Ouch! looks like the ride is over for Lord obama and his out of control spending

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  • BFT3K
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    • Dec 2005
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    #101
    Thanks Arnox!

    Originally posted by Arnox

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    • slapass
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      • Nov 2002
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      #102
      Originally posted by 12clicks
      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=8990687
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      protect his rank and file from fallout back home?
      here's a novel idea..............do what the people want, then you won't need protection from them.
      Old people (like you) do not like change and old people vote. thus the problem. Bush had the same problem.

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      • GAMEFINEST
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        • Nov 2006
        • 14470

        #103
        Healthcare is getting fucking expensive...
        Compound interest.

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        • baddog
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          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #104
          Originally posted by Sausage
          Put healthcare in the hands of government and you at least can hold them accountable. It becomes an election issue, and they do something about it.

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          • _Richard_
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            #105
            Originally posted by 12clicks
            please son, the adults a speaking here and you're obviously late for school.
            the deficit as Bush left office was slightly under 1 trillion dollars. obama's projected deficit (as stated by obama and the CBO) will be 9 trillion.

            the cash for clunkers program (another obama boondogle) cost 3 billion or under $10.00 per American.

            also, anyone who gets sick or is hurt in america can walk into any hospital in america and get treatment.

            now run along child, this board really doesn't need another idiot with fake facts.
            so when the paid professionals say that a real fear for a lot of Americans is going bankrupt due to medical costs, they are lying?

            I'm begging you to do the research yourself in regards to the Socialized Medicine. That line of 'anyone can walk into a hospital' is one of the very reasons your current system is obsolete. You can't budget for costs that you can't predict, and leaving millions uninsured with however many more millions in aliens, you are spending a LOT more than what you should be

            it's good business sense. i'm having a hard time figuring out why the republicans aren't getting that

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            • TheDoc
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              • Jul 2001
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              #106
              Originally posted by The Demon
              denial+lying to yourself #1. Make sure you have evidence to back up your assertion that my points have been shut down, so you don't sound like an utter tool.

              denial+lying to yourself #2. Can there be any doubt as to why you're always the subject of ridicule and generally considered the forum clown?

              You must be used to getting humiliated on forums and in real life.

              Here we go again. yes, I have been humiliated by a nobody... of all likes, a nobody that nobody is even paying attention to, which hasn't actually said shit... other than 'liberal and leftist' used as an attack weapon..

              I'm waiting for you to prove me wrong... Until then, shut your cock holster.
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              • The Demon
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                #107
                Originally posted by slapass
                Old people (like you) do not like change and old people vote. thus the problem. Bush had the same problem.
                Yea that's a hilarious excuse. Because change is necessarily good or progressive. At least the "old" people had a sense of morals and common sense, i'll take them over this new generation of morons any day. The crumbling of society is a realistic thing and is happening with young people getting dumber and dumber.
                Greed is Good

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                • The Demon
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                  Here we go again. yes, I have been humiliated by a nobody... of all likes, a nobody that nobody is even paying attention to, which hasn't actually said shit... other than 'liberal and leftist' used as an attack weapon..
                  Ah yes, a nobody. A nobody who is superior to you in every facet of life. Owned

                  I'm waiting for you to prove me wrong... Until then, shut your cock holster.
                  You haven't said anything right, nor anything that indicates any type of intelligence on your part. Keep embarrassing yourself
                  Greed is Good

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                  • TheDoc
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by The Demon
                    Ah yes, a nobody. A nobody who is superior to you in every facet of life. Owned



                    You haven't said anything right, nor anything that indicates any type of intelligence on your part. Keep embarrassing yourself

                    Again, you still haven't proven me wrong.. this is like the 6th time you have posted stupid shit like this.

                    You clearly.... clearly, have nothing to actually attack with.

                    But please... keep posting.
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                    • The Demon
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                      Again, you still haven't proven me wrong.. this is like the 6th time you have posted stupid shit like this.

                      You clearly.... clearly, have nothing to actually attack with.

                      But please... keep posting.

