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  • PHmike
    Registered User
    • Nov 2002
    • 71

    #51
    DMR - $900,000
    IEG - $2,000,0000 for penthouse live

    Who can beat that?
    I am hiring.

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    • pr0
      rockin tha trailerpark
      • May 2001
      • 23088

      #52
      Originally posted by PHmike
      DMR - $900,000
      IEG - $2,000,0000 for penthouse live

      Who can beat that?
      50,000 niteline, ok so its not 2,000,000
      __________
      Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

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      • LunaC
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 148

        #53
        Just once, for ~$800

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        • bhutocracy
          Not making A Comeback
          • Dec 2001
          • 10218

          #54
          2 times in the past 2 months. both clients, about $1600.

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          • Jakke PNG
            ex-TeenGodFather
            • Nov 2001
            • 20306

            #55
            Plenty, and plenty of times.. luckily for just small sums like 200$, 400$, 700$...
            but quite quickly they add up. I think I should have made around $3k more last year from my designs than I actually made.
            What great business this is.. such honesty.
            ..and I'm off.

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            • SinEmpire
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2001
              • 9813

              #56
              Looks like Pr0 and PHmike win..

              Brad
              President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
              71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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              • vegasdude
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 3649

                #57
                well this one time at campus


                lets just say $XX.XXX on internet casinos run by criminals. Im so lucky I found a casino I can trust cuz I was starting to feel the paranoia!

                lost a few on stupid sponsors also....

                but it all turned out good

                The end. (turning up audioslave)
                Last edited by vegasdude; 01-14-2003, 06:23 AM.
                Did you fucking talk to me??!
                Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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                • Slussar
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 6

                  #58
                  I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.

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                  • FlyingIguana
                    aspiring banker
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 10870

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Slussar
                    I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.
                    not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.

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                    • SinEmpire
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 9813

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Slussar
                      I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.
                      You know nothing.
                      President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                      71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                      • Slussar
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 6

                        #61
                        not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a
                        merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.


                        Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

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                        • Slussar
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 6

                          #62
                          not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a
                          merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.


                          Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

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                          • bignosejimmy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 136

                            #63
                            Dmr

                            And

                            Primeinternet. Don't ever deal with these people. Their scripts don't work, they have horrible tech support, they don't return your calls or answer your emails and they continued to charge me after I canceled for a product that was working half the time. They are also one of Ibill's preferred partners, that should give you a good indication of how well they operate!
                            Icq: 176664746

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                            • PHmike
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 71

                              #64
                              Originally posted by SinEmpire
                              Looks like Pr0 and PHmike win..

                              Brad
                              I know of some worse cases than us, but I don't think they post here.
                              I am hiring.

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                              • originalheather
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 17

                                #65
                                Years ago by the Adult Candy people who were running a fly-by-night processing business for my old phone sex service. Screwed me out of a couple grand. I think everyone on the net was screwed by them if they were dumb enough to do business with them. I admit to being dumb.

                                WTSbank, aka ACHdebit, they deliberately shut off my checking processing with about 5 days notice over a fuckup with security on their scripts which was causing easy hacking and running my bandwidth through the ceiling, plus they weren't expiring cancels, which happened too many times to count. They didn't want to reimburse my costs for fixing the mess, so they shut me down over about 900 bucks after 3 years of proccessing, backing them up when they lost their merchant account and promoting them vigorously for zip in commissions that whole time. They see it differently. but I lost about 1500 a month in recurrings that were so old the sufers had forgotten they belonged. Only got about 5 back. This was about 6 months ago, at a time I sure couldn't afford to lose the income. Incredibly, they were all sweet to me in Vegas and still are suffering under the delusion that they did nothing wrong, though Chuck admitted that they had permissions set wrong, etc. They've threatened to sue me if I spoke out. I'd suggest they do so. Can't be convicted for telling the truth.

                                Ibill, who can't seem to get their stats right. They disagree, I say they still owe me.

                                Mojo from Standard Internet, who got some cracked idea that I was conspiring with Serge to damage him, so he stopped paying my recurrings on pornstories.com for about 3 months. Cost me about 4K. Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.

                                Every dialer I ever used..they always found some lame excuse not to pay. I haven't used one lately, I hear there are some good ones now.

                                Shaved? Hah, hard to prove, but it's been blatantly obvious with a shocking percentage of sponsors. I'm not naming names with this one, cause I have no proof.

                                Taken in perspective, it's been a very small percentage of my income over the years, but it's never fun being fucked over. It's just a risk we run being in a business where a certain percentage of people were probably criminals in their previous dealings, most of us should consider ourselves lucky that it didn't happen more.
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                                • PostWhore
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 4720

                                  #66
                                  one word!

