I HATE to say it... But looks like IE is better than FF & Safari =(

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  • Meeper
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2007
    • 2642

    #1

    I HATE to say it... But looks like IE is better than FF & Safari =(

    I love FF (except for this most recent release) but damn, these reports are rough.

    http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=8489

    Among Web browsers, Mozilla Firefox had the largest percentage of Web vulnerabilities, followed by Apple Safari, whose browser showed a vast increase in exploits, due to vulnerabilities reported in the Safari iPhone browser:

    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/inde...id=113336&pn=2

    By and large, we found that Internet Explorer 8 performed well, and beat Firefox 3.0.7 in the majority of our time trials.

    However, IE 8's performance advantage is relatively negligible. In most of our testing, IE 8's advantage was half a second or less. One notable exception, however, was in loading the English-language Wikipedia home page, where IE 8 beat out Firefox by an average of one second (IE 8 took about 2.2 seconds to load the page on average, while Firefox 3 took about 3.3 seconds). Also of note: on average, IE 8 loaded Apple's home page nearly twice as quickly as Firefox.
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  • PornMD
    Mainstream Businessman
    • Jan 2007
    • 9291

    #2
    Chrome...
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    • ArsewithClass
      So Fucking Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 7957

      #3
      Originally posted by PornMD
      Chrome...
      I use google chrome also... No faults & really useful!

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      • MetaMan
        I AM WEB 2.0
        • Jan 2003
        • 28682

        #4
        i ditched firefox after the last update runs terrible for me for some reason.

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        • CYF
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          • Mar 2009
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          #5
          The "study" was conducted by methodology unknown, includes no references to raw data and goes completely against publicly available data.

          The company that did this study is also a Microsoft Certified Partner

          It appears to be based on number of patches. Firefox patches a lot of small bugs. Microsoft releases one huge patch that fixes tons of bugs. If you go by that methodology, IE6 is the MOST secure since they don't patch it anymore.
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          • alias
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            • Apr 2001
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            #6
            Anyone use chrome? It seems fastest for sites like gfy that are mostly code and text.
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            • ArsewithClass
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              • Mar 2007
              • 7957

              #7
              Originally posted by PornMD
              Chrome...
              Originally posted by ArsewithClass
              I use google chrome also... No faults & really useful!
              Originally posted by alias
              Anyone use chrome? It seems fastest for sites like gfy that are mostly code and text.
              As said previously...

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              • d-null
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                • Apr 2007
                • 13724

                #8
                can't seem to find an easy way to check PR with Chrome

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                • Barefootsies
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                  • Feb 2005
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MetaMan
                  i ditched firefox after the last update runs terrible for me for some reason.
                  I rolled back to a previous version, but at this rate. Simply going to have to dump it myself. I.E. on my other machine simply is working better and not crashing out like FF.

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                  • ArsewithClass
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 7957

                    #10
                    Originally posted by d-null
                    can't seem to find an easy way to check PR with Chrome
                    Yes, this would be good to know!

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                    • d-null
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                      • Apr 2007
                      • 13724

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                      I rolled back to a previous version, but at this rate. Simply going to have to dump it myself. I.E. on my other machine simply is working better and not crashing out like FF.

                      their strength used to be in the plugins, but lately they have been unreliable

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                      • ArsewithClass
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 7957

                        #12
                        Originally posted by d-null
                        can't seem to find an easy way to check PR with Chrome
                        Still hoping someone knows a way...

                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                        I rolled back to a previous version, but at this rate. Simply going to have to dump it myself. I.E. on my other machine simply is working better and not crashing out like FF.

                        Originally posted by d-null
                        their strength used to be in the plugins, but lately they have been unreliable
                        This is true. It seems very slow now also!?

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                        • sandman!
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                          • Mar 2001
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                          #13
                          lolz......
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                          • sysk
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                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1005

                            #14
                            I dislike IE because it doesn't give a damn about W3C standards. I don't care for the rest
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                            • tranza
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 57559

                              #15
                              I cant agree with that..
                              I'm just a newbie.

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                              • Supz
                                Arthur Flegenheimer
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 11057

                                #16
                                Chrome is where it is at.

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                                • potter
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 6559

                                  #17
                                  Ok, I'll bite.

                                  Since that report says Internet Explorer is better than both Firefox and Safari. Can you please link me to the Linux and OSX download for Internet Explorer 8? I believe those reports and would love to make the switch.

                                  ;)

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                                  • Iron Fist
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                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 23400

                                    #18
                                    The general public doesn't buy it... just ask ANYONE who ever had spyware on their system from using Internet Explorer.
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                                    • Matt 26z
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                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 18481

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sysk
                                      I dislike IE because it doesn't give a damn about W3C standards.
                                      IE's own standards have always been better than W3C's. Every single step of the way MS has had the better way of doing things.

                                      W3C, like many organizations, exists only to take donations and make itself bigger.

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                                      • stoner529
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2008
                                        • 421

                                        #20
                                        i do notice if i keep my smart thumbs admin open all the time it eats up memory in the ff browser. i simply close ff and restart it. problem solved. a browser is a browser . firefox has cool adons.

                                        The next thing you have to look at is how these browsers will run in windows 7 if you decide to upgrade or do a new install. I feel their are a bunch of factors involved.

                                        That report dosent tell you if it had ie open at the same time as ff or which page the tested on first. if the computer has cleaned out or what not and if anything had cookies stored in it. a page will always load faster if it is stored in the temp files. Its not like i have never had any browser crash on me. they all do.

