Originally posted by iwantchixx
I find nothing musical about it.
I find nothing musical about it.
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who cares about what you might or might not find musical?we'll miss you our friend. RIP -
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that and the armanian Power guys.
You ever seen a thugged out Armanian Power skin?
Low riding cut off dickies with the white socks pulled up to the knees and everything. Tatted up and shaved head.
even they beat down white boys that go over board.
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oh jeez, you think street gangs started in 1968? Give me a fucking break. Never read West Side Story I guess.Originally posted by Candyman69
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In the year '68 seven teenagers who named themselves the "Savage Seven" started to terrorize their neighbourhood and with their activities they laid the groundwork for something that domineered the Bronx during the next 6 years: Streetgangs. Within shortest time gangs appeared on every street corner
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In the strictest sense, this is actually true.Originally posted by iwantchixx
I feel sorry that you don;t see the truth. I find nothing musical about it. There is no theory involved in rap what so ever. Rap groups are nothing more than an acting groups. Like ok, there are SOME notes involved. But playing the same whining background noise over and over and slightly varying the LFO does NOT count.
Rap is poetry and should be studied in English class.
However, I classify it as music. Perhaps it's dymmetrically opposite to other forms such as death metal, but I'd argue that at least some of it is music.
In songs by rappers like Snoop you have a melody, a rhythm (one that repeats itself - ok no bridge).
The emphasis in the 'music' is on the lyrics and it's delivery. I'm no expert on it. This is just the way I understand it.Last edited by Bobo; 01-12-2003, 11:40 PM.Comment
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nah, i am a rogue element.Originally posted by drunkdollars
YT are you guys really based in colorado?
the actual company hq is in texas.
taylor and mike are from cali but mike lives in tx now, mikey is from atlanta, alex is from maryland but i think he moved to tx, and mike moose is from vegas. everyone else hails from tx. i think we might all move to florida though soon i dunno.Comment
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what about other side? I left that other side years ago. I have been better off ever since. I cannot stand homies. Nothing but thieving drug engorged wastes of the system. Not one homie i dealt with has been an honest person. They all stole. They all try to be like the rappers on tv. They all carried weapons. They all think they are so fucking cool because they wear their hats sideways and talk with more hand action than a drunk frenchmen. I used to have alot of homie friends. But the more I watched them become lemmings the more I realized having them around me was giving me a bad rep with my other peers as well as the law.
now that I'm older I see more and more homies on the street rapping to themselves in their red elephant sized pants that all all about to fall down. I walk by them and it's like "yo wa da fuk bro!? wasssup!" So I responde, "is that all you know how to say? see you in the welfare line, or better yet, I'lls ee you in court when I'm forced to go for jury duty to put your ass behind bars because youc an;t be yourself and a law abiding citizen"
The usual response is of an offensive nature, from what I gather anyways, considering it's all broken sentences with slang that makes no fucking sense and an accent that reminds me of a drunk alcoholic 73 year old bumm with no teeth.Comment
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Wiggers...love this topic. Where else in the world do you have a culture that roots itself in the poorest, least educated, most voiceless aspects of society? Where else do you have the rich imitating the poor?Comment
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I hope you are sitting down DrG . . . . .Originally posted by DrGuile
Learn more about Hiphop at your school library...
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that one story prince and the pauperOriginally posted by OneHungLo
Wiggers...love this topic. Where else in the world do you have a culture that roots itself in the poorest, least educated, most voiceless aspects of society? Where else do you have the rich imitating the poor?Comment
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I'm a musician. So i care. It's no wheres near musical.Comment
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uh my man,I am actually the defintion of what a white person surrounded by hiphop culture should be.We don't try to prove ourselves,theres no act behind it. I was on Killer Mikes street team,you're down with the culture I'm sure you know who he's associated with,all 19 years of my life I've bene the exact same person. I was basically born into rap music but it didn't mold my character.I know nothing on you but these other fools are completly fake...Usually I would have been all over this and making fun of them but I'm so damn tired... You can spot a fake person by taking them out of their natural environment and seeing how they act,woucie and TDF are blacker than black but if we didnt know that in advance we wouldnt know at all! why?? BECAUSE THERES NO ACT ... If these guys didnt post their pics most of us could have still spotted their were white surburban kidsOriginally posted by Candyman69
you should marry iwantchixxx
let me sleep go study somemore lyrics
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i play the guitar and the drums and the kazooOriginally posted by iwantchixx
I'm a musician. So i care. It's no wheres near musical.
canada is full of muscians and comedians
and they are actually good
therefore i concede i will not argue with this manComment
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Yeah? What instrument(s) do you play? I play saxophone, guitar, bass, and drums.Originally posted by iwantchixx
I'm a musician. So i care. It's no wheres near musical.
