To meet him for the first time the only indication he had an accident was that he has a huge scar on his head and on his throat. Unfortunately the accident left permannant brain damage. But in the weirdest way. Physicaly he is now fine due to his therapy. But mentaly, he is a wreck. Very violent person. Careless. And cannot hold a relationship.

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO INSERT AN IMAGE HERE? PLEASE. GAVIN

Sly you've got all of my respect and then some. I'm not sure I'd have the strength to keep going if I became totally immobile. It would be a real battle between the stubborn streak in me and the depression telling me I'm just going to be a burden.
The thing I love is when the doctors say "you'll never -insert whatever- again" and the person proves them wrong. Doctors are *not* omnipotent gods, even though they act that way.

Yeh, that's complete bull shit.

That's the main reason I moved to California. Here I actually get treated human. Where I'm from, Iowa, I would have basically been a shut-in. I was treated like shit, ignored, and always being gawked at it. After a couple years of depression I finally just said "fuck 'em" and ignored everyone who assumed I was stupid.

Eh, it's life. Best lesson learned, people are ignorant, fuck 'em and live your own life.

It just goes to show that persistance pays off. But , in alot of cases the spine is severed when doctors say that...or so they think...

Good stuff. So how are you typing? dragon?

Gavin you can't upload one from your hard drive but you can link to a picture if it's already online somewhere.
Just hit the "IMG" button above the post area and paste the URL of the picture into the little java screen that pops up and then hit "okay".

I haven't been depressed in well over 2 years. But high school was hell. The worst couple years of my life. I never saw a doctor about it, but I swear I was bi-polar. Real deep lows, and unbelievable highs. I can't imagine any drug getting you any higher than I was those days. One day I just snapped out of it and noticed how beautiful the sky was.

It's funny... people discuss their destiny and say they have no control of their fate... heh, right.

Some people here is so paranoid... I just cant belive it!

The paranoid people think everthing is scams and dont belive a shit. Strange things happens all day long in this world!


I belive 110% in this, specially after readning the article and looking at the pictures.


Lightspeed, if you dont belive in this and dont give him lifetime free membership or atleast something...your making a mistake.

god will bless you if you give him something if its true and god will
bless you if its a scam.

Also so tierd of the macho people, thats so afraid of looking stupid when something seems not to be real(for them). Whats wrong with being stupid?

( ok, my english is not good...Im one of the stupid people)



I started to belive after the WTC...

CRAZYNAKEDCHICK- I DO APOLOGIZE. I HAVE BEEN VERY TIRED AND SHOULD'VE WRITTEN A DIFFERENT LETTER EACH TIME BUT I JUST GOT SO EXCITED WHEN I STARTED RECEIVING AUTOGRAPHED PICS FROM PEOPLE I ADMIRE THAT I SOON WANTED TO COLLECT ONE FROM EVERYONE I THOUGHT WAS WORTH REMEMBERING. I WILL NOW ONLY WRITE ADULT MODELS EVERY NOW AND THEN AND I AM GOING TO MAKE IT PERSONAL. ALL THIS EBAY AND SELLING STUFF ALL STEMS FROM ME SELLING A FEW PIECES OF ART THAT I HAD MULTIPLE PIECES FROM EACH ARTIST IN ORDER TO HELP PURCHASE A WHEELCHAIR LIFT VAN. THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO AND I HAVE NEVER SOLD ANYTHING SINCE. I AM STILL SUFFERING THE REPROCUSSIONS OF THAT SALE.

Dragon has been my bitch for 6 years.

gavin, if you are wanting to do auctions i would think many girls would even willingly allow you to auction their stuff to help supplement your income, you already see how many are willing to do what they can to make your day to day life more comfortable.

just ask them outright, "hey, would you be willing to give me a signed glossy that i can auction on ebay so that i may upgrade my equipment/lift/etc?". i bet many of them would be happy to help you in that way. i now feel badly for not having responded to any of your emails over the years, but my amateur inbox is a freakshow. then when i started getting the same one every few months or so i took it as a scam. once other girls started talking about the same email it pretty much ballooned from there.

