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  • bhutocracy
    Not making A Comeback
    • Dec 2001
    • 10218

    #101
    Originally posted by Kiko_Wu


    You did insult me hun, you made racist statements about Asian women. It's a little late to cry foul just because you can't defend those statements now isn't it? If you can't even formulate an intelligent argument you're not much of a bridge. If you make a habit of letting your own mistakes stand in the way of business than that's yet another obstacle that will stand in the path of your success.
    damn...

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    • mrthumbs
      salad tossing sig guy
      • Apr 2002
      • 11702

      #102
      gotta love gfy

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      • sherbert
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2002
        • 470

        #103
        Hahaha!

        That is funny.
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        • Kiko_Wu
          Confirmed User
          • May 2002
          • 182

          #104
          Politely pump her in the ass?

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          • Pornwolf
            Drunk and Unruly
            • Jan 2002
            • 22712

            #105
            Originally posted by Kiko_Wu

            No, Chinese people would be more likely to understand Chinatown. A Korean or Japanese person would be just as lost as the Dominican person. There are cultural traits- but that it different from racial traits.
            Kiko, you are arguing just to be contradictory now. You know as well as I do there are tons of Japanese, Korean and other 'Asians' that navigate Chinatown like pros. Tons. I don't see and have never known many non asian races to do so. The only ones that came close were Italians and the old line Chinatown gangsters stopped that.

            I speak from experience. I lived on Canal for quite a while.
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            • irisPornKings
              I have traffic for sale!
              • Oct 2002
              • 167

              #106
              asian people are all the same! i hate going to those freaky international districts because i can't even find myself there, i get confused and scared and feel like i'm in a house of mirrors, except i'm outside, and i have to breath slowly and tell myself it's ok, it's ok, i'm the only one that's really me, and just because everyone else looks like me doesn't mean i am not still right here.

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              • mrthumbs
                salad tossing sig guy
                • Apr 2002
                • 11702

                #107
                Originally posted by irisPornKings
                asian people are all the same! i hate going to those freaky international districts because i can't even find myself there, i get confused and scared and feel like i'm in a house of mirrors, except i'm outside, and i have to breath slowly and tell myself it's ok, it's ok, i'm the only one that's really me, and just because everyone else looks like me doesn't mean i am not still right here.


                Is roger pushing dope again??

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                • Kiko_Wu
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2002
                  • 182

                  #108
                  Kiko, you are arguing just to be contradictory now.
                  Not at all, I succinctly proved my point and showed your comparison to be invalid. Despite being clearly outgunned your have a thing between your legs that unfortunately makes you unable to back down.

                  You know as well as I do there are tons of Japanese, Korean and other 'Asians' that navigate Chinatown like pros.
                  Sure, and tons of people of all races. A Korean can no more read Chinese then a Dominican, on top of that most of the signage is in English anyway. How does having yellow skin make you more able to find your way around Chinatown?

                  Tons. I don't see and have never known many non asian races to do so. The only ones that came close were Italians and the old line Chinatown gangsters stopped that.
                  Have you ever even been to Chinatown? Hun, I grew up with two brother in the Ghost Shadows- NO one messed with the Qhy Lo, no surer way to bring the cops down on you and if the Qhy Lo don't go to the businesses the business don't pay their protection. But that was a LONG time ago, the gangsters are all doctors and lawers- bullet scars and all, Chinatown isn't even really Chinatown anymore and the tourists are wall to wall.

                  I speak from experience. I lived on Canal for quite a while.
                  And by your own logic would know less about Chinatown then I because I am Asian and you are not. An interesting premise, not one I would create but I'm not too proud to apply it to the person who thoughtlessly blurted it out:-)
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                  • Gutterboy
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 4751

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Kiko_Wu

                    Okay, if you had finished 6th grade you would have learned that attributing specific acquired physical skills to a race is the definition of a racist statement.
                    Maybe if you'd taken college level biology you'd know that there are genetic reasons for African dominance of certain sports. Whine about it being racist if you'd like, but the research on the subject is quite solid.

                    Why do you think north and east africans dominate middle and long distance running events? Its not because they train any harder than western distance runners, and they certainly haven't been at the sport any longer. Its because East Africans are born with.. on average.. leaner physiques, larger VO2 maxes (lung capacity) and an extremely high proportion of slow twitch muscle fibers. The perfect biomechanical package for distance running.

