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  • Semi-Retired-Dave
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    • Apr 2004
    • 11190

    #51
    Originally posted by MasterBlow
    Who cares for muscle? Women love powerful men and money is the power.
    Very well said. That's why I don't work out. It's the easy way out. I just work harder.
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    • Screwed Up
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      • Aug 2002
      • 1120

      #52
      Originally posted by NetHorse
      ...burns fat, (especially if you do it first thing in the morning on an empty stomach) ...
      Say bye bye to your muscle if you do this.
      NEVER train on an empty stomach. Most important meals of the day are your breakfast, pre- and post-workout meals.
      I'd say having a lean muscular body is 40% workout and 60% diet. Watch your results skyrocket if you take care of your food.
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      • RTP
        aka Jimmy James
        • Nov 2006
        • 1335

        #53
        HIIT can work with weights (Cardio Circuit) or just plain out HIIT bike or whatever...not just running. And yes, they say abs are made in the kitchen diet is a major factor. Try this on your next workout, between sets throw in a 10 min high intensity Cardio set, you'll elevate your heart rate and rock the workout, burn without muscle loss.

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        • NetHorse
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          • Dec 2006
          • 3526

          #54
          Originally posted by Screwed Up
          Say bye bye to your muscle if you do this.
          NEVER train on an empty stomach. Most important meals of the day are your breakfast, pre- and post-workout meals.
          I'd say having a lean muscular body is 40% workout and 60% diet. Watch your results skyrocket if you take care of your food.
          Ever heard of amino acids with beta alanine? I take "purple wraith" which most notably has:

          Beta Alanine - energy, endurance
          Citrulline Malate - energy, endurance
          L-Leucine, Glutamine, L-Threonine - Prevents muscle breakdown.

          Diet is very important, but I laugh at people who completely overlook cardio. Cardio is a solid foundation for everything else.

          Doing cardio first thing in the morning while taking supplements to prevent muscle breakdown is the most effective. You burn stored fat, instead of burning what you've eaten up until your cardio session. I've gained a lot of mass and managed to stay lean, so it's definitely worked for me.
          Last edited by NetHorse; 11-09-2009, 12:02 AM.
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          • PenisFace
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            • Oct 2003
            • 3774

            #55
            Most of you fat faggot's would bulk up in no time if you started lifting, you all eat like 8,000 calories a day you slobs.
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            • stev0
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              • Aug 2003
              • 6801

              #56
              Originally posted by MasterBlow
              Who cares for muscle? Women love powerful men and money is the power.
              lol, well... that's what ugly fat guys say anyways...

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              • andrej_NDC
                Registered User
                • May 2004
                • 7760

                #57
                Originally posted by NetHorse
                Not if you take aminos to prevent muscle breakdown. Like I said, I've gained over 60lbs and the bulk of it was in the last year and a half. It is true that lyposis doesn't being until after 15 minutes, but you gotta work to see results.



                Again it's a combination of DIET and CARDIO, cardio is a myth for people who are too lazy to do it. Bust your ass doing a HIT training routine and eat properly and watch as the fat melts off twice as fast as just doing the diet aspect.



                That's totally false. Do a 45 minute cardio session and your metabolism will be raised long after you're done working out. Not sure who told you that.

                Dude, nobody told me that, its study facts. I never said cardio doesn't help a little when making a diet, it can help to get you faster to ketose, but losing fat is only about diet, nothing more needs to be done. Check google for cyclic ketogenic diet.

                btw since I started workig out, I gained more than 100 pounds(80% of it muscle), I'm working out and studying things about it for 10+ years, I don't guess, trust me.

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                • andrej_NDC
                  Registered User
                  • May 2004
                  • 7760

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Screwed Up
                  Say bye bye to your muscle if you do this.
                  NEVER train on an empty stomach. Most important meals of the day are your breakfast, pre- and post-workout meals.
                  He isn't wrong, its different to be on empty stomach in the morning and in the evening. In the morning, the body is somehow set up to lose fat mainly and water, you don't lose much muscle. Do it any other time during the day and you would.

                  I was working out in the morning for months, if anything I was stronger, as the testosterone levels are high in the morning and you don't need food right away to feel strong, even if it seems so.

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                  • tranza
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 57559

                    #59
                    Originally posted by MasterBlow
                    Who cares for muscle? Women love powerful men and money is the power.
                    That is a true point of view...
                    I'm just a newbie.