                      Poor guy, too stupid to realize he's embarrassing yourself. I wonder if he understands that to prove him wrong, he has to say something "right". Oh well, definitely the joke of the forum
                      Greed is Good

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                      • TheDoc
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                        #111
                        Originally posted by The Demon
                        Poor guy, too stupid to realize he's embarrassing yourself. I wonder if he understands that to prove him wrong, he has to say something "right". Oh well, definitely the joke of the forum
                        Whahhattt?

                        To prove me wrong, I have to say something right?

                        Wow... brilliant!

                        7 posts of spew and nothing new.
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                        • directfiesta
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                          #112
                          Originally posted by The Demon
                          Finally, an intelligent person on GFY. Bush's deficit when he left was what, around 5 million dollars? After 10 months in office, Obama is at 1.42 trillion with more than 9 million projected. Cash for clunkers was retarded in the sense of artificial growth while increasing the money supply.
                          lol.... what an idiot ....

                          still need 20$ bucks in Epass ?? big transaction !
                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                          • The Demon
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                            #113
                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                            Whahhattt?

                            To prove me wrong, I have to say something right?

                            Wow... brilliant!

                            7 posts of spew and nothing new.
                            ROFL look at this idiot, he can't follow simple common sense.
                            Greed is Good

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                            • The Demon
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                              #114
                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                              lol.... what an idiot ....

                              still need 20$ bucks in Epass ?? big transaction !

                              ROFL.. You're about 12 hours late with the typo, tool.
                              Greed is Good

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                              • TheDoc
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                                #115
                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                ROFL look at this idiot, he can't follow simple common sense.
                                Looking gr-eight with this post too... more please.
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                                • slapass
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                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by The Demon
                                  Yea that's a hilarious excuse. Because change is necessarily good or progressive. At least the "old" people had a sense of morals and common sense, i'll take them over this new generation of morons any day. The crumbling of society is a realistic thing and is happening with young people getting dumber and dumber.
                                  The current generation is the most literate generation ever thanks to the internet and texting.

                                  You cannot travel through an American city and not see that it has improved in the last 20 years. Same with most of the world. Society is not crumbling. You are getting narrow minded. Every metric is showing the world getting better, you just choose to ignore that.

                                  Watch old movies or old TV. You would not have wanted to lived then. So why glorify that time?

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                                  • The Demon
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                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                                    Looking gr-eight with this post too... more please.
                                    I believe you're in the double digit post of self pwnage
                                    Greed is Good

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                                    • BFT3K
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                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by The Demon
                                      ROFL look at this idiot, he can't follow simple common sense.
                                      Originally posted by Arnox
                                      Yeah, al-righty then!

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                                      • The Demon
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                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by slapass
                                        The current generation is the most literate generation ever thanks to the internet and texting.
                                        The most literate generation? Where did you get this nonsense? Thanks to the internet and texting? Yes, you've just proven that this generation is more braindead thanks to the internet and texting. Having the internet doesn't making you "literate".

                                        You cannot travel through an American city and not see that it has improved in the last 20 years. Same with most of the world. Society is not crumbling. You are getting narrow minded. Every metric is showing the world getting better, you just choose to ignore that.

                                        Watch old movies or old TV. You would not have wanted to lived then. So why glorify that time?
                                        You're not providing ANY facts whatsoever. Technology has improved as a natural progression but as a society we have regressed.
                                        Greed is Good

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                                        • TheDoc
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                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                          I believe you're in the double digit post of self pwnage
                                          And again... boring now and really lame.

                                          But I will ask again, prove whatever I said wrong.... it's that simple or keep posting and showing gfy that you have nothing to say, other than typical spew.
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                                          • The Demon
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                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                            And again... boring now and really lame.

                                            But I will ask again, prove whatever I said wrong.... it's that simple or keep posting and showing gfy that you have nothing to say, other than typical spew.
                                            Well, you're definitely showing GFY how stupid you are by repeating your nonsense. "Prove I'm wrong when I haven't said anything of substance!!" ROFL what a moron this kid is.
                                            Greed is Good

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                                            • directfiesta
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                                              #122
                                              If there were election in California tomorrow, and Arnold ran, he would be beaten ,,,

                                              Should I conclude that it would be an " Obama endorsement " ...
                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                              • The Demon
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                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                If there were election in California tomorrow, and Arnold ran, he would be beaten ,,,

                                                Should I conclude that it would be an " Obama endorsement " ...
                                                Just like in NJ and Virginia? ROFL
                                                Greed is Good

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                                                • TheDoc
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                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by The Demon
                                                  Well, you're definitely showing GFY how stupid you are by repeating your nonsense. "Prove I'm wrong when I haven't said anything of substance!!" ROFL what a moron this kid is.
                                                  You said I was wrong.. so clearly I said something that needed to be proven wrong.

