I've just verified my age on XHamster... Serious question.

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  • plsureking
    bored
    • Aug 2003
    • 4900

    #31
    Originally posted by CurrentlySober
    Yes, all unknown atm, but interesting times ahead. My only thought would be that if they are not going to say face is acceptable, why would Xhamster be spending money on getting me face ID'd?

    But as you say, no one knows yet...
    AI age prediction model?

    maybe they don't really give a fuck but need some sort of defense. we all have to pretend we tried lol


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    • emmasexytime
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2015
      • 4512

      #32
      Originally posted by INever
      Very good AI to differentiate btwn 17 years 11 months versus 18 years and a month.

      Amazing.
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      • Tubevideditor
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2013
        • 352

        #33
        Originally posted by plsureking
        ya i think the big issue right now is what the fuck qualifies as age verification?

        UK is just deciding on a case by case basis? there's no guidelines?

        some are saying a credit card isn't age verification because it can be borrowed or stolen. they will only accept ID verification?

        i like the verified by Google/Apple/Tinder idea


        #porncms
        UK (OFCOM) have given a lot of guidance and most site owners have been following their suggested regs for some time now. They even did a 3 day online seminar which anyone could register for. For paysite owners, the rules have been in place for months now (unlike tube sites) so if you're leaving it this late...

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        • Tubevideditor
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2013
          • 352

          #34
          Originally posted by CurrentlySober
          In order to remain compliant, they need to Age Check me as I'm in the UK. So I click a box that says 'Free Face Scan' and look at my phone. Took all of 10 seconds, & now its done - I'm verified & it cost me zero as a 'punter'...

          Technically they now have a photo of my face (Which they say will be deleted) but really, what's all the fuss about? Simple and painless...

          No Government ID needed to be uploaded - No one asked me to give them my credit card or debit card - Nothing... ??? Like I say, Simple and painless...

          Now I know that conversation on GFY is very much from the site operators standpoint, how to implement this, what it will cost the operator etc and I get that - But if it can be done as easily as I just did it, is it really going to stop people from doing what I just did? In huge numbers?

          So again, what is all the fuss about?
          I just visited Reddit this morning (NSFW sub) and I had to put my date of birth in before I could go any further. I thought that would be it but I immediately got asked to age verify using a phone/face scan.
          It was quick and easy and having sites like Reddit do this, prob helps as surfers may find it the norm as time goes on.
          Privacy will always be an issue but everyone has phone which is the ultimate tracking device ;)

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          • Tubevideditor
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2013
            • 352

            #35
            Originally posted by INever
            Very good AI to differentiate btwn 17 years 11 months versus 18 years and a month.

            Amazing.
            Those using face recognition solutions don't set the age limit at 18. If you do, you're falling foul of the regs. Only Fans set the limit too low and got pulled up on it not so long ago.
            https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/of...113952107.html
            Estimated age of 23-25 is often the norm.

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            • xxxclusive
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2012
              • 785

              #36
              wankers show your faces lol

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              • asorelli
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2024
                • 464

                #37
                Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                In order to remain compliant, they need to Age Check me as I'm in the UK. So I click a box that says 'Free Face Scan' and look at my phone. Took all of 10 seconds, & now its done - I'm verified & it cost me zero as a 'punter'...

                Technically they now have a photo of my face (Which they say will be deleted) but really, what's all the fuss about? Simple and painless...

                No Government ID needed to be uploaded - No one asked me to give them my credit card or debit card - Nothing... ??? Like I say, Simple and painless...

                Now I know that conversation on GFY is very much from the site operators standpoint, how to implement this, what it will cost the operator etc and I get that - But if it can be done as easily as I just did it, is it really going to stop people from doing what I just did? In huge numbers?

                So again, what is all the fuss about?

                Quick and painless, but at what expense?