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                                        • _Richard_
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                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 30989

                                          #21
                                          hmm FF has been crashing a lot for me

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                                          • blogman9
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                                            • Dec 2005
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                                            #22
                                            FF doesn't works greate on linux, but works.
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                                            • Jimmy Rock
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                                              • Feb 2005
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                              I use google chrome also... No faults & really useful!
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                                              • Vjo
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 6082

                                                #24
                                                After all the ballyhoo I expected more options. Chrome has hardly any. Neither has a simple "right click to save to desktop" I suppose I could install a bucnh of add ons or updates but the lack of options makes me think IE aint so bad.

                                                Chrome runs nice but needs more options. I could not get a decent font/picture ratio with firefox. Plus old add ons like Roboform no longer work.

                                                Sorry they seem way inferior to IE overall except perhaps in security. And I never thought I would be on MS side ever.
                                                Last edited by Vjo; 11-13-2009, 01:54 PM.

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                                                • Horny Joe
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                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 2661

                                                  #25
                                                  Maybe time to give Opera a real go... ? Like Opera a lot, but I have gotten used to FF.... Chrome... yeah, ok.
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                                                  • Vjo
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 6082

                                                    #26
                                                    Firefox is nice and I prob need to mess around a bit. I am impressed with FF's interface and abilities with plug ins I heard good stuff about.

                                                    I will def try Opera. I know there are like 20 or more browsers out there. Somewhere I seen or someone posted a good comparison chart. Think it was from this board.

                                                    Plus what wm wants to give up their right click context menu they prob have now..
                                                    Last edited by Vjo; 11-13-2009, 03:56 PM.

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                                                    • PizzaDelivery
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                                                      • Aug 2009
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                                                      #27
                                                      Mozilla Firefox rules

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                                                      • LoveSandra
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                                                        • Aug 2008
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by sysk
                                                        I dislike IE because it doesn't give a damn about W3C standards. I don't care for the rest

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                                                        • psili
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                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 5526

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                          IE's own standards have always been better than W3C's. Every single step of the way MS has had the better way of doing things.
                                                          I want some of what you're huffing.
                                                          Must be good shit to make a post like that.
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                                                          • Darrah
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                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                            • 577

                                                            #30
                                                            Is this why FF is very slow for me now?

                                                            What's the big deal about Chrome though? I heard it's very stripped and simple compared to all the bells and whistles other browsers have. Is it because it's new and no one cares yet to go after Chrome yet and attack them? I also hear how people use Chrome for some sites while FF for others. Which sites are more suited for Chrome than FF? I've always used FF because of all the problems I had with IE since FF first came out.

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                                                            • stickyfingerz
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                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                              • 24984

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Darrah
                                                              Is this why FF is very slow for me now?

                                                              What's the big deal about Chrome though? I heard it's very stripped and simple compared to all the bells and whistles other browsers have. Is it because it's new and no one cares yet to go after Chrome yet and attack them? I also hear how people use Chrome for some sites while FF for others. Which sites are more suited for Chrome than FF? I've always used FF because of all the problems I had with IE since FF first came out.
                                                              Only reason I use firefox anymore is for one of my hosts control panels works best in FF. I use it for testing, and few tasks that only work with FF. Rest of the time I am 100% chrome. It just works.

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                                                              • Matt 26z
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                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                • 18481

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by psili
                                                                I want some of what you're huffing.
                                                                Must be good shit to make a post like that.
                                                                lol It's true.

                                                                MS is to the W3C what the United States is to the UN. They play along, but it's all for show.

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                                                                • buzzard
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by sandman!
                                                                  lolz......
                                                                  ha! exactly

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                                                                  • Darrah
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                                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                                    • 577

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                    Only reason I use firefox anymore is for one of my hosts control panels works best in FF. I use it for testing, and few tasks that only work with FF. Rest of the time I am 100% chrome. It just works.
                                                                    Will Chrome import my thousands of bookmarks and into its each specific folder? My bookmarks into IE gets scattered out of their folders and in alphabetical order!

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                                                                    • digifan
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                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 14618

                                                                      #35
                                                                      With FF3.5.6 or the FF3.6 beta2 out they should use that to compare.
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                                                                      • seeandsee
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                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • okny
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                                                                          • Aug 2002
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Chrome, uninstall the rest
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                                                                          • Darrah
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                                                                            • Jun 2009
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by digifan
                                                                            With FF3.5.6 or the FF3.6 beta2 out they should use that to compare.
                                                                            No I have version 3.5.5.

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                                                                            • potter
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                                                                              • Dec 2004
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by potter
                                                                              Ok, I'll bite.

                                                                              Since that report says Internet Explorer is better than both Firefox and Safari. Can you please link me to the Linux and OSX download for Internet Explorer 8? I believe those reports and would love to make the switch.

                                                                              ;)
                                                                              .... Still Waiting??

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                                                                              • tiger
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                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                • 6986

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Lolz FF still the best. FF extensions make it unbeatable at least for now.

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                                                                                • Chosen
                                                                                  • Aug 2001
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I vote for Opera

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                                                                                  • Klen
                                                                                    • Aug 2006
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I am kind a tired with 1 gb memory usage on FF,but i cant imagine life without all those extensions

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                                                                                    • Dirty D
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by LoveSandra
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