Traffic won't convert? click here.

Really getting desperate, huh? Need a couple more newbies to shave? Which program are you trying to trick them into using today?

http://www.blindclicks.com/
http://www.rawlikesushi.com/
http://www.allclicks.com/
http://www.mojosearch.com/

None of them shave, and they all pay like clockwork, 12clicks swears his life on it.

12clicks must be in christmas spirit

i sell traffic on prepaid deals. send me money, i send you traffic.

Fuck it shave or not anything would be better then letting it go to waste. I never have done anything with 12clicks and he has allways been nice to me shrugs. I have about 80k in forien traffic that I can not converty wortha shit hit me up 12 i got to run to the store PEACE

you got mail

doesn't being an anon punk get boring afer awhile? I couldn't live the life of the spineless but appearantly, it suits you.

you don't even have the domain names right.

I'll contact everyone who's dropped me an Email in the morning.
Thanks.

... you traffic doesn´t convert ... I don´t think so ... try us !

Funkmaster


You own Bimbosinlimos.com?

That's your comeback? You just take another shot at me for not having what, a sig or a url in my profile? Or maybe because I don't need to shave affiliates to make money...? I guess that's what you consider anon, but spineless... well I guess the insults have to come out when you have no deffense for being a crook. And you can't edit my posts here to make you look better like you did on your gay board. Not a moderater, huh Ron? Now that deserves a

At least you don't try to deny all these programs ripped people off. Sorry for having a couple of the domains of your scams wrong.

Assclown, you're a thief who I slapped down from a long line of thieves that I've slapped down. You hide who you are and what you do because once we know who you are, we'll know which thief you are.
Anon, your able to fool the newbs into thinking you *might* not be a slapped down, nobody, thief with an ax to grind.

Ok, put up or shut up now tough guy. You know my name, you've posted it publicly before, it's Richard Helman. I've done business with a lot of people on this board before, and they know me well. There's nothing anon about me, no matter how many times you shout it out while you're crying like a school girl. If you're going to call me a cheater, at least explain yourself. I've never been anything but strait up with anyone, I've never been kicked from a program, I've never been shut down for anything, I've never done ANYTHING even remotely dishonest. Show everyone how I'm a "cheater" or a "thief", go ahead, I fucking dare you. I'd love to hear your explanation. Calling you a jackass doesn't make someone a scammer, no matter how much you wish it did. Now back up your idle words you fuck face, or shut the hell up. Your bullshit isn't going to fly this time, because I'm a totally honest guy who's sick of your bullshit, and you can't even lie about me being dishonest.

"Assclown, you're a thief who I slapped down from a long line of thieves that I've slapped down. You hide who you are and what you do because once we know who you are, we'll know which thief you are.
Anon, your able to fool the newbs into thinking you *might* not be a slapped down, nobody, thief with an ax to grind. "

What the fuck does that even mean? Slapped me down, WTF? You're talking out of your ass like a third grade bully, only you make less sense. THIEF? I know this is what you say to anyone who insults you, and it's fucking hilarious that anyone still buys your shit, but HOW THE FUCK AM I A THIEF? WHAT DID I EVER STEAL???? NOTHING MOTHER FUCKER, NOTHING. AND YOU KNOW IT. Post one honest word on this board about me and I'll give you $10,000.

Anyone who's thinking about sending their traffic to 12clicks... read his posts first. Does he defend himself regarding shaving and strait up ripping people off? Does he deny setting up a new front every 6 months to steal your traffic and not pay you? No, not for a second. He can't, it's right there in the open, he's a criminal who steals from people. What does he do? He calls me a thief, with no explanation why, and leaves it at that. Keep in mind I've never done business with this guy, and I've been lucky enough to not use any of his programs. If you're stupid enough to do business with this guy, don't fucking come here in 3 months crying about him ripping you off, you deserve it.

Seriously, your bullshit ends here. Don't come to this board looking for newbies to rip off anymore, it's over. I'll be here waiting to let every newbie know what a MOTHER FUCKING SCAM ARTIST YOU FUCKING ARE. If I hear about one more of your programs shutting down and not paying, someone will show up at your house and end all this bullshit. Yes that's a threat, call the police. You give everyone in this business a bad name, and that's about to change.

I'm sure you're not going to respond to this, you'll just hope it goes away and come back in 6 months with another scam. But I'll tell you right now, your days of ripping off all the stupid people in this business are very limited, I promise you.

"You own Bimbosinlimos.com?"

no, we don´t !!

A bit of a ramble for a liar and thief.

Please prove you're who you say you are and give me your username that you used in my programs.

oh, and as far as you lying about us shaving goes and my failure to respond, there's no need to respond. We don't shave, period. Just because some liar invents the name "leader" gets himself banned for lying here, creates another username [leader] and continues to lie about his betters doesn't mean he has any credibility.
Anyone old enough to remember rawlikesushi knows it was the best paying program in this business. It attracted every webmaster on the net (including cheaters) If you didn't like the way I handled you or your cheating friends when I caught you, too bad. punk.

LOL

If your traffic won't convert, click here:

12Clicks I'll email you

Anyone old enough to remember rawlikesushi knows it was the best paying program in this business.
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nope it wasn't...
SergesCash was...
;-))))

I've done business with Richard (theLeader) many times and he has always seemed professional and honest to me

Top Geezer

wasn't sergescash gone by then? ;-)

only per click programs i made decent money per impression from were top cash, amateur pages, intergal and dildo lesbians.

still made more on per sign up, so now i don't bother with click through programs at all

touche!
;-))))

we preceeded them as well
;-)))
most of them were not in business when we operated

i started in 98.