                                                  Or again, like the other 10 posts........

                                                  You have nothing to actually say, you have no ammo to take me down with, you don't even know how to argue, you simply spew bullshit as an attack... which is freak'in hilarious.

                                                  I'm cool with that though, please... keep posting.
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                                                  • directfiesta
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                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                                    1. I'm not really in this business. I promote dating sites as income to pay for law school.
                                                    2. It's easy to be conservative and in this business. For instance, I think porn is absolutely disgusting, but also a first amendment right which I support.

                                                    1. I'm not really in this business. I promote dating sites as income to pay for law school.


                                                    in other words, you will be at best an " ambulance chaser " , at best ....

                                                    2. It's easy to be conservative and in this business. For instance, I think porn is absolutely disgusting, but also a first amendment right which I support.

                                                    translation: I am broke, cannot pay for porn, not smart enough to find it for free, so I hang here to see a few pics everyday ...

                                                    PS: if you have 2.00 today in Epass, I would gladly give you 1.75 tomorrow in Paypal ....
                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                    • Sausage
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                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      Oh my mistake, I should have said put healthcare in the hands of a working government system and at least you can hold them accountable at the ballot box.

                                                      I forgot your system was so corrupt and rotten to the core that it probably wouldn't work. Though even the illusion of accountability is better than nothing right ;) You can't do anything now .. you are powerless, utterly incapable of making any difference in the area of health reform and down deep you know it.

                                                      At least my government fears what I can do with my vote. Feel free to laugh that one off too btw
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                                                      • The Demon
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                        You said I was wrong.. so clearly I said something that needed to be proven wrong.

                                                        Or again, like the other 10 posts........

                                                        You have nothing to actually say, you have no ammo to take me down with, you don't even know how to argue, you simply spew bullshit as an attack... which is freak'in hilarious.

                                                        I'm cool with that though, please... keep posting.

                                                        I don't need ammo to take you down with. All I have to do is use logic to respond to your stupidity and embarrass you on a continuous basis, only to watch you sit there lying to yourself and making yourself look dumber.
                                                        Greed is Good

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                                                        • The Demon
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                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by directfiesta

                                                          1. I'm not really in this business. I promote dating sites as income to pay for law school.


                                                          in other words, you will be at best an " ambulance chaser " , at best ....

                                                          2. It's easy to be conservative and in this business. For instance, I think porn is absolutely disgusting, but also a first amendment right which I support.

                                                          translation: I am broke, cannot pay for porn, not smart enough to find it for free, so I hang here to see a few pics everyday ...

                                                          PS: if you have 2.00 today in Epass, I would gladly give you 1.75 tomorrow in Paypal ....

                                                          AHAHA thanks for proving that the only qualification for the porn business is a pulse. Not sure if anything dumber has been posted today. Way to go half wit
                                                          Greed is Good

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                                                          • marketsmart
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                                                            #129
                                                            all i can say is that i never realized so many homosexuals posted on gfy...

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                                                            • TheDoc
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                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by The Demon
                                                              I don't need ammo to take you down with. All I have to do is use logic to respond to your stupidity and embarrass you on a continuous basis, only to watch you sit there lying to yourself and making yourself look dumber.
                                                              You haven't actually responded with anything.. you're just say things like this quote, over and over.

                                                              It's just spew... I'm waiting to be embarrassed, please do it.. whatever, prove me wrong, show me up, ring my bell.. take down the big man with your, logic.

                                                              I'm waiting..
                                                              Last edited by TheDoc; 11-04-2009, 06:56 PM.
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                                                              • habs4life
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                                                                #131
                                                                lmao funny shit
                                                                Mess with the best die like the rest!


