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  • xxxclusive
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2012
    • 785

    #121
    Originally posted by jerkygo
    im not into that whole paysites like zishy thing..but my general thing in this is that its just a theory that when you dont have access anymore to the pirated content that you then would pay for it..has been proven by studies not be true..the time and money you need to spent to takedown etc. is not worth return you get

    in the onlyfans area the basic way how content gets online is a paid subscriber is leaking it onto a forum and then its get spread everywhere....so the usual onlyfans leak site owner is not the one who actually "stealing" it he is using whats already put online from someone else who paid for it.

    in that siterip niche that might be different i guess they buy it themself with the intend to spread on their sites

    also naming it stealing while its by definition not stealing...thats why they invented copyright infringment because it doesnt fall under the stealing laws

    Ok so you run a porndude clone named jerkdude com

    It's an open secret that pirate tubes link into your hubs and provide traffic, would even say you white wash piracy traffic with these hubs.

    Stop this stupid monetary BS argument whining "mimimi pleaze don't fight my piracy *whine* *whine* the fighting is more expensive than my piracy! plz believe me I dindu nuffin! Truzt me bro" lol

    No one with more than one brain cell buys this shit.

    Others invested hard cash, time and resources to create this content. Buy stealing it and monetizing it by your own you lower the incentives for the creators to creatore more. I know many girls who gave up just because all their content is available for free next day, they are not emotionally stable enough to deal with it and it's a slap into their face when others utilize their work.

    You are simply parasites with tiny dicklets and even smaller balls.

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    • jerkygo
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2022
      • 106

      #122
      Originally posted by xxxclusive
      lol got triggered lil shrink dicklet pirate? Sadly many believe your BS theory and therefore stay passive.

      It isn't even mainly about money but simply to throw pirates stones in the way, what works pretty well from my experience. To do smth also feel really good, seeing thousands of links and files going within one minute while they needed hours to bring them up lol. Goal isn't to erradicate pirace, but to fight them and to bully them.

      Link crawler scripts extract links fast and the rest is copy&paste into the DMCA email. Takes 1 minute.

      And it works, my content was all over the place years ago and now just here and there and they don't upload it big style anymore as I hunt priates and they know my stuff is hot and not worth the hassle. I.e. porntrex doesn't even dare to upload my vids big style anymore for years.



      "A lot of “pirates” simply drop off and don’t become customers."
      You don't even have a tiny dicklet but are also a retard. The end users aren't pirates, but the ones ripping, uploading to create clicks or selling premium downloads like the file lockers and tubes.

      The average users upload their favorite vids in small scale once in a while what isn't even harmful as it creates traffic.


      "at the end of the day i think you fight a battle with no real return"
      Beside monetary my return is already when I see hundreds of links and files gone, it's an emotional return as I won a small battle again.

      I extract the links to filelocker, copy and paste into DMCA email and send it, the "work" a pirated spended an hour for I destroy within 1 minute. It's satisfying.


      That's why I call out every content owner, get your fucking asses up and do smth just for sake of doing smth, it works as it annoys pirates if they have to upload the same files over and over again. They do business and the goal is to make their business harder and lower their profit margin.
      first of all is there any need for insulting?
      do you talk in real life lie that with ppl whos opinions you dont like?

      i think overall we talk about different topics my part was mainly about onlyfans content which i explained how that gets leaked and used on the onlyfans leaks sites.
      if its about other full siterips site or similar to that. i said thats probably different but i dont know much about it.

      and if you say illegal..its not illegal everywhere..there is a tons of countries who dont give a shit about copyright.

      i totally get that when you create something and make a living from it that its fuced up to see it everywhere for free

      my point was only if you spent much time and money on taking down things believing you get profit in return that this is probably not working..but again thats just my sense for onlyfans..if you do other kind of business that might be totally different. and again these site owners are not the pirates they spread it and maybe should be charged even higher..it wanst my point to leave them alone..was just explaining how this content gets leaked in the first place by a paying subscriber..which by denfinition is not stealing

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      • jerkygo
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2022
        • 106

        #123
        Originally posted by xxxclusive
        Ok so you run a porndude clone named jerkdude com

        It's an open secret that pirate tubes link into your hubs and provide traffic, would even say you white wash piracy traffic with these hubs.

