How many times have you been fucked over?

DMR - $900,000
IEG - $2,000,0000 for penthouse live

Who can beat that?

50,000 niteline, ok so its not 2,000,000

Just once, for ~$800

2 times in the past 2 months. both clients, about $1600.

Plenty, and plenty of times.. luckily for just small sums like 200$, 400$, 700$...
but quite quickly they add up. I think I should have made around $3k more last year from my designs than I actually made.
What great business this is.. such honesty.

Looks like Pr0 and PHmike win..

Brad

well this one time at campus


lets just say $XX.XXX on internet casinos run by criminals. Im so lucky I found a casino I can trust cuz I was starting to feel the paranoia!

lost a few on stupid sponsors also....

but it all turned out good

The end. (turning up audioslave)

I see a lot of you webmaster's complaining about 3rd party processors and aggregators. My question is why do you continue to stay with them then? Get a merchant account for your company, and have a direct relation with the processing bank. It's just my and it only makes sense because your rates are a hell of a lot lower.

not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.

You know nothing.

not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a
merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.


Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

not sure how it is in the states, but around here they won't give you a
merchant account for any online business. let alone porn.


Flyingiguana... You can still get a merchant account in the states if you run a sex shop online, dvd movies, toys or actually storefront(shop) that sort of item, but the place of business has to reside in the states. As for the adult merchant accounts, you sure can with different offshore banks. I set them up all day long. That is why I can't beleive there arn't more webmasters getting there own accounts more often. No, they would rather bitch about paying 12%-15% and not getting paid on a regular bases then spend some money and get a real account.

Dmr

And

Primeinternet. Don't ever deal with these people. Their scripts don't work, they have horrible tech support, they don't return your calls or answer your emails and they continued to charge me after I canceled for a product that was working half the time. They are also one of Ibill's preferred partners, that should give you a good indication of how well they operate!

I know of some worse cases than us, but I don't think they post here.

Years ago by the Adult Candy people who were running a fly-by-night processing business for my old phone sex service. Screwed me out of a couple grand. I think everyone on the net was screwed by them if they were dumb enough to do business with them. I admit to being dumb.

WTSbank, aka ACHdebit, they deliberately shut off my checking processing with about 5 days notice over a fuckup with security on their scripts which was causing easy hacking and running my bandwidth through the ceiling, plus they weren't expiring cancels, which happened too many times to count. They didn't want to reimburse my costs for fixing the mess, so they shut me down over about 900 bucks after 3 years of proccessing, backing them up when they lost their merchant account and promoting them vigorously for zip in commissions that whole time. They see it differently. but I lost about 1500 a month in recurrings that were so old the sufers had forgotten they belonged. Only got about 5 back. This was about 6 months ago, at a time I sure couldn't afford to lose the income. Incredibly, they were all sweet to me in Vegas and still are suffering under the delusion that they did nothing wrong, though Chuck admitted that they had permissions set wrong, etc. They've threatened to sue me if I spoke out. I'd suggest they do so. Can't be convicted for telling the truth.

Ibill, who can't seem to get their stats right. They disagree, I say they still owe me.

Mojo from Standard Internet, who got some cracked idea that I was conspiring with Serge to damage him, so he stopped paying my recurrings on pornstories.com for about 3 months. Cost me about 4K. Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.

Every dialer I ever used..they always found some lame excuse not to pay. I haven't used one lately, I hear there are some good ones now.

Shaved? Hah, hard to prove, but it's been blatantly obvious with a shocking percentage of sponsors. I'm not naming names with this one, cause I have no proof.

Taken in perspective, it's been a very small percentage of my income over the years, but it's never fun being fucked over. It's just a risk we run being in a business where a certain percentage of people were probably criminals in their previous dealings, most of us should consider ourselves lucky that it didn't happen more.

one word!

clickcash

hahaha, how did I miss this?
dveron, what was the site you where sending allclicks traffic from?

three letters

DMR for a ton

oh well, live and learn

Many times, but only twice for big money...

a german client in 2000 for like $80k and recently by another client for like $35k.

I gotta stop being so nice to people.

I'm glad to have a chance to write this

Epoch - $25.000 in it's bad days, but it still hurts,

Primenetwork.net - They just cut the plug to my server and tease me when I say I'll not host for them by the next months, so childish,

A dutch lawyer fucked up my $3000 promising to open 3 offshore companies for me,

A bastard tried to sell my offshore company on EBay,

well there are more, but this maybe enough...

i got screwed last week for the first time in this biz..they will remain nameless but you can find the thread easily..only a couple grand..could have ben worse

you're still around you lying piece of shit?
after burning as many bridges as you have, I'm surprized you still have an internet connection.

I'm amazed at the abilities of complete morons to hang around in this business.

I dunno it was like 2 years ago, like I said before Ron I wrote it off as charitable donation.

you should think of it as more of a fine for not doing the right thing.

does the word "TransCharge" mean anything to anyone here? screwed us out of thousands, i hope noone else here has also had the misfortune to have dealt w/ those guys..

Twice last year, one a ripoff artist selling a bogus site.........from Isreal.........made no bones about it ........he cruised forums for people wanting to by sites etc.................He told us that he had no problem ripping people off...............1k

The other one is a Fellow Canadian that promised to sell his site half up front , half when site was transfered...............when I wired him the money ......he backed out and demanded more money...........We cancelled the deal and he would not return the money back..............

The worst thing is that he still deals on this forum and said that we could try anything to get it back...............

He is from Winnipeg..........and is a total jackass...........

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Also never paid out when DMR went down, didn't think he owed it. When I lost my WTS cc processing, I paid my partners, but Robert doesn't think that he owed his partners anything. He thought I was stupid to pay partners when I didn't get paid, but I believe that if you have a webmaster sending you signups, you owe him. If you don't get paid by your processor, that's your problem, your webmasters MUST be paid. Right about the time he let everyone hang for the DMR stuff, he bought a Ferrari. Guess it would have been two if DMR hadn't made him so poor he couldn't stand by his webmasters.
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Heather,
DMR was a 3rd party processor that went out of business 3 years ago. There were no recurrings. All billing ceased.

Please explain exactly how you paidreccurings on billings that were not processed. You can't because you are a liar.


BTW: I still have your email about your wish that my children would die in a car accident in the Ferrari. You're a class act.

INTERGAL still owes me about $400 from Oct. I'm also still waiting on a SexyAVS check for $60... from a couple months ago.

So far I'm up to about $4000 in designs and layouts. Since I changed to 100% up-front for new clients, not one single problem.