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#121

10-22-2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by ZoiNk

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In September 2003, the Acacia Technologies group caused 42 websites owned by Go Entertainment, Inc. to be closed down. The websites were continuing to utilize Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology in violation of a court order. The U.S. District Court for the Central District of California issued an injunction prohibiting Go Entertainment from continuing to use Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology without a license. The Acacia Technologies group successfully enforced the injunction against Go Entertainment's web hosting company.
On September 22, 2003, the Acacia Technologies group entered into a license agreement for its DMT technology with Go Entertainment, Inc.

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And the only reason they were shut down is they didn't respond to summons and didn't show up to court. Default judgement?

Not until they responded after having their sites shut down did they get back up.

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#122

10-22-2003, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

And the only reason they were shut down is they didn't respond to summons and didn't show up to court. Default judgement?

Not until they responded after having their sites shut down did they get back up.

Man ...
I wish they would sue me ...
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#123

10-22-2003, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by sexeducation

And the question remains ...
how are you proving your "grosse sales" to calculate the 2%?

When Acacia says - "we don't believe your sales figures" now what? Give them all your affiliate details right?

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sexeducation,

What does affiliate info have to do with gross sales? They can confirm gross sales with tax returns, etc. They do not need affiliate info, nor would it help them confirm anything. Most large programs produce a lot of their own traffic and there is no direct and accurate coloration between affiliates and gross sales.

Speaking on behalf of Hustler, if they wanted to verify gross sales, we could easily do that without ever giving affiliate information. If they requested affiliate information for ANY reason we would deny them. Period.

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#124

10-22-2003, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Ken

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sexeducation,

What does affiliate info have to do with gross sales? They can confirm gross sales with tax returns, etc. They do not need affiliate info, nor would it help them confirm anything. Most large programs produce a lot of their own traffic and there is no direct and accurate coloration between affiliates and gross sales.

Speaking on behalf of Hustler, if they wanted to verify gross sales, we could easily do that without ever giving affiliate information. If they requested affiliate information for ANY reason we would deny them. Period.

Acacia asks for percentage of sales from processors.

Epoch/iBill/CCbill give up this information.

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#125

10-22-2003, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Ken

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sexeducation,

What does affiliate info have to do with gross sales? They can confirm gross sales with tax returns, etc. They do not need affiliate info, nor would it help them confirm anything. Most large programs produce a lot of their own traffic and there is no direct and accurate coloration between affiliates and gross sales.

Speaking on behalf of Hustler, if they wanted to verify gross sales, we could easily do that without ever giving affiliate information. If they requested affiliate information for ANY reason we would deny them. Period.

That's what you are saying ...
and you have valid points ..

But so is it a valid point - "aaah lets just settle - it's only 2%" ...

and so it is a valid point - "aaah it's to much work - just dump the affililiate dbase and give it to them" ... "one more step won't matter" ...
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#126

10-22-2003, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Platinum Dave

Acacia asks for percentage of sales from processors.

Epoch/iBill/CCbill give up this information.

What information are they giving up?
Credit Card Numbers ?
First Names ...
Last Names ...
Addresses ...

It's a simple question ...

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#127

10-22-2003, 07:55 PM

In our contact with Acacia ... our lawyers were careful to specifically state that 'gross sales' only applies to membership sales.

That is Epoch, CCbill, iBill, WTS Checks, Electracash Checks, etc ... revenue

and nothing else.

So any audit would only require providing revenue info for these processors -- and this would be done through our accounting / law firrms.

No webmaster information was ever nor will ever be released.

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#128

10-22-2003, 07:56 PM

They want total sales

they want percentage of sales

processors give them sales totals

thats it.

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#129

10-22-2003, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Platinum Dave
They want total sales

they want percentage of sales

processors give them sales totals

thats it.

Dave ...
this is NOT confrontational to you personally or GFY the gracious hosts of this board ...

BULLSHIT ...
and when Acacia says; "we don't believe your sales figures PROVE THEM ... now what?"
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#130

10-22-2003, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by sexeducation

Dave ...
this is NOT confrontational to you personally or GFY the gracious hosts of this board ...

BULLSHIT ...
and when Acacia says; "we don't believe your sales figures PROVE THEM ... now what?"

They knock on Paycom door and ask for sales for the year \

and epoch gives it to them

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#131

10-22-2003, 08:03 PM

For the uninformed posting in this thread:

SexEd is a half-crazed, kiddie loving, pervert who is completely delusional. Please don't waste your time responding to him or thinking that he actually has a lucid thought in his demented head.

On a side note, you will also be noticing that he will continue to post and ramble in this thread for hours (or till the booze/pills drops him), even though no one is addressing him. He will also be putting unrelated and unimportant phrases/words in "quotation marks" and announcing idiotic things such as, "I will not report to Acacia!!!!" "They have no rights to my member's database!!!" "Where do I get the report form??", etc. Of course, no one gives a shit about any of this, or knows what he's talking about.

This can easily be confirmed with virtually any member of this board.

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#132

10-22-2003, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Platinum Dave

They knock on Paycom door and ask for sales for the year \

and epoch gives it to them

OK - and what does Epoch give them?
Credit Numbers traceable to home ("billing") addresses?

What information do I need to provide Acacia to PROVE my sales?
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#133

10-22-2003, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Platinum Dave

They knock on Paycom door and ask for sales for the year \

and epoch gives it to them

And you know what ...
I have 20 years of direct sales experience ...

who the hell says I need to sell online ...

Now what information are they going to ask me to PROVE my sales totals?
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#134

10-22-2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Holly
For the uninformed posting in this thread:

SexEd is a half-crazed, kiddie loving, pervert who is completely delusional. Please don't waste your time responding to him or thinking that he actually has a lucid thought in his demented head.

On a side note, you will also be noticing that he will continue to post and ramble in this thread for hours (or till the booze/pills drops him), even though no one is addressing him. He will also be putting unrelated and unimportant phrases/words in "quotation marks" and announcing idiotic things such as, "I will not report to Acacia!!!!" "They have no rights to my member's database!!!" "Where do I get the report form??", etc. Of course, no one gives a shit about any of this, or knows what he's talking about.

This can easily be confirmed with virtually any member of this board.

Thanks.

Yep! The retard even posted the following in another thread:

I've decided to inform my 20,000 double opt in members about Acacia during the first ever "data base" update and request input on whether I should report their details of membership to Acacia as it seems is being asked.

What the fuck is he talking about????
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#135

10-22-2003, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by sexeducation

And you know what ...
I have 20 years of direct sales experience ...

who the hell says I need to sell online ...

Now what information are they going to ask me to PROVE my sales totals?

Not only how do they prove your info

what are they going to shut down, what can they get from you?

it just doesnt make sence they are sending these packages to just anyone

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