        Stop this stupid monetary BS argument whining "mimimi pleaze don't fight my piracy *whine* *whine* the fighting is more expensive than my piracy! plz believe me I dindu nuffin! Truzt me bro" lol

        No one with more than one brain cell buys this shit.

        Others invested hard cash, time and resources to create this content. Buy stealing it and monetizing it by your own you lower the incentives for the creators to creatore more. I know many girls who gave up just because all their content is available for free next day, they are not emotionally stable enough to deal with it and it's a slap into their face when others utilize their work.

        You are simply parasites with tiny dicklets and even smaller balls.
        i guess your choosen language tells a lot about your character because you like the words criminal and illegal so much..do you know that in most western countries that the wording you choose can be criminally charged? but let me guess you dont care

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        • JesseQuinn
          feeding the wolves
          • Aug 2012
          • 6616

          #124
          Originally posted by xxxclusive
          DMCA takedown services are shit as they just collect links and send DMCA emails (I do that better by my own with scripts), but don't enforce anything if pirates don't comply.
          same with me, I have a template for DMCAs that I thankfully don't use too frequently, I do recall that many moons ago removeyourcontent (RIP) helped me out, along with a gfy'er I didn't really know but got in touch with through RYC, in getting an infringing site removed from the host and ad account terminated, all in a matter of days. the SERP stuff I did myself

          my then-new site got killed in goog back when that ish mattered cuz someone copied everything on a subdomain of their more established site. all my blog posts and pages, all my pics, pretending to be me. even made a fake yahoo messenger acct soliciting show payments (that's how long ago this was, had really only gotten started in the biz venturing out solo)

          wasn't just stealing from me, but also well-meaning potential clients meaning to pay me and getting scammed. talk about a huge ding in the reputation as solid/trustworthy I was tryna build

          spent a couple weeks wanting to kill somebody and then reached out and the whole thing was over in a matter of days. in that instance a DMCA co made all the difference


          Originally posted by xxxclusive
          Contacted Fattorosi etc some time ago and their prices are insane, so no US lawyers pls
          yikes

          so another route. def most DMCA co's are shit. everyone is in agreement on that. I've never worked with them personally but have heard from others that takedownpiracy are on the good side. worth a look, all I'm suggesting

          believe me, I get your frustration. again, good luck with this
          throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

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          • myleene
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2013
            • 906

            #125
            Rapidgator?

            They always do mine if send to:
            [email protected]

            If that doesn't work, email your DMCAs to them and Cc these:
            [email protected]
            [email protected]

            If you have 3 legit DMCAs, follow #2 here:
            https://www.mastercard.com/us/en/ant...cy-policy.html
            (*) And email it to the same 3 above.

            It is tedious, but they'll investigate and will get your content taken down.

            I did that a few times with them... They always take down my content.

            Never missed one again.

            They even banned some users after I escalated with Mastercard.

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            • myleene
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2013
              • 906

              #126
              Originally posted by xxxclusive
              That's why I call out every content owner, get your fucking asses up and do smth just for sake of doing smth, it works as it annoys pirates if they have to upload the same files over and over again. They do business and the goal is to make their business harder and lower their profit margin.
              100%.

              I'm at +25k DMCAs both on Google and Bing and probably +50k DMCAs total (if sites take down, I don't send DMCAs to search engines).

              I always escalate to the host, ad network, payment processor and now Ofcom or Arcom depending on where sites are located.

              There are so few studios that protect their content... It's ridiculous.

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              • myleene
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2013
                • 906

                #127
                Originally posted by jerkygo
                my point was only if you spent much time and money on taking down things believing you get profit in return that this is probably not working..but again thats just my sense for onlyfans..if you do other kind of business that might be totally different. and again these site owners are not the pirates they spread it and maybe should be charged even higher..it wanst my point to leave them alone..was just explaining how this content gets leaked in the first place by a paying subscriber..which by denfinition is not stealing
                I've never seen a legit customer upload content massively elsewhere.