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                                                                • Sly
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                                                                  • Sep 2004
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                                                                  #132
                                                                  I read the thread title and took a mental note of who would be posting in the thread.

                                                                  Then I skimmed the thread.

                                                                  I was right.
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                                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                                                    I read the thread title and took a mental note of who would be posting in the thread.

                                                                    Then I skimmed the thread.

                                                                    I was right.
                                                                    My bot is stuck on auto post...
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                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by slapass
                                                                      The current generation is the most literate generation ever thanks to the internet and texting.
                                                                      ha ha ha. Fucking kids in the wagon trains crossing the great American prairies in the 1800's were a lot more literate than the youth of today.

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                                                                      • TheDoc
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        Dang, he went on and on... 9 o'clock though, mom must have put her foot down. I hope the dude got his homework done.
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                                                                        • slapass
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                          Having the internet doesn't making you "literate".
                                                                          Actually yes it does.



                                                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                          You're not providing ANY facts whatsoever. Technology has improved as a natural progression but as a society we have regressed.
                                                                          Not sure why you think this. Crime is down. Learning is up. Birth rate is down. Quality of life is a lot higher as far as I can tell in that houses are bigger, tv's etc. People have more shit.

                                                                          Have you talked to people who were alive in the 70's? Did you see the 80's? They were not wonderful open times.

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                                                                          • slapass
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                            ha ha ha. Fucking kids in the wagon trains crossing the great American prairies in the 1800's were a lot more literate than the youth of today.
                                                                            Do you really believe that? Makes a nice sound bite but you know that is not true right?

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                                                                            • irbobo
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              Fuck americans really don't understand that it COSTS MORE for your non universal healthcare. With universal healthcare there is no need for expensive actuaries to try and screw you out of your insurance.

                                                                              Oh well.. you just make Canada look that much better.

                                                                              What you guys need is another party. Either/Or situations aren't your friend in politics.

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                                                                              • baddog
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                                                                                • Apr 2001
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                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                Do you really believe that? Makes a nice sound bite but you know that is not true right?
                                                                                http://education-portal.com/articles...n_Society.html

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                                                                                • The Demon
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                  Actually yes it does.
                                                                                  Well it was fun embarrassing The Doc. I think he reached the peak of his stupidity so moving on.. So no, no it doesn't. Our parents generation which didn't have the internet and relied on books is a hell of a lot more literate and intelligent than our generation. The new generation of teenagers who spend their lives on social networks is pretty much the dumbest of the 20th century. It's safe to say after we reached our peak in the 50s and 60s, it's been going to shit ever since.




                                                                                  Not sure why you think this. Crime is down. Learning is up. Birth rate is down. Quality of life is a lot higher as far as I can tell in that houses are bigger, tv's etc. People have more shit.
                                                                                  Crime is certainly not down, learning is certainly not up, birth rate is certainly not down, where are you getting this? And what you're talking about is inflated wealth, NOT real wealth, and technological improvement which is a logical progression. HARDLY an argument for our society being better.

                                                                                  Have you talked to people who were alive in the 70's? Did you see the 80's? They were not wonderful open times.
                                                                                  Absolutely, and they think society has gone to shit. They loved their 70s and 80s. They loved the intellectual stimulation through books, spending days outside doing random activities. Not like today where it's social networks and obesity.
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                                                                                  • The Demon
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                                                                                    #141

                                                                                    Owned. Many people have been preaching the downfall of American society since the 90s. I firmly believe it now.
                                                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                                                    • TheDoc
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                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                      The mass stimulus plans, were started under Bush. Dumb ass..


                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                      This has already been posted an proven wrong here on GFY, actually several times.. with the time lines, dates they were signed, and everything... huge ass chart. Every single bill, and even how the tarp money was used, dates, banks, everything... very detailed..
                                                                                      Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                      Ah gotta love the left. Makes shit up without an iota of evidence.


                                                                                      Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                      Sorry, stimulus programs were Obama's thing. Sorry, Obama has already managed to fuck up more in less than a year than Bush did at least in his 1st term. Give him another year and he'll catch up with Bush.
                                                                                      Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                      Ah yes blame it on Bush. I bet it was Bush's fault for the mass stimulus plans as well as a ridiculous increase of the money supply? Gotta love the liberals. It's not Obama's fault if he fails it's Bush's. However, if Obama succeeds, it's because he's awesome!

