I would be very interested to know how it is that your new competitor can offer such a discounted rate. How do you justify rates from 10-15%?
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they say that their rates ar as low as 4,9%....!. -
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That is like bitching about CCB's refusal to offer ACH, and eliminate the $15 wire fee. Or actually pay you EARLY like others do before holidays, instead of making you wait until the business day after.
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ibill was able to undercut epoch and ccbill for years, then they tanked. talk to me after Zombaio has been around in adult for 4-5 years
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well, Visa takes something like 2% so Zombaio makes 2,9 points profit and the rest between 8 and 13. from that they pay their employees, backend, fraud control, airplanes etc. ;)Comment
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Our average rate at CCBill is about 11.5 to 12%. For that, I get :
- A live, human on the phone every single time I call. A US person at that.
- Instant advice from DougW, Corvette & the crew
- Fast replies to requests, instant action when fraud is suspected.
- Email and phone calls when they suspect an affiliate is being naughty.
- An attentive ear that considers new ideas
- No Velocity constraints (they let us manage our own)
- Actual, Genuine business Help and Support whenever we need it.
- Never, ever, a single late payment.
- Invites to Playboy.
I think this is how they justify the higher fees. Works for me.Comment
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Does Zombaio have any chargeback fees? CCBill doesn't.Comment
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Adult billers have been raping the industry for years because they can !!! there has been no other choice, thus the fancy parties, planes ect..... Now a new Fair company is in town, this will be interresting to see the long term results.
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So your happy to let CCbill basically own 5% of your business? if your grossing a million a year in sales your happy to pay CCBill $50k a year for some friendly guys to talk to and invites to playboy? How can you compare 5% to bitching about a $15 wire fee? Maybe if your a small money loser making $30k off his godaddy hosted domain Barefootsies..Comment
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Actually Ibill wasn't that much cheaper if at all. I believe they both charged around 15% at the time. At least that is what I was paying with ibill and what the regular rate was, I don't know what sweet deals they made with people processing 100K a day etc...
And ibill's rate had nothing to do with their collapse.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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4% of nothing is um you get the point lolComment
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Over a year with Zombaio, every wire on time and those due on Sat show up on Fridays.Comment
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Actually EPGBill in Germany offers the same rates as Zombaio, and they've been around longer....
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yes they were and yes it did
they were giving people grumbling about leaving them 10% or less as their rates, and even charging below their own costs in order to prevent volume from leaving them
and the reason they crumbled is because they ultimately ran out of $, so it did contributeComment
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I thought iBill's parent company, that they where a subsidiary of, is what took them down. Not charging 10% on processing that realistically costs them 3%.Comment
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CCBILL is bending you over and fucking you in the ass. whether you want to admit it or not..
They are charging 1995 rates..
Theres tons of mainstream processors who are 10% LESS than CCBILL, and they have live support, etc...
ccbill charges as much cause they know you trust them... jesus i need to get into billing business..LOL
For every $1million processed, their revenue is at least $100,000
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your arguments are way off. The vast majority of people with ibill were getting charged 15% just like with ccbill. And just like with ccbill if you are a really big client they will reduce your rate down to around 10%. No major difference in rates what so ever between ibill and ccbill. The biggest difference between the two companies and why one is still around and one is not was because of how they were run.
they didn't crumble because they ran out of money because they were charging too low of a rate
they went out of business mainly because they lost their ability to process visa... among several other things which isn't worth spending 20 mins reposting them all here.
If zombiao is run right they can most definetly stay in business at those rates, they just wont be able to afford their own jet and shit.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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being bought and sold a couple times over, once to a company who later realized that 90% of the transactions were adult and they didnt want to have anything to do with adult, who sold it to another company who was just looking to loot it, etc etc etc etc etc.... you cant count the number of fuckups that ibill did over the last 3-4 years they were in business. And the nail in the coffin was losing the ability to process visa.
it had absolutely nothing to do with the rate they charged, which was almost exactly the same as what ccbill was charging anyway.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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yeah ccbill has given people illusion that anyone charging under 10% cannot sustain.. of course you can.. granted adult has more fraud, etc, but STILL theres big mainstream companies that are <5%, just cause its adult and banks are harder to secure doesnt justify the +10% now does it?
honestly ccbill should go and buy owners of ibill,globill, et al a bottle of wine.. those guys have helped their business more than they can imagine..
You dont start a company charging a certain rate, then 10 years later when EVERYTHING is cheaper, you still charge the same rate.lolLast edited by xxweekxx; 10-14-2009, 03:58 PM._________________
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sure, there were many reasons ibill went under, money was the biggest, after the original owners sold ibill to the new owners, the road to ruin began, and at some point they were offering and charging their largest clients crazy fees to convince them not to jump ship, wont argue with you there
im just saying everyone is charging 10%+ epoch, verotel, all the other processors.
i want to give it some time before i decide about zombaio, lets say 2 years, maybe more, ive seen some really bad posts about themComment
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With each year zombaio is around it will justify 1% to me. Since they have lasted a year I am willing to add them as a backup biller. With time will come trust and more money with them.Comment
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Our History
The company started in Basingstoke, United Kingdom in 2003 as an acquirer for iGaming Networks. A Swedish division was established in 2005. During the fall 2006 the adoption of an unexpected approval of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, criminalizing the collection of payments (Cross-border) for non US based online gambling networks.
With a reliable and scalable transaction platform we decided to establish in the adult entertainment industry, which we did and opened an US division in 2007 (Zombaio). The brand and product Zombaio.com was released 3rd of October 2007 with a large advertising campaign.
Originally, our two founders come from RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland) where they were responsible for structuring the pay platform that today is one of the world's 5 largest platforms. Naturally, we have full redundancy in the systems, whose sites are located in Stockholm (Sweden), Frankfurt (Germany) and Mountain View (CA, USA).
Both the company and the platform are Visa and MasterCard PCI DSS certified by TrustWave.
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Our aim is to continue to provide services that are firmly established in the market based on the latest technology. Zombaio takes an offencive role in the market offering daily payouts, anti fraud insurance and marketable processing prices.
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Does CCBill charge more than others? Actually, no - there are a few out there who charge a bit more. Am I paying too much? MAYBE, but as Scott said, I feel pretty confident that they won't be closing up shop any time soon.
Of course everyone should shop around for processors, I'm not saying not to. What I am saying is that you do not normally want to suddenly switch processors just because someone else is cheaper. If you count on weekly payouts and decide to switch companies, you run the risk of interrupting your cash flow.
The best possible thing to do is to sign-up for multiple processors. This way should anything happen to your main processor you can switch in a hurry.Comment
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