                    West African's on the other hand tend to have a genetic makeup which produces a much smaller average lung capacity, but an exceedingly large proportion of the musculature is made up of fast twitch fibers.. an ideal package for sprinting and sports which require short bursts of intense exertion.. like basketball and boxing.

                    Pointing out these things, while it might tweak the sensitivities of the PC crowd, is no more racist than the statement "pygmies are short"

                    "Africans are naturally, genetically, more likely to have less body fat, which is a critical edge in elite running," notes Joseph Graves, Jr., an African American evolutionary biologist at Arizona State University. "Evolution has shaped body types and in part athletic possibilities. Don't expect an Eskimo to show up on an NBA court or a Watusi to win the world weightlifting championship. Differences don't necessarily correlate with skin colour, but rather with geography and climate. Genes play a major role in this."
                    Last edited by Gutterboy; 12-18-2002, 05:18 PM.

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                    • p1mpdogg
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 16714

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Gutterboy


                      Maybe if you'd taken college level biology you'd know that there are genetic reasons for African dominance of certain sports. Whine about it being racist if you'd like, but the research on the subject is quite solid.

                      Why do you think north and east africans dominate middle and long distance running events? Its not because they train any harder than western distance runners, and they certainly haven't been at the sport any longer. Its because East Africans are born with.. on average.. leaner physiques, larger VO2 maxes (lung capacity) and an extremely high proportion of slow twitch muscle fibers. The perfect biomechanical package for distance running.

                      West African's on the other hand tend to have a genetic makeup which produces a much smaller average lung capacity, but an exceedingly large proportion of the musculature is made up of fast twitch fibers.. an ideal package for sprinting and sports which require short bursts of intense exertion.. like basketball and boxing.

                      Pointing out these things, while it might tweak the sensitivities of the PC crowd, is no more racist than the statement "pygmies are short"

                      "Africans are naturally, genetically, more likely to have less body fat, which is a critical edge in elite running," notes Joseph Graves, Jr., an African American evolutionary biologist at Arizona State University. "Evolution has shaped body types and in part athletic possibilities. Don't expect an Eskimo to show up on an NBA court or a Watusi to win the world weightlifting championship. Differences don't necessarily correlate with skin colour, but rather with geography and climate. Genes play a major role in this."
                      wow

                      right fucking on!

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                      • Fletch XXX
                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 60840

                        #111
                        Originally posted by Kiko_Wu

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                        • Pornwolf
                          Drunk and Unruly
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 22712

                          #112
                          Sure, and tons of people of all races. A Korean can no more read Chinese then a Dominican, on top of that most of the signage is in English anyway. How does having yellow skin make you more able to find your way around Chinatown?
                          Hey, that's something for you to discuss with the other yellow skinned non Chinese people! I have no idea why the many that swim in those waters do so especially considering there's so many other wonderful places in Ny to enjoy but the fact remains they do. In droves. More-so than non 'yellow skinned' races.

                          And by your own logic would know less about Chinatown then I because I am Asian and you are not. An interesting premise, not one I would create but I'm not too proud to apply it to the person who thoughtlessly blurted it out
                          That is what I'm saying. You do and you should. Me living there is akin to having a consultant from Deloitte & Touche come to your company and telling you info. A consultant won't know little stuff like why Harry in accounting has a grudge with Tina the CFO that goes back to the 1996 Christmas Party but he will see that that a rift between Tina and Harry is messing up the big picture $$$.

                          I don't know your family, I don't know everybody down there but I do see the big picture from a fresh perspective. I know the general history and know the people to a higher degree than an average non Chinese speaking person would. Why are you trying to argue that there are no overall differences between races that can be spotted and discussed? That's a foolish argument. I think you like argung though.
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                          • Kiko_Wu
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 182

                            #113
                            Ohhh ho ho, another dim bulb think he can take Kiko on? Let me tell you something, five years of stripping pays for a damn good education and writing theses papers for lazy shits pays good money. One of my best was on evolutionary anthropology.

