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  • BFT3K
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2005
    • 10764
    #1

    CCBill Business Question: Best Way To Offer A Solo Model Site Profit Split?

    My initial thought is to add the model's CCBill referral code to all of the join links within her own site, so when anyone goes to the site, and the sale is derived directly from that specific site's join link redirect, then the profit is split with the model.

    Affiliates who promote the solo sites can simply link directly to the program's join page, so they are also covered, without any compromise.

    Any advice on this?

    Thanks in advance!
    Last edited by BFT3K; 11-16-2009, 10:27 AM.
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    • chronig
      Registered User
      • Oct 2009
      • 2653
      #2
      what kind of 1989 internet configuration you are trying to hack?

      That's a horrible idea... .... CCBill allows you to split the profits before they even send you the money... they can send her a cheque directly from within your webmaster admin, she doesn't need her own affiliate account

      You could always manually pay the model as well, and provided you both live in established countries, you could even do it over the internet...

      I'd be scared to see what kind of website you come up with, especially in this current market, with these kinds of 'initial thoughts'

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        • BFT3K
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2005
          • 10764
          #3
          Originally posted by chronig
          what kind of 1989 internet configuration you are trying to hack?

          That's a horrible idea... .... CCBill allows you to split the profits before they even send you the money... they can send her a cheque directly from within your webmaster admin, she doesn't need her own affiliate account

          You could always manually pay the model as well, and provided you both live in established countries, you could even do it over the internet...

          I'd be scared to see what kind of website you come up with, especially in this current market, with these kinds of 'initial thoughts'
          So you are saying that I can tell CCBill that I want a partner account established for the RandomModel.com website within a program, and they will be capable of calculating this single site's profit split for you?

          I am discussing a solo model site within a multi-site network, with a common join page - NOT a solo girl site on its own.
          Last edited by BFT3K; 11-16-2009, 10:32 AM.

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            • CCBill Paul
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2004
              • 1005
              #4
              That is correct. If you set up the new site as a subaccount you can send in this form and tell us to payout a certain percentage of the sales to anyone you would wish.
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                • BFT3K
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 10764
                  #5
                  Originally posted by CCBill Paul
                  That is correct. If you set up the new site as a subaccount you can send in this form and tell us to payout a certain percentage of the sales to anyone you would wish.
                  Thanks for the form link Paul!

                  How does CCBill determine how the sale of a multi-pass join is specifically credited to a partner of just ONE of the sites in the network if no referral links are provided or tracked specifically from that solo model's site?

                  For example, a program owner offers 5 sites...

                  00001.com
                  00002.com
                  00003.com
                  00004.com
                  00005.com

                  All sites bring you to ONE join page, so if a surfer joins any site they are granted access to all.

                  You only want to split the overall profits derived from site 00003.com.

                  How does CCBill make this calculation?

                  I can see if it is a solo site, on its own, and you set up a profit split with a partner for just the one site, but if the site is part of a multi-site network, and you are not using a CCBill referral code, how does CCBill do the math?

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                    • nation-x
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 5370
                      #6
                      Originally posted by BFT3K
                      My initial thought is to add the model's CCBill referral code to all of the join links within her own site, so when anyone goes to the site, and the sale is derived directly from that specific site's join link redirect, then the profit is split with the model.

                      Affiliates who promote the solo sites can simply link directly to the program's join page, so they are also covered, without any compromise.

                      Any advice on this?

                      Thanks in advance!
                      Use NATS and then you can make her a site partner.

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                        • Beaver Bob
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 1099
                          #7
                          Originally posted by BFT3K
                          Thanks for the form link Paul!

                          How does CCBill determine how the sale of a multi-pass join is specifically credited to a partner of just ONE of the sites in the network if no referral links are provided or tracked specifically from that solo model's site?

                          For example, a program owner offers 5 sites...

                          00001.com
                          00002.com
                          00003.com
                          00004.com
                          00005.com

                          All sites bring you to ONE join page, so if a surfer joins any site they are granted access to all.

                          You only want to split the overall profits derived from site 00003.com.

                          How does CCBill make this calculation?

                          I can see if it is a solo site, on its own, and you set up a profit split with a partner for just the one site, but if the site is part of a multi-site network, and you are not using a CCBill referral code, how does CCBill do the math?
                          If all your sites point to one join page, you can pass a site's sub-account number in the join link and then pass that on to the form.
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                            • BFT3K
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 10764
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Beaver Bob
                              If all your sites point to one join page, you can pass a site's sub-account number in the join link and then pass that on to the form.
                              I think that's what I suggested right at the top.

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                                • Beaver Bob
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 1099
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                  I think that's what I suggested right at the top.
                                  its the way i'd do it.
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                                    • BFT3K
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2005
                                      • 10764
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Beaver Bob
                                      its the way i'd do it.
                                      Shy of NATS, I just don't see how CCBill would have any way to isolate one site's join credit, within a multi-site network.

                                      They would have to credit the join with any and all redirection, so if a person visits all of your sites and then joins, and site 00003 has simply been visited in the mix, then your partner on site 00003 will be credited.

                                      Unless there is a more involved process, adding a profit split for site 00003 will be almost like offering this partner a split on ALL of your joins, since the referral code is not locked into just the one site.

                                      CCBill Paul, can you clarify please?

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                                        • chronig
                                          Registered User
                                          • Oct 2009
                                          • 2653
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by BFT3K
                                          Shy of NATS, I just don't see how CCBill would have any way to isolate one site's join credit, within a multi-site network.