It may not be music in the strictest form but it's better than a lot of the 'music' I hear on the radio. Three chord punk pop songs just don't cut it, musically that is.Comment
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Originally posted by OneHungLo
Wiggers...love this topic. Where else in the world do you have a culture that roots itself in the poorest, least educated, most voiceless aspects of society? Where else do you have the rich imitating the poor?
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I'll drink to thatOriginally posted by nocostporn
uh my man,I am actually the defintion of what a white person surrounded by hiphop culture should be.We don't try to prove ourselves,theres no act behind it. I was on Killer Mikes street team,you're down with the culture I'm sure you know who he's associated with,all 19 years of my life I've bene the exact same person. I was basically born into rap music but it didn't mold my character.I know nothing on you but these other fools are completly fake...Usually I would have been all over this and making fun of them but I'm so damn tired... You can spot a fake person by taking them out of their natural environment and seeing how they act,woucie and TDF are blacker than black but if we didnt know that in advance we wouldnt know at all! why?? BECAUSE THERES NO ACT ... If these guys didnt post their pics most of us could have still spotted their were white surburban kids
let me sleep go study somemore lyrics
It's 2:35am, I'm calling it a night my dayum self.Comment
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Maybe just maybe this "wigger" fad would lose it's image if the media stops giving it so much attention. It is only acts like "eminem" ( i'm not defacing his character only stating my opinion) that are the hood ornaments for the media. They're only capitalizing on a culture that is losing it's meaning and becoming commercialized just like many things. It is this same greed and demeanor in people that puts a losing purpose on the whole culture. Unfortunately, it is evolving into something that was never meant to be. Also, it is sad to see to people put a one sided judgement onto such a dynamic artform. If this is how it (hip hop music/culture)continues to go there won't be any positives to come out of it. It will die down along with the rest.Comment
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Sp1200, Juno 106, Technics 1200, Tr808, MPCFamily, Various Vinyl.Originally posted by Bobo
Yeah? What instrument(s) do you play? I play saxophone, guitar, bass, and drums.
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Where in Co are you at?Originally posted by ytcracker
nah, i am a rogue element.
the actual company hq is in texas.
taylor and mike are from cali but mike lives in tx now, mikey is from atlanta, alex is from maryland but i think he moved to tx, and mike moose is from vegas. everyone else hails from tx. i think we might all move to florida though soon i dunno.
My buddy just bought a place out there.SIGS ARE GAY
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yea but then it becomes a grassroots punk movement - "i was a wigger before it was cool" kind of thingOriginally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
Maybe just maybe this "wigger" fad would lose it's image if the media stops giving it so much attention. It is only acts like "eminem" ( i'm not defacing his character only stating my opinion) that are the hood ornaments for the media. They're only capitalizing on a culture that is losing it's meaning and becoming commercialized just like many things. It is this same greed and demeanor in people that puts a losing purpose on the whole culture. Unfortunately, it is evolving into something that was never meant to be. Also, it is sad to see to people put a one sided judgement onto such a dynamic artform. If this is how it (hip hop music/culture)continues to go there won't be any positives to come out of it. It will die down along with the rest.
there is no escaping it
in all honesty, i don't define myself as a wigger and all of you would beg to differ on all counts but fuck the bullshit labret says i will die alone so it matters notComment
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I'm considering getting a drum kit to fuck around with. But since I'm an appartment dweller I think I'd need a decent trigger activated practice kit. Any ideas? I loved banging out metalicca tunes on my ex bandmates kit. Metalica is so ... uhm neanderthal, AND FUN!Originally posted by ytcracker
i play the guitar and the drums and the kazoo
canada is full of muscians and comedians
and they are actually good
therefore i concede i will not argue with this manComment
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colorado springsOriginally posted by drunkdollars
Where in Co are you at?
My buddy just bought a place out there.Comment
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Originally posted by Bobo
Yeah? What instrument(s) do you play? I play saxophone, guitar, bass, and drums.