                            Maybe if you'd taken college level biology, you'd know that there are genetic reasons for African dominance of certain sports. Call it racist if you'd like, but the research on the subject is quite solid.
                            No, there are genetic *factors* behind the dominance of Africans in certain sports but you also have to include environmental and training factors. Genetics is not the "reason" it is a factor and it is far from well documented specifically because the very nature of the research goes against certain social agendas. There has unfortunately been no conclusive links between race and performance simply due to lack of data, they have shown that some African athletes have different physical makeup then their Western counter parts- but there have been no studies on general population.

                            The only close to solid evidence of differing physical makeup playing a role in European/African athletic comparisons is when you look at the insertion point of large muscle groups. Our limbs are basically levers, like any lever depending on how far you move the fulcrum from the point at which force is being applied your mechanical advantage changes. When looking at large population samples there is a correlation between race and performance in certain athletic disciplines. At the extreme end are the Chinese specifically the women. We hold the record for almost every lift, in almost every event of Olympic lifting- but very few (if any) long distance running records. On the other end Africans and people of African decent dominate endurance oriented sports but rarely appear in the rankings of speed strength disciplines like shot putt or Olympic lifting. There is evidence that this is partially due to the insertion point of the muscles responsible for most gross motor movement.

                            The theory goes that Asians have a low insertion point- leading to greater mechanical advantage, and that Africans have the insertion point higher giving them an edge in endurance sports. To bring this full circle into the realm of porn if you look at the butts of Asian and African women there is clearly a difference in underlying musculature. Asians tend to have a low, teardrop shaped glutes and women of African decent have a higher, rounder shape. This shape stays the same even when dropping to very low levels of body fat so seems to clearly represent a different muscle orientation rather then fat distribution. But again, this like all areas of physiology and sport science that deal with racial characteristics has limited documentation and is very much taboo in the mainstream science community. There is no firm data, certainly nothing that would be addressed in "college level biology".

                            I would suggest in the future, before you open your mouth and spout largely anecdotal information that you consider the person you are talking to may have an educational background in the subject and be able to call you on it.

                            Have a nice day:-)
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                            • Kiko_Wu
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2002
                              • 182

                              #114
                              Why are you trying to argue that there are no overall differences between races that can be spotted and discussed?
                              When did I say anything of the kind? Of course there are overall physical differences. I simply stated that their are no racial personality traits. It's starting to look like since you can't refute the statements I DO make you are making up statements for me so you can dispute those?
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                              • Brown Bear
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                                • May 2002
                                • 4982

                                #115
                                Instead of being an appreciation for Asian women, this thread turned into yet another bickering match over racism. Sad.
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                                • Kiko_Wu
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 182

                                  #116
                                  Okay, okay, this is getting a little too time consuming, it's like being the Big Boss in a kung fu movie- everyone wants to have a go. Seriously, it's been fun playing with you boys but I have a business to run and really have to get back to work. Any late comers can feel welcome to have the last word and fantasize that they "shut me up" See you later boys...
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                                  • Sly_RJ
                                    Live Hard - Die Hard
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 17042

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Kiko_Wu
                                    No, there are genetic *factors* behind the dominance of Africans in certain sports but you also have to include environmental and training factors. Genetics is not the "reason" it is a factor and it is far from well documented specifically because the very nature of the research goes against certain social agendas. There has unfortunately been no conclusive links between race and performance simply due to lack of data, they have shown that some African athletes have different physical makeup then their Western counter parts- but there have been no studies on general population.
                                    Hehe...

                                    She's actually right on this one guys.

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                                    • Pornwolf
                                      Drunk and Unruly
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 22712

                                      #118
                                      Dude, Kiko just restated what he said, a little more in depth I must say but she is basically just restating the facts that are already agreed on.

                                      There are NO racial personality traits.
                                      Are you kidding?!?

                                      Crack lives! At least in Kiko's house.

                                      I gotta say that she is a fireball. Sounds like a lot of fun
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                                      • phogirl69
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 3330

                                        #119
                                        Most asian stereotypes aren't true.

                                        I'm asian and I don't do cooking AT ALL. Neither would I ever
                                        "pamper" a man or wait on him hand and foot. Fuck that shit, actually all the guys I have been have always cooked for ME , I'm not saying it HAS to be that way, but that's the way I prefer it.
                                        If the guy doesn't mind , then it's all good right?
                                        I would not be the type to wait on a man at ALL tho... LOL


                                        As for asians being close to family and all of that, I moved right out when I was 19, and I barely speak to my family. I am not close to my family at all . I cannot imaging still living living with my mom or my family....sounds like a nightmare...
                                        Last edited by phogirl69; 12-18-2002, 06:16 PM.

