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12-31-2002, 05:05 PM

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If you think this is a new practice think again. Search engines are businesses and they need to make their bottom lines to please shareholders just like every other business. It's all about maintaining certain tolerances to keep shareholders and surfers happy. It happens in every business, search engines aren't the only ones who get kick backs. Hell, I've received kickbacks myself from certain adult companies that post here as well. It's all part of daily business in making shareholders happy.

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I never said it was a new practice.

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12-31-2002, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Mister X
The problem isn't too many tgps giving away too much free porn. It's too many fucking cash programs running too many shitty sites. Most of them can't come up with an original idea even if someone hands it to them. So they spend their time copying what the other guy has. So there are tons of sites that all look exactly the same. And most of them have the same old worn out content. They have a hard time selling that tired crap so they spend all their time whining about how everyone else is fucking up the industry. and trying to figure out how to fuck everyone they come into contact with. There's a reason that when a site like Bangbus comes along it makes money. And there's a reason that it peaks and starts sliding. All the other hacks out there start copying them and before you know it there are 20 clones competing for the same dollars. Wake up and smell the fucking coffee.

Im not sure what exactly or who exactly you are refering too, but my shit isnt like anyone elses...

show me one program that offers girlfucksguy.com in their affiliate program ..

hell, show me one site that any of my sites look like...
each one of my sites were made to look different, or have a certain twist to them..

picsnvids.com ... you see any paysites out there that look like mine?

stfu fag.

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#53

12-31-2002, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Mister X
The problem isn't too many tgps giving away too much free porn. It's too many fucking cash programs running too many shitty sites. Most of them can't come up with an original idea even if someone hands it to them. So they spend their time copying what the other guy has. So there are tons of sites that all look exactly the same. And most of them have the same old worn out content. They have a hard time selling that tired crap so they spend all their time whining about how everyone else is fucking up the industry. and trying to figure out how to fuck everyone they come into contact with. There's a reason that when a site like Bangbus comes along it makes money. And there's a reason that it peaks and starts sliding. All the other hacks out there start copying them and before you know it there are 20 clones competing for the same dollars. Wake up and smell the fucking coffee.

good point,just as many shitty paysites as there are hitbot thrived tgp's... "TGP's give away too much!" well compared to most of these plugin induced paysites,YES they do...

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12-31-2002, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by nocostporn

good point,just as many shitty paysites as there are hitbot thrived tgp's... "TGP's give away too much!" well compared to most of these plugin induced paysites,YES they do...

who gives a shit about plugins? God you little tgp puppies are funny.

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12-31-2002, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

who gives a shit about plugins? God you little tgp puppies are funny.

wow I defend a simple concept of TGP and now I run tgp's...Hmm must make Roger a spammer then huh? ...Nothing wrong with plugins but when you base your whole fuckin site on them, its shit... I don't think anything I've said has been directed at your sites but if it hits a nerve,take the hint

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12-31-2002, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

Im not sure what exactly or who exactly you are refering too, but my shit isnt like anyone elses...

show me one program that offers girlfucksguy.com in their affiliate program ..

hell, show me one site that any of my sites look like...
each one of my sites were made to look different, or have a certain twist to them..

picsnvids.com ... you see any paysites out there that look like mine?

stfu fag.

I wasn't talking about you in particular. So why don't YOU shut the fuck up?

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12-31-2002, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by nocostporn

you wont get an answer,thread is full of fruitloops on this one...You got a spammer saying what if they ban free porn and you got hypocritical program owners bashing a money source they take advantage of daily... No tgps? hm whos sending traffic to pornkings then? spammers?...With no tgp's that would place more emphasis on search engine traffic correct? well if I'm a search engine guru I'm just going to send my traffic to my own paysite,why deal with the middle man and his "affiliate program"... or something lol

kewl what are your sites?

Open your eyes we have been here for 7 years online, my Partner started Phone sex and we will still be here till it ends.
you think we don't understand how to run a business in adult
do your research.

Type in traffic is great also erotica,wetdreams,badboys just to name a few of ours
we have 1000's of webmasters sending us daily from all sources

the guys who I target are the ones who read the threads and don't post. the ones with the traffic.

I can't complain I made alot of great business relationships off this board and I will continue to.

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#58

12-31-2002, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by nocostporn

wow I defend a simple concept of TGP and now I run tgp's...Hmm must make Roger a spammer then huh? ...Nothing wrong with plugins but when you base your whole fuckin site on them, its shit... I don't think anything I've said has been directed at your sites but if it hits a nerve,take the hint

Yea I'm a spammer

Come on man you will have to see me in Vegas why trash me I don't even know who you are or what you do

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12-31-2002, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Pornkings

kewl what are your sites?