                                  clickcash
                                  Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!

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                                  • 12clicks
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 19816

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Dveron
                                    2 times since 98, not bad. Once by All Clicks and once by some click prog Brad Shaw used to run, can't even remember the name.
                                    hahaha, how did I miss this?
                                    dveron, what was the site you where sending allclicks traffic from?
                                    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                    • dantheman
                                      OG
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 3308

                                      #68
                                      three letters

                                      DMR for a ton

                                      oh well, live and learn
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                                      • L0stMind
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 1681

                                        #69
                                        Many times, but only twice for big money...

                                        a german client in 2000 for like $80k and recently by another client for like $35k.

                                        I gotta stop being so nice to people.

                                        http://cashcore.com
                                        - Make Money.
                                        http://ezprovider.net - Hosting.

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                                        • alibaba
                                          Registered User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 89

                                          #70
                                          I'm glad to have a chance to write this

                                          Epoch - $25.000 in it's bad days, but it still hurts,

                                          Primenetwork.net - They just cut the plug to my server and tease me when I say I'll not host for them by the next months, so childish,

                                          A dutch lawyer fucked up my $3000 promising to open 3 offshore companies for me,

                                          A bastard tried to sell my offshore company on EBay,

                                          well there are more, but this maybe enough...

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                                          • angelsofporn
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 3218

                                            #71
                                            i got screwed last week for the first time in this biz..they will remain nameless but you can find the thread easily..only a couple grand..could have ben worse

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                                            • 12clicks
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19816

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by originalheather


                                              Mojo from Standard Internet, who got some cracked idea that I was conspiring with Serge to damage him, so he stopped paying my recurrings on pornstories.com for about 3 months. Cost me about 4K. Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.

                                              you're still around you lying piece of shit?
                                              after burning as many bridges as you have, I'm surprized you still have an internet connection.

                                              I'm amazed at the abilities of complete morons to hang around in this business.
                                              Last edited by 12clicks; 01-17-2003, 08:15 AM.
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                              • Dveron
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 2794

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by 12clicks


                                                hahaha, how did I miss this?
                                                dveron, what was the site you where sending allclicks traffic from?
                                                I dunno it was like 2 years ago, like I said before Ron I wrote it off as charitable donation.
                                                Adult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.

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                                                • 12clicks
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 19816

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Dveron


                                                  I dunno it was like 2 years ago, like I said before Ron I wrote it off as charitable donation.
                                                  you should think of it as more of a fine for not doing the right thing.
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                  • chupacabra
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 3626

                                                    #75
                                                    does the word "TransCharge" mean anything to anyone here? screwed us out of thousands, i hope noone else here has also had the misfortune to have dealt w/ those guys..
                                                    ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                    • Thumbelina
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 675

                                                      #76
                                                      Twice last year, one a ripoff artist selling a bogus site.........from Isreal.........made no bones about it ........he cruised forums for people wanting to by sites etc.................He told us that he had no problem ripping people off...............1k

                                                      The other one is a Fellow Canadian that promised to sell his site half up front , half when site was transfered...............when I wired him the money ......he backed out and demanded more money...........We cancelled the deal and he would not return the money back..............

                                                      The worst thing is that he still deals on this forum and said that we could try anything to get it back...............

                                                      He is from Winnipeg..........and is a total jackass...........
                                                      <a href="http://www.bimbolinks.com"><img src="http://www.12circle.com/banners/bimbo_120x60.jpg"border="0"></a><BR>

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                                                      • Mojo
                                                        Used to be a Legend
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 356

                                                        #77
                                                        >>>>>>>>>>>
                                                        Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.
                                                        >>>>>>>>>>>



                                                        Heather,
                                                        DMR was a 3rd party processor that went out of business 3 years ago. There were no recurrings. All billing ceased.

                                                        Please explain exactly how you paidreccurings on billings that were not processed. You can't because you are a liar.


                                                        BTW: I still have your email about your wish that my children would die in a car accident in the Ferrari. You're a class act.
                                                        -12clicks wears fancy boots.

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                                                        • andrew1009
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 801

                                                          #78
                                                          INTERGAL still owes me about $400 from Oct. I'm also still waiting on a SexyAVS check for $60... from a couple months ago.

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                                                          • railz
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                            • 2531

                                                            #79
                                                            So far I'm up to about $4000 in designs and layouts. Since I changed to 100% up-front for new clients, not one single problem.
                                                            This Space for Rent

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