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                                        • Sly_RJ
                                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 17042

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                          Dude, Kiko just restated what he said, a little more in depth I must say but she is basically just restating the facts that are already agreed on.



                                          Are you kidding?!?

                                          Crack lives! At least in Kiko's house.

                                          I gotta say that she is a fireball. Sounds like a lot of fun
                                          Not really.

                                          Gutterboy was attributing the geographical traits to race.

                                          While Kiko realized that the traits were geographical.
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                                          • Gutterboy
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 4751

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by Kiko_Wu
                                            Ohhh ho ho, another dim bulb think he can take Kiko on? Let me tell you something, five years of stripping pays for a damn good education and writing theses papers for lazy shits pays good money. One of my best was on evolutionary anthropology.
                                            I'm afraid you've let on that you don't know what you're talking about right from the beginning. Evolutionary anthropology has very little to do with this subject.

                                            Genetics is not the "reason" it is a factor and it is far from well documented specifically because the very nature of the research goes against certain social agendas.
                                            You just lost all your credibility. It's a VERY well documented fact that VO2 max, the maximal rate at which one can uptake oxygen and get it to the muscles is 60-80% genetically determined in trained endurace atheletes. Lie about it here all you'd like, consult an exercise physiologist who works with endurance atheletes and that is what he or she will tell you.

                                            There has unfortunately been no conclusive links between race and performance simply due to lack of data, they have shown that some African athletes have different physical makeup then their Western counter parts- but there have been no studies on general population.
                                            Hmm.. you've chosen to just tell bold, sweeping lies about the subject rather than debate the data? Uh, ok. The truth is, however much you want to deny it, that North and East Africans have higher VO2 max's, lower bodyfat percetages and much greater proportions of slow to fast twitch muscles than any other race on the planet.

                                            There doesn't need to be any studies in the general population because we know already that VO2 max and proportion of fast to slow twitch fibers are largely determined by genetics from studies of caucasian twins. If you find a group of people with those attributes in greater proportion to other races it has to be genetics because there is no other way to alter VO2 max and muscle fiber physiology to such a large degree.

                                            The only close to solid evidence of differing physical makeup playing a role in European/African athletic comparisons is when you look at the insertion point of large muscle groups.
                                            Ooook, now I'm convinced you're just making this shit up out of thin air. Muslce insertion points have nothing to do with it. As I said before, the factors which control how well you will perform in aerobic endurance sports are VO2 max, proportion of fast vs. slow twitch muscles, body fat percentage, and lactate threshold. The first two are.. for the purposes of elite level endurance sports anyway.. almost totally determined by genetics. The last two can be trained more than the first two, esp. lactate threshold, but at the national and world class level, genetics plays a determining factor in the whole package.

                                            We hold the record for almost every lift, in almost every event of Olympic lifting- but very few (if any) long distance running records. On the other end Africans and people of African decent dominate endurance oriented sports but rarely appear in the rankings of speed strength disciplines like shot putt or Olympic lifting. There is evidence that this is partially due to the insertion point of the muscles responsible for most gross motor movement.
                                            Sorry, but again, the differences in endurance atheletics has to do with VO2 max, body fat, and proportion of fast to slow twitch muscles. Nothing to do with muscle insertion points.

                                            But again, this like all areas of physiology and sport science that deal with racial characteristics has limited documentation and is very much taboo in the mainstream science community. There is no firm data, certainly nothing that would be addressed in "college level biology".
                                            Nonsense. Its not in the least bit taboo and is dealt with in biology and sports physiology classes all the time. We talked about it in High School biology.

                                            I would suggest in the future, before you open your mouth and spout largely anecdotal information that you consider the person you are talking to may have an educational background in the subject and be able to call you on it.


                                            As they say, if you can't dazzle them will brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

                                            All you've managed to do is blurt out reams of utterly irrelevant factoids in a vain attempt to sound like you have the slightest idea what you are talking about.

                                            Education my ass. Go get your money back

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                                            • Gutterboy
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 4751

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                              Not really.

                                              Gutterboy was attributing the geographical traits to race.