Open your eyes we have been here for 7 years online, my Partner started Phone sex and we will still be here till it ends.
you think we don't understand how to run a business in adult
do your research.

Type in traffic is great also erotica,wetdreams,badboys just to name a few of ours
we have 1000's of webmasters sending us daily from all sources

the guys who I target are the ones who read the threads and don't post. the ones with the traffic.

I can't complain I made alot of great business relationships off this board and I will continue to.

why do you always think somebody is telling you your business is collapsing?...So no tgp's,your answer to the guys question is that you will be getting your traffic from type ins?? ooook

Maybe we should clear the "sources" up for everybody,shall we? add to the list...

1)SE
2)tgp

continue....

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#60

12-31-2002, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Pornkings

Yea I'm a spammer

Come on man you will have to see me in Vegas why trash me I don't even know who you are or what you do

You missed the point, I'm defending the TGP concept and pimpdog assumed I'm running tgp's...Under that logic you're a spammer,since you defend spamming... come on GW,who is REALLY running things over there?

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12-31-2002, 05:42 PM

Wow please introduce us to your clandestine partner Roger, I'm sure we'd all love to meet the inventor of phone sex.

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12-31-2002, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by nocostporn

You missed the point, I'm defending the TGP concept and pimpdog assumed I'm running tgp's...Under that logic you're a spammer,since you defend spamming... come on GW,who is REALLY running things over there?

Who is GW?

And I'm out for the New year see you guys next year
and send me all your TGP traffic if you want to be a pimp

Peace out

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#63

12-31-2002, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by mpegposter
Wow please introduce us to your clandestine partner Roger, I'm sure we'd all love to meet the inventor of phone sex.

This is what I mean you have no clue.

And If you new the history about phonesex you would know.

I'll leave it at that

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12-31-2002, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Pornkings

This is what I mean you have no clue.

And If you new the history about phonesex you would know.

I'll leave it at that

Oh, but I doubt you will!

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#65

12-31-2002, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by Mister X
The problem isn't too many tgps giving away too much free porn. It's too many fucking cash programs running too many shitty sites. Most of them can't come up with an original idea even if someone hands it to them. So they spend their time copying what the other guy has. So there are tons of sites that all look exactly the same. And most of them have the same old worn out content. They have a hard time selling that tired crap so they spend all their time whining about how everyone else is fucking up the industry. and trying to figure out how to fuck everyone they come into contact with. There's a reason that when a site like Bangbus comes along it makes money. And there's a reason that it peaks and starts sliding. All the other hacks out there start copying them and before you know it there are 20 clones competing for the same dollars. Wake up and smell the fucking coffee.

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12-31-2002, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by mpegposter
Oh, but I doubt you will!

Roger's been in this business since I was in highshool. I have a feeling he knows the ropes of this business quite well.

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#67

12-31-2002, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

umm.. if i am not mistaken, there are like 10 tgp's that are even profitable to a point that they can live off the income..

there are hundreds and hundreds of tgp's out there.. 10 are dedicated to tgp and tgp only.... you show me one of the 10 tgp's that are not listed, that have enough money to start up a program, figure out how the game works, and make it successful.

im guessing
hun
sleazy
al4a
worldsex
call kelly
shemp
sublime
jjj
and a few others....

some of which i just mentioned might already have thier own programs that im not aware of.. so they need to be replaced with another successful tgp...

now that leaves you with 9990 more tgp's out there that dont make dick, but swap traffic.. look at pic hunter, that poor bastard makes 4 bucks a day now i think..

lol

That is just a small list of tgp's you know of because they use sextracker, so they can show off their feww hundred k of traffic. There are far more tgp's out there that have as much or more traffic that just dont use counters

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12-31-2002, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics

That is just a small list of tgp's you know of because they use sextracker, so they can show off their feww hundred k of traffic. There are far more tgp's out there that have as much or more traffic that just dont use counters

umm, ok.

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12-31-2002, 07:11 PM

Ok, i see this discussion is going around like aurora snow in gangbang 33..

ok.. fine, lets not be about the hatin of the tgp's. If you didnt have tgp's do you think that porn companies can make so much $$$?