It may not be music in the strictest form but it's better than a lot of the 'music' I hear on the radio. Three chord punk pop songs just don't cut it, musically that is.
harsh stuff isnt it? Well I play bass, guitar, and sadly sequencer drum machines, (they suck ass!) Kind ahard to write songs withought some form of drumsComment
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im big on softsynths like reason and shit. in our studio(angelpool.iuma.com - not thug shit, HIPHOP) we have a korg triton, but my friend paul is the expert on that one.Originally posted by iwantchixx
I'm considering getting a drum kit to fuck around with. But since I'm an appartment dweller I think I'd need a decent trigger activated practice kit. Any ideas? I loved banging out metalicca tunes on my ex bandmates kit. Metalica is so ... uhm neanderthal, AND FUN!
i'm a dj first and foremost - i spin and produce those gritty florida breaks. i think electronic is the way to go, plus you can just pop on your headphones and disturb no one.Comment
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No DankCash is based in Houston, Texas. One of our team is from Colorado, a great place to live I hear :-]
Everyone seems to think our company has anything to do with hip-hop but that was part of our debut appearance at the players ball. YTC has skills and he deserved what he got this year, I'm proud of him and happy to have him on my team.
Leave him alone guys, his potential is huge.
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I don't even know if there is such a thing as 'hip-hop culture' s it stands. It's something created by businessmen to sell records and it's been successful. Hip-hop is synonymous with MTV.Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
Maybe just maybe this "wigger" fad would lose it's image if the media stops giving it so much attention. It is only acts like "eminem" ( i'm not defacing his character only stating my opinion) that are the hood ornaments for the media. They're only capitalizing on a culture that is losing it's meaning and becoming commercialized just like many things. It is this same greed and demeanor in people that puts a losing purpose on the whole culture. Unfortunately, it is evolving into something that was never meant to be. Also, it is sad to see to people put a one sided judgement onto such a dynamic artform. If this is how it (hip hop music/culture)continues to go there won't be any positives to come out of it. It will die down along with the rest.
I could care less if the 'fad' lives or dies. Hair bands and 'glam culture?' died in the 80s and I still find myself listening to Motley Cru's song 'Dr Feelgood' and enjoying it *holds head down in shame*Comment
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you have an authentic 808? i bow to youOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
Sp1200, Juno 106, Technics 1200, Tr808, MPCFamily, Various Vinyl.
i got an oxygen 8 hahahahahahComment
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Id rather get the practice kit with the triggers. I get mroe of a kick out of hitting things than programming beats heheOriginally posted by ytcracker
im big on softsynths like reason and shit. in our studio(angelpool.iuma.com - not thug shit, HIPHOP) we have a korg triton, but my friend paul is the expert on that one.
i'm a dj first and foremost - i spin and produce those gritty florida breaks. i think electronic is the way to go, plus you can just pop on your headphones and disturb no one.Comment
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It does not become a movement rather it evolves as the times do. As long as there is more dynamic output from the culture then it is thus the trendsetter. As long as the culutre continues to change with the times then the tides won't die down for a long time but the way it has become so commercialized at the same time brings the downfall.Originally posted by ytcracker
*yea but then it becomes a grassroots punk movement - "i was a wigger before it was cool" kind of thing*
there is no escaping it
in all honesty, i don't define myself as a wigger and all of you would beg to differ on all counts but fuck the bullshit labret says i will die alone so it matters notComment
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i get all my gear from prosound (pssl.com) - they are always running some sick deals. i don't know much about trigger kits but i can ask around.Originally posted by iwantchixx
Id rather get the practice kit with the triggers. I get mroe of a kick out of hitting things than programming beats heheComment
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YTC gave plenty of love to DankCash @ The Players Ball - We are happy to have him on our team. Hes one of our youngest/most talented characters, along with his programming experience and marketing techniques hell do fine. You can trust me on that ;-)
His sharpness and flawless skill on the computer impressed me. And yes guys I've been in this business since 1996, I'm not 20 like these guys, I just surround myself with the best talent. So far its payed off for years upon years.
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Originally posted by ytcracker
i get all my gear from prosound (pssl.com) - they are always running some sick deals. i don't know much about trigger kits but i can ask around.
I'd ask my ex drummer about it, but he's hardcore acoustic and wont use anything electronic for drums. Hell, he has 63 ludwigs he's so "hardcore" lolComment
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one loveOriginally posted by Wizzurd
YTC gave plenty of love to DankCash @ The Players Ball - We are happy to have him on our team. Hes one of our youngest/most talented characters, along with his programming experience and marketing techniques hell do fine. You can trust me on that ;-)
His sharpness and flawless skill on the computer impressed me. And yes guys I've been in this business since 1996, I'm not 20 like these guys, I just surround myself with the best talent. So far its payed off for years upon years.
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President, DC Inc.Comment
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uh oh, dancing gifsComment
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good idea
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christ thats overkill. i think the analog movement is/will be making a huge comeback. i love how tube amps and warm tones sound compared to digital - you simply can't fake it.Originally posted by iwantchixx
I'd ask my ex drummer about it, but he's hardcore acoustic and wont use anything electronic for drums. Hell, he has 63 ludwigs he's so "hardcore" lolComment
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When all else fails.
the Marauders will always bring the dancing gifs.