A friend of mine uses it, she swears by it, but does nothing but complain that it's hard to train. She doesnt need it. She claims she cannot type because of carpel tunnel. But she is able to work in a warehouse every few months amd spend countless hours on irc as well as drawing alot. SHe is what I lieek to call "just wants a free ride" Government is always putting her thorugh school and shit to work with computers. Well if she really has carpel, using pc's at work AND at home is going to make it worse. That's what gives "REAL" disabled people a bad rep.

How long did it take you to train your "bitch" ?

i guess i should clarify, that she doesnt use any aids on irc or for drwaing, it's all fingers

ohh..Gavin is here.


Hi Gavin =)








If you couldnt figure he sold pics on ebay because he needed money....then you just stupid

Man, that's terrible. I had to drop out of college because I couldn't get the proper assistance I needed. I'll go back when I'm ready and can afford to get the right assistance.

People always ask me if I can hook them up with extras, or say I should use my disability more to my advantage. I guess I have too much pride to do that. Who knows, but I won't do it.

Anyway, the initial training took a couple hours. I actually had someone teach me how to use it, someone from the company. But now when I install it on new computers it takes about 30 minutes. The new versions train much quicker, but they're terrible for hand coding, which is what I do. So, I use the original version I have, which is about 6 years old.

Some things I can do real quick, but others take a little longer. It's all good.

carrie- i have the pics with me and todays paper. i know smileygirl won't pay up but i will email them right now to anyone here that can post them. [email protected]

maxjohan- i have all my photos still. there are very few adult model photos with any resale value especially after inscribing "to gavin" i am out to have the largest collection of autographed photos not just the ones i couldn't sell. everyone sees the short term goal here...

dear 'carrie' i like you very much whoever you are. i will have to decline your very kind offer of the dragon software as i know it to be very expensive and many here would claim i was ebaying it too. as upset as a doubter or name slinger has made me today; your and donovan's posts have made me feel good. thank you.

CRAZYNAKEDCHICK- you are right, i have met some very nice adult models. but let me say one last time to everyone, i want to have the largest collection of autographs from people i believe worthy. it's not about money! i write well enough that i would simply write organizations for money flat out if that was how shallow it was. i don't want to have a collection of photos that i wasn't able to resell. my mom asked me for kevin costner's pic and i even told her "no." i have the very first photo i ever wrote for [m. jordan/9 yrs. ago] and i have every photo i ever received since. also, to others, i believe quads can work too but if most are like me; you are sick or uncomfortable all the time. it's like your body has been amputated. hot/cold/nauseated/shakes/sweats/spasms/pain/burning/sleeplessness/bloated/can sit up long/can lay down very long/etc. i won't describe the indelicate side...

Here's an email I received from Gavin:

DEAR DONNY,
DON'T KNOW IF I REMEMBERED TO GIVE YOU MY HOME NUMBER. 8XX-4XX-2XXX
ALSO, CAN YOU PLEASE SCAN THIS IN TO GFY FOR ME. I WAS OFFERED 100 FOR THIS PHOTO...
THANK YOU DONNY. GAVIN

Looks like you owe the man $100.

Amazing That has got to be a bitch to handcode a web page with a voice typer. Hats Off to you

I think you kicks ass, Garvin...your a genius...soon you have your autographs(I hope) and media going to cover this sooner or later if you work the cards right..bling bling money for you...then you can buy a new wheelchair and friends will come...because you made a smart move...

Then just use you writing talant to make a book about your life..and so on


Thank me after you met all the big movie stars


maybe you dont have a plan? If you look for the above and want a plan, I give you this plan...because I dont have anything else to give you to make you a better living.

Gavin rules all.

So Gavin now your a GFY'er tell us who the most famous autographs you have.

hahaha...I feel so good after looking at the picture.


I just say one thing...go fuck yourself, if you didnt belive in this.



I am not stupid anymore