                                                                                      Obama... errr, Bush... errr Bailouts and Stimulus Plans



                                                                                      $30 billion
                                                                                      Bear Stearns 2008 JP Morgan Chase and the federal government bailed out Bear Stearns when the financial giant neared collapse. JP Morgan purchased Bear Stearns for $236 million; the Federal Reserve provided a $30 billion credit line to ensure the sale could move forward.

                                                                                      $400 billion
                                                                                      Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac 2008 On Sep. 7, 2008, Fannie and Freddie were essentially nationalized: placed under the conservatorship of the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Under the terms of the rescue, the Treasury has invested billions to cover the companies' losses. Initially, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson put a ceiling of $100 billion for investments in each company. In February, Tim Geithner raised it to $200 billion. The money was authorized by the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008.

                                                                                      $180 billion
                                                                                      American International Group (A.I.G.) 2008 On four separate occasions, the government has offered aid to AIG to keep it from collapsing, rising from an initial $85 billion credit line from the Federal Reserve to a combined $180 billion effort between the Treasury ($70 billion) and Fed ($110 billion). ($40 billion of the Treasury’s commitment is also included in the TARP total.)

                                                                                      $25 billion
                                                                                      Auto Industry 2008 In late September 2008, Congress approved a more than $630 billion spending bill, which included a measure for $25 billion in loans to the auto industry. These low-interest loans are intended to aid the industry in its push to build more fuel-efficient, environmentally-friendly vehicles. The Detroit 3 -- General Motors, Ford and Chrysler -- will be the primary beneficiaries.

                                                                                      $700 billion
                                                                                      Troubled Asset Relief Program 2008 In October 2008, Congress passed the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, which authorized the Treasury Department to spend $700 billion to combat the financial crisis. Treasury has been doling out the money via an alphabet soup of different programs. Here’s our running tally of companies getting TARP funds.

                                                                                      $280 billion
                                                                                      Citigroup 2008 Citigroup received a $25 billion investment through the TARP in October and another $20 billion in November. (That $45 billion is also included in the TARP total.) Additional aid has come in the form of government guarantees to limit losses from a $301 billion pool of toxic assets. In addition to the Treasury's $5 billion commitment, the FDIC has committed $10 billion and the Federal Reserve up to about $220 billion.

                                                                                      Bank of America 2009 Bank of America has received $45 billion through the TARP, which includes $10 billion originally meant for Merrill Lynch. (That $45 billion is also included in the TARP total.) In addition, the government has made guarantees to limit losses from a $118 billion pool of troubled assets. In addition to the Treasury's $7.5 billion commitment, the FDIC has committed $2.5 billion and the Federal Reserve up to $87.2 billion.



                                                                                      Which ones are from Obama again?



                                                                                      Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                      Well it was fun embarrassing The Doc.
                                                                                      Back to bed little one....
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                                                                                      • kane
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                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        This is an entertaining thread.

                                                                                        The reality is that the election of GOP governors in NJ and VA has very little to do with Obama and anti-democrat sentiment. In both states the exit polls showed that the majority (over 50%) of the voters in those states still hold Obama in a positive light.

                                                                                        In NJ they have the highest property taxes in the nation as well as a lot of corruption. Yes, Obama went there three times to campaign for them, but Corzine is not well liked in the state and was bound to lose to just about anyone.

                                                                                        In VA they still have as strong conservative base and he won. That is it. It doesn't mean the nation is turning republican. If it did then why did the democrat in NY win when that district has elected a republican since the civil war? Of course you could say it is because the republicans fucked it up and attacked their own candidate for not being conservative enough then she dropped out when the republicans started backing an independent who doesn't even live in the district and knows nothing about the local politics of the area. So does that mean that the republican party is still in shambles? No.

                                                                                        These are just local and state elections. Every year since 1989 the off year elections in NJ and VA have gone against the party that had won the white house in the previous year. I don't know why, it just is. It means nothing. I can say that tomorrow morning Megan Fox is going to give me a lap dance then let me tit fuck her. . . it doesn't make it so.

