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ARS is KILLING me!!!!

12-27-2002, 03:21 AM

Ok i have been actively promoting them for maybe 4 months, sent a tota of maybe 200k niche clicked traffic to them, and got 1 signup!

wtf! I can almost put money on it if that traffic was sent to ND id make some cash .... but with ARS i get 1 signup??

so the gallery ratio is 1:200k

but its niche tgp traffic, i know tgp traffic sucks but its converting for me everywhere else, lol

what that deeeeeeeelio???

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12-27-2002, 03:27 AM

Well you are promoting SEXY BLONDES with a BRUNETTE model may be one problem. Your content needs to match your sponsor and i thought you said it was NICHE traffic i never considered blondes a niche really but if it is a brunette model is not the way to go

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12-27-2002, 03:29 AM

I like 'm, I got a xmas card from them while I haven't promoted them since a year or something

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12-27-2002, 03:31 AM

damn
you wanna tell me that 200000 people clicked on your link on THAt FUCKED UP GALLERY???
are you fucking insane?? get a good doctor or show some screenshots
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12-27-2002, 03:32 AM

Rockstar,

good point bad example from me ... i have used a total of maybe 14 galleries for them this month, each getting 200+ on average so far.

i cant understand it, maybe i just suck? lol (prolly)

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12-27-2002, 03:32 AM

> so the gallery ratio is 1:200k

Listen up boyo..... the deeeeeelio is this.

If you got 200,000 clicks on your sponsor and you couldnt convert a single sale you got a major issue and i'll recommend psychiatric help because no-one can be that incompetent.

Even if you were using a "shaving" sponsor theyd give you the odd few sales for that many clicks, just to keep you happy.

Now I do pretty well with ARS and so do a shit load of other people so im wondering youre counting those 200k as page impressions. That means shit - you could have the marketing skills of a demented ant and get 1 click out of all that.

What matters is how many clicks you got on your sponsor and thats how you determine the ratio. Thats the deeeelio.

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12-27-2002, 03:32 AM

There is something wrong in the equation here. If you are sending even the worst traffic in the world, to get 1 transaction from 200,000 people means something is screwed up somewhere.

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12-27-2002, 03:38 AM

"im wondering youre counting those 200k as page impressions."

yes i am, lol .... thats why i said gallery ratio.

but you see, i count it like that because i think ARS has a weird way of counting hits. Not that they shave just saying their numbers are never realistic to me.

like ill have 200k hits on my gallery, and ARS will show like 57 clicks, LOL!!!

i do well with other sponsors, just this one i cant get to work.

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12-27-2002, 03:39 AM

vendot

i must agree with you that 200k must be the traffic to the GALLERY not to the sponsor

lil2rich4u2

don't take this the wrong way but there is more too TGPING than just slaping pictures on a page and letting it go
A tgp gallery is nothing more that a FULL PAGE AD promoting your sponsor
Let me ask you this.............HONESTLY have you ever even taken the tour for Sexy Blondes? I mean reading what they offer and then CREATING a gallery that FITS the tour??

If you you or ANYONE is building and submitting galleries for sponsors and you don't even take the time to take the tour and find out WHAT you are selling then you will continue to have POOR conversions

Just my opinion on this

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12-27-2002, 03:41 AM

you cant get it to work because you're promoting a blondes site.

Sorry, but unless you're running a tgp based on that niche, or Se traffic, dont bother with it, general tgp traffic wont convert it for shit...

Who the FUCK wants to go to a softcore tour blondes site? I know I wouldnt.

Promote teen, hardcore, movies, tranny, piss, or the other large niches, and try to keep away from "blondes, brunettes, fat girls with large penis's that like chubby men who dont shower enough

Atleast off non-niche tgps. =)
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12-27-2002, 03:43 AM

So how many people clicked through to the tour?
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12-27-2002, 03:50 AM

so boy, u r telling us that ur crappy gallery received 200k pageviews and ARS has converted these 57 hits ur sent to them into a sale and u going to tell that the problem is with ARS???

WTF???

p.s. this world is getting insane.........

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12-27-2002, 03:58 AM

well then,

judging by the outside opinions here i guess the problem IS with me, thats cool ... thats why i posted here.

Its just i have been promoting other sponsors for same length of time and got better results .... even similar galery pages.

Well thanks alot guys, feedbck appreciated as usual.

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12-27-2002, 04:05 AM

yep, the prob is with ur gallery.
from 200k pageviews (about 170k uniques usually) u should sent about 2-5k hits to ur sponsor and it (properly chosen niche site) would bring u about 2-10 sales. in average.
try major tgps and check top (paid) spots - that way these guys r sending lots of hits to sponsor's tours.