                Originally posted by cerulean

                I think that the government, if they are going to require age verification, should build a solution, like id.me, that lets you zero-proof knowledge identify your age to their requirements and let it be saved in an mDL or OpenID format.
                Originally posted by INever
                Stalin, Idi Amin, Robispierre...would have loved this idea.
                Isn't this how it starts? Create barriers to access data (take away free speech) and don't even need to explain how this is a total violation of privacy, and then, the data collection.

                And nothing is ever really deleted.

                Originally posted by xxxclusive
                wankers show your faces lol
                Lonely, bored, drunk, horny, or all of the above, no way in hell would I ever provide a face scan and/or id to watch porn.

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                • plsureking
                  bored
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 4900

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tubevideditor
                  UK (OFCOM) have given a lot of guidance and most site owners have been following their suggested regs for some time now. They even did a 3 day online seminar which anyone could register for. For paysite owners, the rules have been in place for months now (unlike tube sites) so if you're leaving it this late...
                  i didn't leave it this late lol. my clients and site owners have been talking about it for a year or more.

                  PornCMS added a one click blur tool that blurs all the site thumbnails for non-members.

                  then we added Landing pages that can overtake a homepage (or load independently) because site owners wanted an easy way to build SFW landing pages.

                  now this week we added AgeVerification.org integration, which is also a one-click option that pops up the verification window for affected localities.

                  https://porncms.com/?mb=QXJ0aWNsZXxO...JlM2gzeTdpMg==


                  all of the billers i talked to said blurring thumbnails is fine. most said adding a birthdate popup is fine. and all of them say a SFW tour is fine.

                  most of these state laws became law this year. the UK law might have been in the works awhile, but it doesn't affect every site. it only affects UK owners. they have no jurisdiction over anyone else. same with the state laws.

                  i code every day - at least until i start pouring drinks - and most of it is requests by site owners. they generally want to do the minimum possible for compliance. so going overboard is a waste of time.

                  we're doing the minimum as the requirements change. with luck all this bullshit will go away.


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                  • Tubevideditor
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 352

                    #39
                    Originally posted by plsureking

                    the UK law might have been in the works awhile, but it doesn't affect every site. it only affects UK owners. they have no jurisdiction over anyone else. same with the state laws.


                    #porncms
                    OFCOM (UK) have power worldwide - certainly not only UK site/business owners.
                    They've already investigated Score Group who are are US based and made them comply.
                    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safe...raphic-content

                    Likewise, with the biggest porn site Porhub who tried resisting for ages have finally caved in too: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safe...rom-next-month

                    Tomorrow is D-day though with OFCOM with lots of huge NON UK companies (Bluesky, Discord, Grindr, Reddit and X), platforms and sites all committing to AV.
                    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safe...-from-tomorrow

                    The days of where your business (or server) is based is pretty much irrelevant now.

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                    • INever
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 4029

                      #40

                      OFCOM (UK) have power worldwide - certainly not only UK site/business owners.
                      Wrong.

                      ofcom.org.uk
                      Ofcom is the UK’s regulator for the communications services that we use and rely on each day. ...

                      They're the fcc of the uk and if one's host is not an anglophile, then...
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                      • 2MuchMark
                        Mark of 2Much.net
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 50966

                        #41
                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                        You like it; but you also love shit.

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                        • 2MuchMark
                          Mark of 2Much.net
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 50966

                          #42
                          Here's another case on how the porn industry drives technology. It's pretty impressive!

                          Where I think we are at right now is this: There are now several solutions to Age Verification. YOTI is great. We have our own AI Age Verification but YOTI's is really comprehensive.

                          The problem is the legal side. Every region seems to have their own rules and policies. Do adult sites need to retain a copy of the photo ID, or just a token? How do site owners legally prove that customer Joe Blow is an adult without the ID? What if Joe Blow signs up from 1 region then logs in from another where the legal requirements are different?

                          Age tech seems to be moving faster than the legal side, leaving legit porn pedlers scrambling. Again.

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