                                                                                        The bottom line is that most of the people in this country want health care reform. The problem is our elected officials are unable to actually deliver that. If they aren't worried about getting elected they are worried about pissing off big insurance who finance their re-election bids. The republicans have no interest in health care reform. The only reason they are even talking about it now is because the democrats are in power and are forcing the issue. If McCain had won health care would not even be mentioned.

                                                                                        My prediction is that one of the following will happen:

                                                                                        1. They will pass a health care reform bill and it will do very little to actually reform health care so we will continue as we are now which means in about 15-20 the cost of health care will be destroying the the middle class.

                                                                                        or

                                                                                        2. They will pass a big bill and it will reform health care and in some cases it will actually do good things and help a lot of people. But they will grossly underestimate the cost of it, it will get bloated, corrupt and be mismanaged and it will be enormously expensive and in 15-20 years the cost of it will be destroying the middle class in this country.

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                                                                                        • kane
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                                                                                          • Aug 2001
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                          Well it was fun embarrassing The Doc. I think he reached the peak of his stupidity so moving on.. So no, no it doesn't. Our parents generation which didn't have the internet and relied on books is a hell of a lot more literate and intelligent than our generation. The new generation of teenagers who spend their lives on social networks is pretty much the dumbest of the 20th century. It's safe to say after we reached our peak in the 50s and 60s, it's been going to shit ever since.
                                                                                          I'm not sure when we reached out peak, but I have to agree that many of the kids these days are just dumb and heavily to blame is the school system. My nephew is a junior in high school. He is in the "slow" program which means if an assignment is due on the 15th and he doesn't have it done, they give him another week to do it. He has failed about 35% of his classes and yet is still on target to graduate. When he was in 8th grade he failed every class except PE and they still graduated him. Much of the blame for that is because if they don't move them on, they don't get paid so they lower the standards and just push them through like cattle. Also heavily to blame is his mom who will do his homework for him and doesn't care if his girlfriend does his homework for him and doesn't think it is a big deal that he is 16 and can't read well enough to pass the learners permit test for driving.





                                                                                          Crime is certainly not down, learning is certainly not up, birth rate is certainly not down, where are you getting this? And what you're talking about is inflated wealth, NOT real wealth, and technological improvement which is a logical progression. HARDLY an argument for our society being better.
                                                                                          The crime rates right now are actually the lowest they have been in about 20-25 years.

                                                                                          Absolutely, and they think society has gone to shit. They loved their 70s and 80s. They loved the intellectual stimulation through books, spending days outside doing random activities. Not like today where it's social networks and obesity.
                                                                                          It used to be that if someone pissed you off you didn't talk to them anymore or you punched them in the mouth. Now you de-friend them on facebook and tell everyone you did so on twitter. It is sad.

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                                                                                          • kane
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                            • 20684

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by irbobo
                                                                                            Fuck americans really don't understand that it COSTS MORE for your non universal healthcare. With universal healthcare there is no need for expensive actuaries to try and screw you out of your insurance.

                                                                                            Oh well.. you just make Canada look that much better.

                                                                                            What you guys need is another party. Either/Or situations aren't your friend in politics.
                                                                                            We spend more money per person on health care than any other country in the world yet we have 30+million without insurance. There has to be a better way of doing things. I don't know that universal health care (meaning government controlled) is the only way, but there must be some ways to improve the system and keep it from destroying the middle class.

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                                                                                            • The Demon
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                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 7336

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=12266
                                                                                              The Mother of All Stimuli, sometime next week, 2009 - Already clocking in at over $1.34 trillion over ten years, Obama’s Trillion Dollar Debt Plan is Bushonomics on steroids. The bill is a straight forward attempt to permanently redistribute spending and power away from the private sector and toward government at the cost of trillions of dollars in tax dollars from our children.
                                                                                              The Housing Bailout II, ???, 2009 - Could the Obama Administration really come to the American people asking for more deficit spending after a $1.34 trillion stimulus and a $??? trillion TARP Bailout? Yes they can! The New York Times reports: “And the final part, which Mr. Obama is not expected to announce for days, involves spending billions of dollars more to prevent home foreclosures, for fear that the displacement and anger created by throwing people out of their homes, and putting more properties onto a glutted market, will create a psychological and financial death spiral.”
                                                                                              And the kicker.
                                                                                              At Obama's request, Bush has agreed to ask Congress for the second $350 billion of the $700 billion financial bailout.