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12-27-2002, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by Rockstar
vendot

i must agree with you that 200k must be the traffic to the GALLERY not to the sponsor

lil2rich4u2

don't take this the wrong way but there is more too TGPING than just slaping pictures on a page and letting it go
A tgp gallery is nothing more that a FULL PAGE AD promoting your sponsor
Let me ask you this.............HONESTLY have you ever even taken the tour for Sexy Blondes? I mean reading what they offer and then CREATING a gallery that FITS the tour??

If you you or ANYONE is building and submitting galleries for sponsors and you don't even take the time to take the tour and find out WHAT you are selling then you will continue to have POOR conversions

Just my opinion on this

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12-27-2002, 04:14 AM

That gallery really sucks I gotta say.
Content doesn't match the site you want to sell.
Crack addict cheerleaders might be a better site for that content
Say you got 150K uniques.
I bet that gallery didn't do better then 0.5% ctr but lets say it does 1%.
So that's 1500 clicks.
1:1500 isn't good but i've seen worse.
Try a new gallery layout and make sure your content matches the site that you want to sell.
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12-27-2002, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by aleck
so boy, u r telling us that ur crappy gallery received 200k pageviews and ARS has converted these 57 hits ur sent to them into a sale and u going to tell that the problem is with ARS???

WTF???

p.s. this world is getting insane.........

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12-27-2002, 05:05 AM

Why send so much without signups?

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12-27-2002, 05:57 AM

For me ... and I know what the fuck I am doing btw ...

This weeks :

ARS : 0:5600

MC : 1:400
CFF : 1:445
AP : 1:625
ND : 1:430
LS : 1:220

These are the only 6 I promote. You do the math. I got 1:400 with ARS several months ago, and now ... bam ... nothing. Even used their latest tours and even tried BYOT. Mixture of TGP and SE and LL traffic.

You do the math.

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12-27-2002, 06:09 AM

LOL,, i never knew anyone to blame a sponsor because of lower Click thrus to sponsors

200k hits to galleries and only 57 clicks to sponsor and your blaming ARS because of the shitty gallery layout

this month i am doing pretty average 1 out of 800
which is pretty good for shitty traffic
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12-27-2002, 06:12 AM

Keep trying or try something new.
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12-27-2002, 06:13 AM

Just curious, but did thumbzilla and al4a list that gallery?
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12-27-2002, 07:09 AM

Why keep promoting a site when the sign up ratio sucks beyond believe?
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12-27-2002, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Ok i have been actively promoting them for maybe 4 months, sent a tota of maybe 200k niche clicked traffic to them, and got 1 signup!

wtf! I can almost put money on it if that traffic was sent to ND id make some cash .... but with ARS i get 1 signup??

so the gallery ratio is 1:200k

but its niche tgp traffic, i know tgp traffic sucks but its converting for me everywhere else, lol

what that deeeeeeeelio???

hmm, sample page? http://www.pornhelper.com/gal/jessica/index.html

you little dump fuck, your gally looks so fucking awful. u were lucky enuf to have 1 sign up with that gally. i expect non. so fuck off and learn how to creat a decent gally ok?
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12-27-2002, 07:14 AM

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12-27-2002, 07:29 AM

Sausage,
Could you tell me what the initials of those sponsors stand for? Thank you in advance.

"For me ... and I know what the fuck I am doing btw ...

This weeks :

ARS : 0:5600

MC : 1:400
CFF : 1:445
AP : 1:625
ND : 1:430
LS : 1:220

These are the only 6 I promote. You do the math. I got 1:400 with ARS several months ago, and now ... bam ... nothing. Even used their latest tours and even tried BYOT. Mixture of TGP and SE and LL traffic.

You do the math.

S."
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12-27-2002, 07:36 AM

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12-27-2002, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by mistressofnite
Sausage,
Could you tell me what the initials of those sponsors stand for? Thank you in advance.

"For me ... and I know what the fuck I am doing btw ...

This weeks :

ARS : 0:5600

MC : 1:400
CFF : 1:445
AP : 1:625
ND : 1:430
LS : 1:220

These are the only 6 I promote. You do the math. I got 1:400 with ARS several months ago, and now ... bam ... nothing. Even used their latest tours and even tried BYOT. Mixture of TGP and SE and LL traffic.

You do the math.

S."

for per sign up programs that i sent over 1000 hits, here's my ratio's for december. i adjusted them so they're somewhat more accurate. a lot count 2nd page only.

sic cash 1:628
fat pockets 1:631
top bucks 1:686
ARS 1:1721
giga cash 0:1410
nasty dollars 0:3002
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12-27-2002, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
"but you see, i count it like that because i think ARS has a weird way of counting hits. Not that they shave just saying their numbers are never realistic to me."