I finisged in 99
;-)))

Again 12clicks, finish this sentence for me:

"Richard is a liar and a thief because _______".


As I said several times I've been lucky enough not to have ever used one of your affiliate programs. I've never been accused of cheating or stealing by ANYONE but you, funny ain't it?

You've had a good scam going for a long time Ron, the best part is how whenever someone mentions one of your past scams you call THEM a liar and/or a thief. That's very smart and it's what has allowed you to stay in this game so long. Well that ends here, I'm not some Russian who can't defend himself against your false accusations. I can back up my words, can you?

When he can't back up what he says he just makes up shit.

yet you speak with such authority. you're a liar. you've got no proof accept your say so. the say so that got your first username on GFY banned.

Ask Lensman, Ram, or any other perclick guy and they'll tell you. I'm better at catching cheaters than everyone else. why would it be a surprise that you were slapped down back in the rawlike sushi days?
That's because the only people who have ever called my programs "scams" *are* liars and thieves as I've proven adnauseam.

Is that what goes on in the head of a liar and thief?
The reason I'm in the game longer than everyone else is the fact that I pay every honest webmaster and fuck every dishonest one. riiiiiight. some fucking clown who was banned from GFY once for his bullshit comes back with more shit to sell. the only thing that will end here is my interest in you.


really? then back it up assclown.

The Leaded , I have done business with Ron for years now, from waaaaayyyyy back and I've never known Ron to cheat or be wrong about guys who cheat. The click business is wide open tons of cheating, and Ron is 1 of the best at finding these cheating scum. Sure some of the programs he's ran have closed, (thank the cheaters for this), but every cent that was owed to all honest webmasters was always paid in full. I'm not sure what your problem with him is, but let it rest man, and move on.

One of my first checks in this business (and my first sizeable check) was from Ron, he's a straight foward honest guy & i've got nothing but good things to say about him.

And coming from me, that says alot...cuz i can usually find flaws in just about anyone

Thumbs up for 12clicks

12clicks is gay,

but he's never shaved my clicks and always paid me.

And I sent him the shittest shit I could dig up, my count was always right on his stats.

In fact I think im still sending him traffic from some 3 year old links somewhere godamn im lazy

Good grief........ I have known 12clicks for 3+ years now and used his programs...... ALL of them, never ONCE has he even considered cheating me or anyone else I know. He DOES drive a cheater like a fine car, which he has the right to do, they are cheating and deserve anything and everything they get from him or any sponsor. But as long as you follow the rules, I have NEVER known him to be a dick with anyone about that.

In fact, I was having hell way back when and the guy sat with me for hours trying to help me make what I was doing work....... THIS does NOT spell a scammer to me.... not many would have helped me the way he has. So 12clicks a cheater and scammer? No fucking way!!! Be straight with him and he'll be straight with you, it's just that simple!!

Ive been doing business with 12clicks for years. I think since 99. Not only have i always gotten every penny owed, but even when i was sendiing him 2 hits a day he would go out of his way to help me out. There are very few people i trust as much as i do him.

He has zero tolerance for people trying to fuck him, dont mistake that for him not being a good guy, he's just tough on cheaters.

I trust him with my traffic and my wife. (but he's a pretty ugly fella so thats no big deal)

I've know 12clicks for almost 5 yrs and know his programs very well. And I must say that even though he might act like an ass on the boards sometimes there is no doubt that his programs have always been cutting edge and he's always paid HONEST people in full.

*** 12clicks ***

I just email you hope to hear from you

Louie

There was a time when I was cashing 3 SIC checks per payday. They were nice days too.

12Clicks, is this the tunder program you are referring to, or do you have another new one?

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I know some people like to slam me for actually liking 12Clicks, but to be honest he's been nothing but good to me and I enjoy reading his threads.

Why would I have anything bad to say about a company who has paid me thousands and thousands of dollars ontime evertime I used them?

I have also done business with 12clicks and have never had any problem. Quite the contrary. I look forward to doing more business with him in the future. I have complete confidence in him.

its something different.
I'm looking for really shitty traffic that you will sell me for cheap.

i'm curious, are there anymore blind click programs out there that are any good? or did the cheaters kill them all?

3-4 years ago there seemed to be tons of them floating around

I have done a large amount of business with Ron and Mojo (SIC) over the years. We have done handshake deals for 6 figures, no bs. Never had any problems. I would put them up at the top of most reputable companies around.

Ive known Ron since 89 and he's never cheated me out of a dime though he has helped me bust a few in the past that were cheating me. I don't know detail 1 of this situation but about 99.9% of these threads when they pop up 12 clicks either
Proves them as a cheat or scammer or the other .01% rectifies any missunderstanding and then admits to it.

I've been with 12clicks for quite a while now and he is one of the most honest webmasters I know....
And he has a big johnson too!!! Thats another plus for him!!

Good job Ron, ask all you buddies to come post in your deffense. We're all really impressed that you've paid a dozen people over the past 7 years. Most of them are probably too stupid to realize what percentage of their clicks you're counting. Any of you try to use a third party click counter before sending to one of Ron's programs?

"why would it be a surprise that you were slapped down back in the rawlike sushi days? "

Again, huh? What does that mean? I've never used any of your programs, I just know what a jackass you are. Tell me once and for all how I was slapped down.

i think i tried raw like sushi for a week and found the click counts lows. i assumed they were counting 2nd page.

12clicks might seem sorta gay and all from the pics ive seen . But he has always been straight up when ive dealt with him.
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