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                    • NetHorse
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3526

                      #60
                      Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                      Dude, nobody told me that, its study facts. I never said cardio doesn't help a little when making a diet, it can help to get you faster to ketose, but losing fat is only about diet, nothing more needs to be done. Check google for cyclic ketogenic diet.

                      btw since I started workig out, I gained more than 100 pounds(80% of it muscle), I'm working out and studying things about it for 10+ years, I don't guess, trust me.
                      I've never done the ketose diet but I heard it's effective, (and a pain in the ass to follow). I still feel combining diet with a hardcore cardio program will yield much better results. People who are fat are generally out of shape and IMO need the cardio. Yeah you can lose some fat with just diet but that does nothing for your cardiovascular health. Combine all three, (weight training, cardio, proper diet) and you will lose the most fat, be in the best shape and have the most endurance in and out of the weight room.
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                      • Pleasurepays
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 11913

                        #61
                        Originally posted by NetHorse
                        I've never done the ketose diet but I heard it's effective, (and a pain in the ass to follow). I still feel combining diet with a hardcore cardio program will yield much better results. People who are fat are generally out of shape and IMO need the cardio. Yeah you can lose some fat with just diet but that does nothing for your cardiovascular health. Combine all three, (weight training, cardio, proper diet) and you will lose the most fat, be in the best shape and have the most endurance in and out of the weight room.
                        it's "Ketogenic" and "ketosis"

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                        • RadicalSights
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1595

                          #62
                          Originally posted by james_clickmemedia
                          Takes a lifestyle change to stay in shape.

                          Or just good genes.

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                          • After Shock Media
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                            • Mar 2001
                            • 35299

                            #63
                            Funny watching the side arguments in this thread.

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                            • NetHorse
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 3526

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                              it's "Ketogenic" and "ketosis"
                              Please follow my posts and replace all grammatical errors, I need someone that has nothing better to do. Thanks in advance.
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                              • BVF
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                                • Jan 2002
                                • 13975

                                #65
                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                Dude, nobody told me that, its study facts. I never said cardio doesn't help a little when making a diet, it can help to get you faster to ketose, but losing fat is only about diet, nothing more needs to be done. Check google for cyclic ketogenic diet.

                                btw since I started workig out, I gained more than 100 pounds(80% of it muscle), I'm working out and studying things about it for 10+ years, I don't guess, trust me.
                                If you fat muthafuckas want to lose weight, don't listen to this dude......I used to lift weights hard while neglecting cardio and all I did was get bigger muscles and push the fat out further, making me look even more fat.....

                                But once I found out that my blood pressure was high and all of that, I started doing CARDIO and the weight started to come off....Fuck the scientific and philosophical shit.....If you gotta lose flab, do cardio.

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                                • Choopa Phil
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                                  • Apr 2009
                                  • 3965

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by BVF
                                  If you fat muthafuckas want to lose weight, don't listen to this dude......I used to lift weights hard while neglecting cardio and all I did was get bigger muscles and push the fat out further, making me look even more fat.....

                                  But once I found out that my blood pressure was high and all of that, I started doing CARDIO and the weight started to come off....Fuck the scientific and philosophical shit.....If you gotta lose flab, do cardio.
                                  not entirely true on the cardio man, i hate to break it to you. I the highest BF % i was was 14% now i maintain at around 11-10%, i have never done cardio and im pretty much constantly bulking. Yes the ladies do love the muscles, i dont do it 100% for my own health either yanno Other than that theres is a strong ignorance of misinformation in this thread. IM callin all u mofos out who say u lift...lets see pics...
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                                  • Choopa Phil
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                                    • Apr 2009
                                    • 3965

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                    He isn't wrong, its different to be on empty stomach in the morning and in the evening. In the morning, the body is somehow set up to lose fat mainly and water, you don't lose much muscle. Do it any other time during the day and you would.

