Anyone know about the litigation in California involving iBill & celebrity sites?

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  • pet kangaroo
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 246

    #1

    Anyone know about the litigation in California involving iBill & celebrity sites?

    Apparently there's something going on, that's why they're holding all celeb sites funds and refusing to hand them over.

    I don't run a celeb site by the way, just heard about this.
  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #2
    Do you know which sites ? Is this another Perfect 10 and Norm Zadeh thing ?

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    • Hentai
      Registered User
      • Sep 2002
      • 52

      #3
      Maybe this? "PERFECT 10 has sued the largest AVS and will be suing the second largest AVS shortly. "
      http://www.perfect10.com/news.html

      What does Perfect10 have to do with celebs anyway?

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      • Matt_WildCash
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 1699

        #4
        Originally posted by Hentai
        Maybe this? "PERFECT 10 has sued the largest AVS and will be suing the second largest AVS shortly. "
        http://www.perfect10.com/news.html

        What does Perfect10 have to do with celebs anyway?
        Yep noticed how Adultbouncer removed ALL of there 150 celebrity sites after reading that article i'm sure.

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        • Brujah
          Beer Money Baron
          • Jan 2001
          • 22157

          #5
          Well, I think it goes like this...

          Norm doesn't make enough money because people with celebrity sites are unfair competition. He has to spend $25,000 for every image, $7,500 for a hammer, and I think $65,000 for a toilet seat. He shops at the pentagon. So since it's unfair, Norm wants the justice system to shut his competition down and award him lots of money to compensate for things. If you want lots of money, you target companies with lots of money that enable this unfairness to be profitable. The billing companies make a good target.

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          • Interlude
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2001
            • 1147

            #6
            What Brujah said, although it's complicated by the fact that lots of celebrity sites used to do shady shit like posting fakes and using P-10 pictures in them. It's a money-grabbing scam, plain and simple, which is why he's going after processors instead of the sites themselves.

            Basically, imagine if your models sued you even though they don't own the copyrights to your content, or if your competition sued you because their photographer charges 50X more than yours. I'm not surprised though, this guy employs a very high-profile law firm in SoCal that I'm sure costs a pretty penny just to send cease-and-decist emails to people. It's no wonder he claims P-10 spends $10,000 per photo, it's probably all legal fees.

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            • pet kangaroo
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 246

              #7
              Can't see anything new on that Perfect 10 site. Obtaining an injunction on an AVS is one thing, but a 3rd party billing company is somewhat different. The member is not joining the billing company like they do with an AVS.

              Perhaps iBill is using this whole issue as a means of keeping some money to help them out of their current crisis??

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              • ZoiNk
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 2370

                #8
                Originally posted by pet kangaroo
                Can't see anything new on that Perfect 10 site. Obtaining an injunction on an AVS is one thing, but a 3rd party billing company is somewhat different. The member is not joining the billing company like they do with an AVS.

                Perhaps iBill is using this whole issue as a means of keeping some money to help them out of their current crisis??
                Ibill's dying, bail while you can
                ZoiNk
                "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

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                • Cogitator
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 672

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZoiNk
                  Ibill's dying, bail while you can
                  You know something we don't?
                  - this space intentionally left blank -

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                  • Trax
                    [----------------------]
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 14486

                    #10
                    what processors allow celeb sites then?? any ideas

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                    • smproduction
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 508

                      #11
                      "Ibill's dying,..."

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                      "You know something we don't?"
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