                It's always organized groups leaking stuff. Why would a legit customer take hours to upload 100s of videos he paid for on a tube?

                1-2 videos... It could maybe be a customer... An entire site? Never.

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                • JesseQuinn
                  feeding the wolves
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 6616

                  #128
                  Originally posted by myleene
                  ...
                  Myleene wins this thread
                  throwing molotav cocktails at the precinct

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                  • jerkygo
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2022
                    • 106

                    #129
                    Originally posted by myleene
                    I've never seen a legit customer upload content massively elsewhere.

                    It's always organized groups leaking stuff. Why would a legit customer take hours to upload 100s of videos he paid for on a tube?

                    1-2 videos... It could maybe be a customer... An entire site? Never.
                    as i said it depends on what we are talking about..do we talk about onlyfans leaks? do you know that there are forums with millions of members who leak content everyday for which they paid? if you talk about siterip sites i guess you are 100% right..but in the onlyfans space and where these site owners get the videos from its mostly from these forums where in fact subscribers leak these contents..
                    in this space there is not need for 1 massive upload because thousands of ppl upload everyday..i mean its all in public i dont spill any secrets
                    and no they dont only leak the subscription stuff they also leak private stuff they paid for in dms where they spent shit tons of money...ppv etc.

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                    • myleene
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 906

                      #130
                      Originally posted by jerkygo
                      as i said it depends on what we are talking about..do we talk about onlyfans leaks? do you know that there are forums with millions of members who leak content everyday for which they paid? if you talk about siterip sites i guess you are 100% right..but in the onlyfans space and where these site owners get the videos from its mostly from these forums where in fact subscribers leak these contents..
                      in this space there is not need for 1 massive upload because thousands of ppl upload everyday..i mean its all in public i dont spill any secrets
                      and no they dont only leak the subscription stuff they also leak private stuff they paid for in dms where they spent shit tons of money...ppv etc.
                      I own paysites. My reply was related to these.

                      I know about forums, telegram groups, discords and private groups sharing OnlyFans, cam videos and similar. Usually... People that share are "incentivized" to do so by getting access to other content, karma points, access to more "private access" and the like. They even group together to purchase "1 membership", so that it can be leaked for everybody else.

                      They are totally unethical and disgusting. Some of them even have "very private" channels in which they share CSAM and other illegal stuff.

                      Ofcom, Arcom and new laws on porn in the US totally miss the target with their new laws.

                      They should be actively fighting these sites.


                      I reported 5 such sites to Arcom, Ofcom, Mastercard and Interpol 5-6 months ago.

                      I shared them all the info. 100's of videos that were 100% CSAM. I even had details on the owners of a few of them.

                      Nothing happened yet...

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                      • jerkygo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2022
                        • 106

                        #131
                        Originally posted by myleene
                        I own paysites. My reply was related to these.

                        I know about forums, telegram groups, discords and private groups sharing OnlyFans, cam videos and similar. Usually... People that share are "incentivized" to do so by getting access to other content, karma points, access to more "private access" and the like. They even group together to purchase "1 membership", so that it can be leaked for everybody else.

                        They are totally unethical and disgusting. Some of them even have "very private" channels in which they share CSAM and other illegal stuff.

                        Ofcom, Arcom and new laws on porn in the US totally miss the target with their new laws.

                        They should be actively fighting these sites.


                        I reported 5 such sites to Arcom, Ofcom, Mastercard and Interpol 5-6 months ago.

                        I shared them all the info. 100's of videos that were 100% CSAM. I even had details on the owners of a few of them.