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hey isn't that choker's chicken?Originally posted by Fletch XXX
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I was asking the same earlier.Originally posted by FlyingIguana
hey isn't that choker's chicken?
its all over the net, I dont know whos it is, thats not his server, or mine.
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he dances pretty fastOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
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When all else fails.
the Marauders will always bring the dancing gifs.Comment
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Originally posted by ytcracker
christ thats overkill. i think the analog movement is/will be making a huge comeback. i love how tube amps and warm tones sound compared to digital - you simply can't fake it.
fucking shit, don't get me started on guitar tonealities. I fucking spit on solid state amplification lemmings. Nothing sounds warmer, fatter, more glassy than Tube amplification. My fav's are Mesa/Boogie and LaneyComment
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fat chicks in party hats?Originally posted by [Labret]
uh oh, dancing gifsComment
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I don't know if it's at all negative. I think it's actually brought ppl closer. I remember a time when if you listened to Metallica it wasn't proper for you to listen to Run DMC too.Originally posted by Hustlin Entertainment
It does not become a movement rather it evolves as the times do. As long as there is more dynamic output from the culture then it is thus the trendsetter. As long as the culutre continues to change with the times then the tides won't die down for a long time but the way it has become so commercialized at the same time brings the downfall.
Whatever we define 'rap' to be (music or not music) I think it's been positive in breaking down the stupid barriers that were once noticeable even in something so open as music (only black guys could play reggae, only white guys could play punk). Now you get so much crossover. It's probably a reflection of larger positive social changes.
You had to have a Vanilla Ice before you could have the Eminem. Eminem still catches slack but not nearly as much as Vanilla Ice will from now to kingdom come (albiet his rhyming skills are far below Eminems, but he still came out doing something few white guys would and made good bank for it).
The rap that is limited to bitches, money, and murder will be shortlived (is gangsta rap even around now?), but I think rap is so mainstream it's here to stay. Even gangsta rap will continue to have an audience long after it's heyday is over, it may even experience a resurgence from time to time. You still get guys playing the blues when there is hardly an audience to hear them.Comment
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i had this pignose for a while but i blew it like a moron.Originally posted by iwantchixx
fucking shit, don't get me started on guitar tonealities. I fucking spit on solid state amplification lemmings. Nothing sounds warmer, fatter, more glassy than Tube amplification. My fav's are Mesa/Boogie and Laney
my fender stage 112 has taken a fucking beating but it sounds lifeless.
id say the majority of people dont really have the ear to discern the difference, but any audiophile will burn and piss on solid state with no hesitance.Comment
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It goes much deeper than just 'hip hop culture'. For years urban culture has always been different than what most people live in the 'suburbs' or rural areas. It is rather the racism and food chains in the capitalist era that forces one particular people to live in second rate areas. I believe it was the same 'media' (cnn,usatoday,universal records,sonyetc.) who spread it to the suburbs which resulted in 'wiggers' of course maybe i'm being biased but I do believe this how it happened. Of course people don't really care to look at it as a culture as long you live in the 'suburbs' and not second rate. Basically, you cannot take away or discount from the culture yes it is that a 'culture.' Yes, many of you will make your excuses such as 'i lived in a city and i didn't try to act black'. But again this is more of an urban culture if anything. Go listen to GrandMaster Flash and discover for yourself what I am talking about. As for you 'iwantchixx' my intuition tells me your past experiences(perhaps one or two people) have just made you feel perhaps inferior in one way or the other, therefore, you just personalize and take into account your emotions when coming across 'hip hop' related topics.Originally posted by Bobo
I don't even know if there is such a thing as 'hip-hop culture' s it stands. It's something created by businessmen to sell records and it's been successful. Hip-hop is synonymous with MTV.
I could care less if the 'fad' lives or dies. Hair bands and 'glam culture?' died in the 80s and I still find myself listening to Motley Cru's song 'Dr Feelgood' and enjoying it *holds head down in shame*Comment
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i have a hard time seeing what the next wave is going to be anyway. i had a feeling that electronica would strictly take over music as we know it, but that probably won't happen until my kids are growing up.Originally posted by Bobo
The rap that is limited to bitches, money, and murder will be shortlived (is gangsta rap even around now?), but I think rap is so mainstream it's here to stay. Even gangsta rap will continue to have an audience long after it's heyday is over, it may even experience a resurgence from time to time. You still get guys playing the blues when there is hardly an audience to hear them.
fact of the matter is, the classics will always reign. i don't really know anyone that can't at least *tolerate* an oldies song.Comment
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