As webmasters, we need other internet mediums to get our customers. If u are blessed by having a nice spot on a SE then great, u can buy me cognac. But hey, not everyone can get on that spot. So we look for other ways. other ways to gettin customers to fork over ther CC# online. TGP opened alot of doors for ppl.... somesay its like opening pandora's box. others say its opening a box of chocolate.. im losing my train of thought, its the cristal brut talking.. anyways, i can sum up this post with a line i got from temptation island:

"dont hate the playa, hate the game"

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12-31-2002, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by GirlsFreePics

That is just a small list of tgp's you know of because they use sextracker, so they can show off their feww hundred k of traffic. There are far more tgp's out there that have as much or more traffic that just dont use counters

Agreed.

On another note, there's so much TGP traffic out there, I would think that any affiliate program or a paysite owner would make a TGP just to study this traffic alone. It's would seem 'logical' to any business model to really learn converting TGP traffic.

Self sufficiency: There nothing better then being 100% self sufficient. Having your own traffic to push to your own paysites and do well at it. Sure, any paysite owner dreams of having 1000's of webmasters sending their paysites traffic, while others don't care and are making a fortune regardless. Most of these cases though, you don't really hear about...as most people are "Quiet" about it. ( pun intended )

The beauty in my opinion about TGP traffic is when you have it down and your own fomula in place, besides making money on your own paysites your making cash all the affiliates your promoting straight from a few high traffic TGP's.

Like SE traffic, AVS traffic, Exit traffic, 404 traffic, all type's of traffic needs to be studied and understood. It's not and never was the free porn that's killing this industry as most claim. It's the people who have no concept or prior experience in marketing that are giving away this content...as all they're doing is flooding the net with more free porn. The people who know how are making a nice fortune.

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12-31-2002, 07:15 PM

wobble wobble, and drop it like it's greasy

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12-31-2002, 07:20 PM

oh yeah and "to much free porn"
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12-31-2002, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by MikeEP
oh yeah and "to much free porn"

will it still be free when everyone has to pay to get listed?
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12-31-2002, 07:30 PM

i know what u mean by free porn, i am an advocate in getting porn for free.. lol, i go on such sites as hcmf.com to get my fixes on big-ass movies.. love that site man

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12-31-2002, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Wildcard
without TGPs adult biz would've been dead.

A late entry for the most misguided post of 2002? ;)

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12-31-2002, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by MikeEP

Agreed.

On another note, there's so much TGP traffic out there, I would think that any affiliate program or a paysite owner would make a TGP just to study this traffic alone. It's would seem 'logical' to any business model to really learn converting TGP traffic.

Self sufficiency: There nothing better then being 100% self sufficient. Having your own traffic to push to your own paysites and do well at it. Sure, any paysite owner dreams of having 1000's of webmasters sending their paysites traffic, while others don't care and are making a fortune regardless. Most of these cases though, you don't really hear about...as most people are "Quiet" about it. ( pun intended )

The beauty in my opinion about TGP traffic is when you have it down and your own fomula in place, besides making money on your own paysites your making cash all the affiliates your promoting straight from a few high traffic TGP's.

Like SE traffic, AVS traffic, Exit traffic, 404 traffic, all type's of traffic needs to be studied and understood. It's not and never was the free porn that's killing this industry as most claim. It's the people who have no concept or prior experience in marketing that are giving away this content...as all they're doing is flooding the net with more free porn. The people who know how are making a nice fortune.

anyway,

VERY well said...this was my point, I was just to lazy to elaborate as well as you did

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#77

12-31-2002, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
this has been said many many times, but you tgp guys refuse to listen..
wtf are you going todo if tgp's go away?
lets say they pass a law about no more free porn.. if you rely on tgp, you are fucked. bankrupt. broke. cya.

dont put all your eggs in one basket, or you are bound to fail.

that;s the same for anything though. look at the people who have just recently lost alot of money in the stock market because part of their benifits package from their jobs gave them stock for retirement benifits. or what about typewriter companies when computers came around? the essence of any good corporation if you will is to be able to change with the times and adapt their products and marketing to suit new audiences.

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
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12-31-2002, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by Wildcard
without TGPs adult biz would've been dead.

A late entry for the most misguided post of 2002? ;)

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12-31-2002, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Wildcard
p1mpdogg you are one big motherfucking piece of shit. without TGPs adult biz would've been dead.

ha-ha - now that is almost as funny as the suggestion that sponsors should ban TGP traffic
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01-01-2003, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Wildcard
p1mpdogg you are one big motherfucking piece of shit. without TGPs adult biz would've been dead.

you gotta be kidding me. do you think this business didn't make money before there were tgp's? there would be plenty of ways to generate traffic if tgp's weren't around.
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