                                          They would have to credit the join with any and all redirection, so if a person visits all of your sites and then joins, and site 00003 has simply been visited in the mix, then your partner on site 00003 will be credited.

                                          Unless there is a more involved process, adding a profit split for site 00003 will be almost like offering this partner a split on ALL of your joins, since the referral code is not locked into just the one site.

                                          CCBill Paul, can you clarify please?
                                          Simply make sure that you register each site (or each site that you need to split profit share from) as it's own sub-account. Then, regardless of your multi-pass configuration, splitting the profits with a model of one particular sub account will be completely seperate, and won't require your quirky work-around...

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                                            • CCBill Paul
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 1005
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by BFT3K
                                              Thanks for the form link Paul!

                                              How does CCBill determine how the sale of a multi-pass join is specifically credited to a partner of just ONE of the sites in the network if no referral links are provided or tracked specifically from that solo model's site?

                                              For example, a program owner offers 5 sites...

                                              00001.com
                                              00002.com
                                              00003.com
                                              00004.com
                                              00005.com

                                              All sites bring you to ONE join page, so if a surfer joins any site they are granted access to all.

                                              You only want to split the overall profits derived from site 00003.com.

                                              How does CCBill make this calculation?

                                              I can see if it is a solo site, on its own, and you set up a profit split with a partner for just the one site, but if the site is part of a multi-site network, and you are not using a CCBill referral code, how does CCBill do the math?
                                              In this case all of the sites, 00001.com, 00002.com, and so on, will need to have their own separate join forms.

                                              Basically we will setup the splits per site so that say, 00001.com has a 50% split to Jane and 00002.com has a 50% split to Susan. Even if all of them share the sames members sections for tracking purposes they would all need their own separate join forms so that any sales made to 00001.com get paid to Jane, etc.


                                              Just as, chronig said. thanks!
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                                                • BFT3K
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                  • 10764
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by chronig
                                                  Simply make sure that you register each site (or each site that you need to split profit share from) as it's own sub-account. Then, regardless of your multi-pass configuration, splitting the profits with a model of one particular sub account will be completely seperate, and won't require your quirky work-around...
                                                  I currently have 7 CCBill sub-accounts... one for each of the 6 sites within my network, and one for PeckerPass.com, as the premium multi-pass site.

                                                  Only the ONE sub-account ever has any activity, as it is a multi-pass site that shares the joins, and that is PeckerPass.com, as that is where the join page exists.

                                                  If I add any additional sub-accounts, and I merge them into my network (not as separate sites) they will also register zero sales activity, as all sales activity is credited to just the main account.

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                                                    • heymatty
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 2188
                                                      #14
                                                      You can have sites in a network with different join pages.

                                                      Set up 5 sites on different subaccounts. Split the correct one. Let all sites share 1 password file so members get multi access.

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                                                        • BFT3K
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Dec 2005
                                                          • 10764
                                                          #15
                                                          So I need to create 6+ join pages and change my current CCBill admin processs, or add the model's CCBill referral code to JUST the join links from the solo site?

                                                          And how was my original idea so bad then?

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                                                            • BFT3K
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                              • 10764
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by CCBill Paul
                                                              In this case all of the sites, 00001.com, 00002.com, and so on, will need to have their own separate join forms.

                                                              Basically we will setup the splits per site so that say, 00001.com has a 50% split to Jane and 00002.com has a 50% split to Susan. Even if all of them share the sames members sections for tracking purposes they would all need their own separate join forms so that any sales made to 00001.com get paid to Jane, etc.

                                                              Just as, chronig said. thanks!
                                                              What if I am happy with one sub-account for all of my current sites, but I want to add another site with a profit spit?

                                                              Could I leave everything the way it is (6 sites point to a 7th sub-account), and then set up a solo model site as sub-account 8, with it's own join page, so the split is accurate, without having to make up 8 join pages?

                                                              One join page as is, for the current 6 sites, and then a separate join page for solo model splits moving forward, but sharing access to all sites?

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                                                                • CCBill Paul
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 1005
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                  What if I am happy with one sub-account for all of my current sites, but I want to add another site with a profit spit?

                                                                  Could I leave everything the way it is (6 sites point to a 7th sub-account), and then set up a solo model site as sub-account 8, with it's own join page, so the split is accurate, without having to make up 8 join pages?

                                                                  One join page as is, for the current 6 sites, and then a separate join page for solo model splits moving forward, but sharing access to all sites?
                                                                  That would work just fine.
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                                                                    • AmeliaG
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 10670
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                      What if I am happy with one sub-account for all of my current sites, but I want to add another site with a profit spit?

                                                                      Could I leave everything the way it is (6 sites point to a 7th sub-account), and then set up a solo model site as sub-account 8, with it's own join page, so the split is accurate, without having to make up 8 join pages?

                                                                      One join page as is, for the current 6 sites, and then a separate join page for solo model splits moving forward, but sharing access to all sites?

                                                                      Just group the accounts so your affiliates get credit for all sites. The ability to calculate splits and pay out to partners is one way in which CCBill is very much superior to Epoch, although CCBill is not always good about updating addresses, so, if your model moves around a lot, I recommend having CCBill cut her checks but mail them either to you and you can hand the envelopes to the model.
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                                                                        • BFT3K
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Dec 2005
                                                                          • 10764
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by CCBill Paul
                                                                          That would work just fine.
                                                                          Great! - Thanks for all of the good advice!

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