                                    I was working out in the morning for months, if anything I was stronger, as the testosterone levels are high in the morning and you don't need food right away to feel strong, even if it seems so.
                                    Really? The main reason u burn fat in the morning is due to the fact that there is no calories in your body, its been used OVER NIGHT. Technically your "stronger" in the morning because your testosterone is up...however people are generally mis-lead by this statement. Ive jerked off before going and making personal records in the gym, and low and behold ur test is lower after that. Natural test levels, in regards to mornings and nights will have LITTLE effect on what u lift in the gym. Now if you were supplementing with AAS or steroids then thats a different story, yet you still need food to be at your peak strength. A supplement that will help this is Purple Wraath as mentioned above or CORE ABC, these are amino acid supplements, amino acids help prevent muscle wasting due to morning cardio sessions and will help spare muscle when trying to lose weight. They dont prevent it 100% and 9 times out of 10 you will lose strength when on a cut
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                                    • andrej_NDC
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                                      • May 2004
                                      • 7760

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by DLXphil
                                      Really? The main reason u burn fat in the morning is due to the fact that there is no calories in your body, its been used OVER NIGHT.
                                      Actually, you still have enough sugar in the blood to cover the training. You need to get rid of sugar for 2-3 days to have "no calories" in the body. But amino surely helps in the morning.

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                                      • andrej_NDC
                                        Registered User
                                        • May 2004
                                        • 7760

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by BVF
                                        If you fat muthafuckas want to lose weight, don't listen to this dude......I used to lift weights hard while neglecting cardio and all I did was get bigger muscles and push the fat out further, making me look even more fat.....

                                        But once I found out that my blood pressure was high and all of that, I started doing CARDIO and the weight started to come off....Fuck the scientific and philosophical shit.....If you gotta lose flab, do cardio.
                                        But that was just because of your diet. If you don't want to give up food, then yeah you can use cardio to burn some more calories to be in negative numbers for the day and lose weight, BUT most of what you lose will be water and muscles, not fat.

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                                        • andrej_NDC
                                          Registered User
                                          • May 2004
                                          • 7760

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by NetHorse
                                          I've never done the ketose diet but I heard it's effective, (and a pain in the ass to follow).
                                          There are card diets which are a pain to follow, but CKD is actually super easy...not eating carbs for 4-5 days of the week and then eating a lot of them during the weekend. Said super simple, of course. But I agree that cardio is important, especially for the heart. So it really is the best to do all 3 things.

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                                          • Choopa Phil
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                                            • Apr 2009
                                            • 3965

                                            #71
                                            if you eat a small snack before working out you will burn more calories effectively than on an empty stomach. Your body needs food to workout and to effectively build muscle. Starving yourself during these times is one of the most detrimental things a person can do with their training
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                                            • andrej_NDC
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                                              • May 2004
                                              • 7760

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by DLXphil
                                              if you eat a small snack before working out you will burn more calories effectively than on an empty stomach. Your body needs food to workout and to effectively build muscle. Starving yourself during these times is one of the most detrimental things a person can do with their training
                                              I agree with that, but it just works different when you wake up in the morning. Its some hormone thing that won't allow to destroys your muscles when you work out.

                                              I had periods when I tried this out and I was growing muscle, didn't notice any problems.
                                              Last edited by andrej_NDC; 11-09-2009, 04:52 PM.

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                                              • Choopa Phil
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                                                • Apr 2009
                                                • 3965

                                                #73
                                                Yea a hormone that protects ur muscles, if and when u find this "hormone" let me know. You should just stop spreading misinformation thats all.
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                                                • Raf1
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                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 12117

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by BV
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                                                  • bDok
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                                                    • Feb 2005
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                                                    #75
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                                                    • jigg
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                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 2527

                                                      #76
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                                                      • Serial Pervert
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                                                        • Mar 2008
                                                        • 2666

                                                        #77
                                                        Woman love money!

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                                                        • Robbie
                                                          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 20960

                                                          #78
                                                          Bottom line is your gonna look better, feel better, think more clearly, and be even more successful if you work out. A lot of guys are talking about money getting chicks. Yeah it does. But guess what? Having your body, mind, and soul in harmony and all kicking on 8 cylinders will help you make MORE money. And if you think bitches like you when you're out of shape with money, then just wait until your looking and feeling good with all that money too.
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                                                          • BVF
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                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 13975

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                            But that was just because of your diet. If you don't want to give up food, then yeah you can use cardio to burn some more calories to be in negative numbers for the day and lose weight, BUT most of what you lose will be water and muscles, not fat.
                                                            My diet hasn't changed much.....Only thing different between now and when I was just lifting weights is that I now do cardio....I can't possibly lose muscle because I lift weights hard....Plus I'm getting stronger in the weight room....It's hard to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time and I'm staying kind of even right now but my bodyfat is going down and I'm able to fit in a lower pant size.

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