                        Nothing happened yet...
                        thats crazy luckily ive never came across such sites or groups sharing such things
                        but i think csam is anyway a very under discussed topic in mainstream
                        you hear a lot whats going on here and there but i personally as far as i know never saw anywhere on any site csam content..but what i noticed on mayor porn tubes all of a sudden there are pretty young looking couples all over..i guess not unerage but pretty young..which i didnt notice before

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                        • xxxclusive
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 785

                          #132
                          Originally posted by jerkygo
                          first of all is there any need for insulting?
                          do you talk in real life lie that with ppl whos opinions you dont like?
                          Yes, insulted is only the one who feels insulted

                          Originally posted by jerkygo

                          my point was only if you spent much time and money on taking down things believing you get profit in return that this is probably not working..but again thats just my sense for onlyfans..
                          It's about 4 hrs per quarter and fully worth it, you feel empowered doing smth instead of just being a victim and the biggest part stays down. google my site name and crawl the links in your hub to find the sources. Search site name, hit my link exctractor plugin, c&p links into DMCA, click send, Voila that's it. Wonder where the myth comes from it would be much effort, it's jokingly easy once you have the process and some tools. (get the linkgrabber plugin for chrome)

                          Could even outsource it to an VA, but it's more satisfying doing it by my own.

                          Originally posted by jerkygo
                          i guess your choosen language tells a lot about your character because you like the words criminal and illegal so much..do you know that in most western countries that the wording you choose can be criminally charged? but let me guess you dont care
                          Don't cry

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                          • xxxclusive
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 785

                            #133
                            Originally posted by myleene
                            Rapidgator?

                            They always do mine if send to:
                            [email protected]

                            If that doesn't work, email your DMCAs to them and Cc these:
                            [email protected]
                            [email protected]

                            If you have 3 legit DMCAs, follow #2 here:
                            https://www.mastercard.com/us/en/ant...cy-policy.html
                            (*) And email it to the same 3 above.

                            It is tedious, but they'll investigate and will get your content taken down.

                            I did that a few times with them... They always take down my content.

                            Never missed one again.

                            They even banned some users after I escalated with Mastercard.
                            Thx I exactly did that with MC, filed that whole paperwork and they confirmed they work on it, but that was 6 month ago. My patience is over and therefore look for lawyer.

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                            • xxxclusive
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 785

                              #134
                              Originally posted by JesseQuinn
                              same with me, I have a template for DMCAs that I thankfully don't use too frequently, I do recall that many moons ago removeyourcontent (RIP) helped me out, along with a gfy'er I didn't really know but got in touch with through RYC, in getting an infringing site removed from the host and ad account terminated, all in a matter of days. the SERP stuff I did myself

                              my then-new site got killed in goog back when that ish mattered cuz someone copied everything on a subdomain of their more established site. all my blog posts and pages, all my pics, pretending to be me. even made a fake yahoo messenger acct soliciting show payments (that's how long ago this was, had really only gotten started in the biz venturing out solo)

                              wasn't just stealing from me, but also well-meaning potential clients meaning to pay me and getting scammed. talk about a huge ding in the reputation as solid/trustworthy I was tryna build

                              spent a couple weeks wanting to kill somebody and then reached out and the whole thing was over in a matter of days. in that instance a DMCA co made all the difference


                              yikes

                              so another route. def most DMCA co's are shit. everyone is in agreement on that. I've never worked with them personally but have heard from others that takedownpiracy are on the good side. worth a look, all I'm suggesting

                              believe me, I get your frustration. again, good luck with this
                              The first DMCA service I used years ago managed to remove only 100 links within a month, total rip off but they refunded me as I threatened them with a lawyer. So there are also lot's of culprits who promise much but do almost nothing.

                              2nd one was a bit better but still not worth.

                              Now xtakedowns seems good as it's used by big ones like VMG and there are such AI enhanced takedowns which I havent tested yet as they likely also takedown my promo clips on tubes.

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                              • xxxclusive
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 785

                                #135
                                Originally posted by myleene
                                100%.

                                I'm at +25k DMCAs both on Google and Bing and probably +50k DMCAs total (if sites take down, I don't send DMCAs to search engines).

                                I always escalate to the host, ad network, payment processor and now Ofcom or Arcom depending on where sites are located.

                                There are so few studios that protect their content... It's ridiculous.
                                That's the way and if everyone would do this piracy would be much less lucrative, but as almost no one does it the piracy show goes on unhinged.

                                I get almost every full scene from big sites within 5 minutes, no one seems to care.

                                Do you also have a solution for torrents?

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