                                              While Kiko realized that the traits were geographical.
                                              Nice try.. ever notice how people of certain races tend to have come from certain places? Like, uh, people of African descent from Africa? Gee, wonder why?

                                              There is no difference in saying that a trait is geographical rather than racial. Its the same deal. Some people are just afraid to use the word race to describe it.

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                                              • High Quality
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 5741

                                                #123
                                                Quiet, whats your obsession with Nietzsche?

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                                                • Sly_RJ
                                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 17042

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Gutterboy


                                                  Nice try.. ever notice how people of certain races tend to have come from certain places? Like, uh, people of African descent from Africa? Gee, wonder why?

                                                  There is no difference in saying that a trait is geographical rather than racial. Its the same deal. Some people are just afraid to use the word race to describe it.
                                                  RACE and GEOGRAPHICAL are completely different issues. To even suggest they're the same is laughable.

                                                  Various living conditions REQUIRE different tasks and skills of the people that live there.

                                                  You may have taken courses in biology, but until you tie your biology knowledge with knowledge gained through cultural anthropology, you're missing out on a huge chunk of information.
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                                                  • Gutterboy
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 4751

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                    RACE and GEOGRAPHICAL are completely different issues. To even suggest they're the same is laughable.

                                                    Various living conditions REQUIRE different tasks and skills of the people that live there.

                                                    You may have taken courses in biology, but until you tie your biology knowledge with knowledge gained through cultural anthropology, you're missing out on a huge chunk of information.
                                                    Keep desperately denying reality in order to keep up that political agenda..

                                                    Pygmies are shorter than average. Shortness is a pygmie racial charicteristic. Looked at another way, you could say that pygmie shortness is a geographic charicteristic, because these short people seem to come from the same place.

                                                    Where you have it wrong is in thinking that saying "Its geographical" somehow changes, invalidates or replaces the fact that it is also racial.

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                                                    • quiet
                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                      • 25115

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by High Quality
                                                      Quiet, whats your obsession with Nietzsche?
                                                      i don't have an obsession with Nietzche.

                                                      i have an obsession with Philosophy - from a existential/post-modern/cybernetic perspective.

                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                      • SleazyDream
                                                        I'm here for SPORT
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 41470

                                                        #127
                                                        Quiet must be serious about this girl, he posts "na na ne na na I have a girlfriend now" and then fucks off somewhere with her leaving us all alone here.

                                                        Anyone else jealous of this girl - she TOOK Quiet from us!
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                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 41470

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                          Quiet must be serious about this girl, he posts "na na ne na na I have a girlfriend now" and then fucks off somewhere with her leaving us all alone here.

                                                          Anyone else jealous of this girl - she TOOK Quiet from us!
                                                          looks like I spoke too soon.
                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                          • fnet
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                            • 1721

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by quiet
                                                            something i've never done before. any advice?

                                                            Japanese Canadian girl? I assume there a lot of Japanese Canadians living where her family is? Ask her if she's issei, nisei, sansei, yonsei, or gosei... it makes a difference in what she'll expect of herself and you.

                                                            Make an effort to get along with her family. If distant relatives make noise about your distinctive physiology, ignore it with a smile, it happens. Respect the idea that her parents wanna think she's still a virgin, but don't let it rope you into matrimony.

                                                            Anecdotally, don't let it become a distance relationship.

                                                            Take a first year Japanese language course. Seriously. You'll understand a good deal more by hanging out with the students.
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                                                            • fnet
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 1721

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by quiet


                                                              i don't have an obsession with Nietzche.

                                                              i have an obsession with Philosophy - from a existential/post-modern/cybernetic perspective.

                                                              ...Nietzsche just happened to have been born posthumously.
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                                                              • Pornwolf
                                                                Drunk and Unruly
                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 22712

                                                                #131
                                                                Damnit. I wanted Quiet to myself. I guess this means no more weekend Niagra Falls rendezvous for us.
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                                                                • cherrylula
                                                                  lol
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 15969

                                                                  #132
                                                                  go Kiko

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                                                                  • quiet
                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                    • 25115

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                    Damnit. I wanted Quiet to myself. I guess this means no more weekend Niagra Falls rendezvous for us.
                                                                    don't be sad, there's always room for one more...

                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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