                                                                                              The move came shortly after Bush told reporters at this final scheduled news conference Monday morning that he would request the funds only if Obama asked — and that Obama hadn’t yet asked.
                                                                                              In a letter to congressional leaders, Obama’s team say that if given the funds, he’ll push to free up credit markets to provide more loans for small businesses and car buyers, do more to address the record number of home foreclosures nationwide and seek to limit executive pay for companies that receive bailout funds.


                                                                                              The Doc, aren't you tired of getting owned?
                                                                                              Greed is Good

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                                                                                              • TheDoc
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 13827

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=12266




                                                                                                And the kicker.




                                                                                                The Doc, aren't you tired of getting owned?
                                                                                                Some great examples of using Bailout money and plans already going, into what the current president thinks they should be spent on.

                                                                                                I'm really not sure how any of these are "Obama" created, ie: his plans.


                                                                                                And Wow, so lame... Hahaha... I'm owned, some how.



                                                                                                Could you show me where I said Obama never did any bailouts or wouldn't do them?

                                                                                                Of course your stupid ass can't..


                                                                                                I clearly said...

                                                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                The mass stimulus plans, were started under Bush. Dumb ass..
                                                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                Every single bill, and even how the tarp money was used, dates, banks, everything... very detailed..
                                                                                                Your ass got smoked.... And either way... those are STILL results of the Bush agendas. You don't get to "add on" Bushes dept to Obama ~ Moron.
                                                                                                Last edited by TheDoc; 11-05-2009, 05:35 AM.
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                                                                                                • The Demon
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                  Some great examples of using Bailout money and plans already going, into what the current president thinks they should be spent on.

                                                                                                  I'm really not sure how any of these are "Obama" created, ie: his plans.


                                                                                                  And Wow, so lame... Hahaha... I'm owned, some how.



                                                                                                  Could you show me where I said Obama never did any bailouts or wouldn't do them?

                                                                                                  Of course your stupid ass can't..


                                                                                                  I clearly said...





                                                                                                  Your ass got smoked.... And either way... those are STILL results of the Bush agendas. You don't get to "add on" Bushes dept to Obama ~ Moron.


                                                                                                  AHAHAAHA what a fucking idiot this is just too funny. Want to point out where I said Obama started the stimulus plans? Go ahead ROFL. This kid is priceless.

                                                                                                  And I know i'm wasting my time trying to explain a basic concept to you but I'm enjoying talking down to a dumber, older, porn peddler.

                                                                                                  When Obama "initiates" a plan, it becomes HIS debt, not Bush's. Try and internalize that one dumbass ROFL
                                                                                                  Last edited by The Demon; 11-05-2009, 05:38 AM.
                                                                                                  Greed is Good

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                                                                                                  • TheDoc
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 13827

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                    AHAHAAHA what a fucking idiot this is just too funny. Want to point out where I said Obama started the stimulus plans? Go ahead ROFL. This kid is priceless.

                                                                                                    And I know i'm wasting my time trying to explain a basic concept to you but I'm enjoying talking down to a dumber, older, porn peddler.

                                                                                                    When Obama "initiates" a plan, it becomes HIS debt, not Bush's. Try and internalize that one dumbass ROFL

                                                                                                    Wow you suck at this.

                                                                                                    I never said Obama hasn't done bailouts.

                                                                                                    But the fact still remains, your wrong.... Obama did not put us Trillions into Debt, Bush did.
                                                                                                    ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                    It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                    • The Demon
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                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                      Wow you suck at this.

                                                                                                      I never said Obama hasn't done bailouts.

                                                                                                      But the fact still remains, your wrong.... Obama did not put us Trillions into Debt, Bush did.
                                                                                                      Wow, what an idiot. First, the world is you're. Second, when one initiates the bailouts, one buts the country into debt. Bush's debt when he left was close to 500 billion. Obama's right now is bordering 1.5 trillion and another 8 trillion when he's done. You lose, move along.
                                                                                                      Greed is Good

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