If there is another "big" sponsor that counts better than ARS, I've never seen them. Gamma is pretty close, too.

Using a sponsor count to determine sales ratios is retarded anyway....
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12-27-2002, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by LUCL0NELY

you little dump fuck, your gally looks so fucking awful. u were lucky enuf to have 1 sign up with that gally. i expect non. so fuck off and learn how to creat a decent gally ok?

You're no Einstein yourself looking at your spelling.

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12-27-2002, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Dveron

Your no Einstein yourself looking at your spelling.

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12-27-2002, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
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12-27-2002, 08:31 AM

Well at least you were open minded enough to realize the problem was yours....

Keep trying - you'll get some eventually. It took me like three weeks to get my first sale.

I'd try promoting their milf site if I were you. make sure you put a milf on it.....

Good luck.

ARS is an honest program.
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12-27-2002, 10:37 AM

"Well at least you were open minded enough to realize the problem was yours....

Keep trying - you'll get some eventually. It took me like three weeks to get my first sale."

WOW!!!

A related post that doesnt flame me! un FUCKING beleivable!!!

Well the whole reason i asked this question, i have no problem getting signups on my other sponsors, except one that i just recently started and didnt give it enough time yet ....

ND is my best overall with a ratio of 1:1100 (using their stats).

Well thanks everyone, i see alot of people commented on the gallery ... i admit it sucks but as i said it was just an example ... and i didnt want feedback on the gallery, i SHOULD have just said ... "has anyone had problems getting ARS to convert" and left it at that, lol.

Thanks so much to all who replied .... im off to bed.

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12-27-2002, 10:43 AM

LOL, 1:200k is really hurting, DAMN

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12-27-2002, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
"Well at least you were open minded enough to realize the problem was yours....

Keep trying - you'll get some eventually. It took me like three weeks to get my first sale."

WOW!!!

A related post that doesnt flame me! un FUCKING beleivable!!!

Well the whole reason i asked this question, i have no problem getting signups on my other sponsors, except one that i just recently started and didnt give it enough time yet ....

ND is my best overall with a ratio of 1:1100 (using their stats).

Well thanks everyone, i see alot of people commented on the gallery ... i admit it sucks but as i said it was just an example ... and i didnt want feedback on the gallery, i SHOULD have just said ... "has anyone had problems getting ARS to convert" and left it at that, lol.

Thanks so much to all who replied .... im off to bed.

Ok - well just to let you know - I do about as well with ARS as I do with topbucks, silvercash, and cemags. I'd consider all of them top notch sponsors. I don't think the problem is with ars - or more accurately - I don't think just using a different sponsor would change things. Using a different niche, or more targeted niche probably would.

I don't do much with tgp, so i am no expert, but I have had thousands of sales with the above sponsors - and think they all are among the best.

In case you haven't noticed - threads like these are composed of people claiming xyz shaves - and people promoting ghi.
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12-27-2002, 11:35 AM

....... but seriously, an advertisement for a BLONDE site on a gallery featuring a BRUNETTE girl?

you can't expect more than 5% serious replies on gfy. especially when you're using such great advertising techniques.

holy shit.

did someone put plutonium in your crack pipe?

you're funny.

i see spacedog potential.

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12-27-2002, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by mistressofnite
Sausage,
Could you tell me what the initials of those sponsors stand for? Thank you in advance.

"For me ... and I know what the fuck I am doing btw ...

This weeks :

ARS : 0:5600

MC : 1:400
CFF : 1:445
AP : 1:625
ND : 1:430
LS : 1:220

S."

I'm not Sausage, but I'm guessing
MC=Maxcash
CFF= Collegefuckfest
AP= Amateur Pages
ND=Nasty Dollars
LS= Lightspeed
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12-27-2002, 12:53 PM

lil2rich4u2 and any ARS webmaster,

We here at ARS support would be more than happy to help you with getting the most out of your traffic. We can critique your galleries and give you pointers or suggestions on getting better conversions. Please email me your account number and I can tell you who your personal account rep is and they will be able to help you with your account.

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12-27-2002, 12:56 PM

If ARS really wanted to kill you, they'd hire me to do it. Only $50k
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12-27-2002, 12:59 PM

I'd rather like to know how you're getting 200k visitors to 1 gallery, using as content for your galleries only the free Revshare Hosting content...

I don't use ICQ anymore.
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12-27-2002, 01:21 PM

Rich,

If you can constantly get high volume traffic to your galleries, another option is to pay one of the gallery builders around here to build for you....

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