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  • PornMD
    Mainstream Businessman
    • Jan 2007
    • 9291

    #101
    LiveCams.com at $500k or LiveCams.net for $10k or under? Rick should snap it up and sell it with the .com.
    Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.

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    • magpan

      #102
      Nice domain, good luck with the sale. If it doesn't happen, a good white-label would certainly bring in some great revenues.

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      • cam_girls
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2009
        • 2968

        #103
        I'm not the one bringing up Camgirls. Ask me why affiliates would choose camgirls over streamate and I'll give my opinion. Don't want to hear it you have plenty of options. You have this idea it's ok to bash people and they aren't supposed to respond.

        We're not so different Will123. You ask for a rich website owner to give you half for your experience in being an affiliate with no money for 10 years. I ask for a rich cam company to go halves in building Camgirls.com! How's your half million dollar budget going? Or did nobody think you were worth the effort?

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        • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
          So Fucking Banned
          • Aug 2009
          • 3163

          #104
          Originally posted by cam_girls
          "live cams" and "cam girls" have similar search frequencies, so assuming it gets 200 type ins a day like camgirls.com, conversion is about 1:300

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          • Forest
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2001
            • 9135

            #105
            Originally posted by cam_girls
            Uh ok, how about.... mine is better than yours... stick it up your ass.... mind your own business.... you ain't seen nothing yet.... fuck off and die
            heard of them too?
            im sorry i retract any previous statements

            you are obviously a very talented parrot

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            • cam_girls
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 2968

              #106
              thanks Will123, you stirred up the Sandmen again.

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              • will76
                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                • May 2003
                • 18037

                #107
                Originally posted by cam_girls
                I'm not the one bringing up Camgirls. Ask me why affiliates would choose camgirls over streamate and I'll give my opinion. Don't want to hear it you have plenty of options. You have this idea it's ok to bash people and they aren't supposed to respond.

                We're not so different Will123. You ask for a rich website owner to give you half for your experience in being an affiliate with no money for 10 years. I ask for a rich cam company to go halves in building Camgirls.com! How's your half million dollar budget going? Or did nobody think you were worth the effort?
                Ok you stumped me, I can't even understand what you are saying so there is no way I can reply except to the part that you think " we are not so different".

                You and me, you couldn't find two totally different people in just about every aspect.
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                • cam_girls
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2968

                  #108
                  Well slamming me to prove your expertize is wearing thin, good luck getting that million dollar budget.

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                  • cam_girls
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2968

                    #109
                    Wait I found another post by Will123.

                    Originally posted by will76
                    Dear GFY,

                    I work hard on my crap site for 10 years and I have no money.
                    Please give me $1 million budget and I make camgirl website good.

                    I thought I was ambitious but your mind is pure will!
                    Reach for the rainbow!

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                    • datatank
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 5471

                      #110
                      Originally posted by area51
                      What is funny about thi ?

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                      • javok
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 710

                        #111
                        Originally posted by jay23
                        I was talking about this with a client of mine who has the $$. His question was cant we buy some other domain that is close for 5K and spend 495K in marketing and bring that domain to the same level ?

                        For example I own 247xxx.com , i doubt its worth even 100 bucks but if i spend 500k in branding can that domain get to the same level as this
                        No you can't.
                        dickrate.com

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                        • lazycash
                          Troll Patrol
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 15214

                          #112
                          Originally posted by cam_girls
                          I'm not the one bringing up Camgirls. Ask me why affiliates would choose camgirls over streamate and I'll give my opinion.
                          Ok, go ahead and give me your opinion.
                          "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                          Its crazy..."

                          VenusBlogger

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                          • lazycash
                            Troll Patrol
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 15214

                            #113
                            Originally posted by javok
                            No you can't.
                            I disagree.
                            "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                            Its crazy..."

                            VenusBlogger

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                            • montel
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 2606

                              #114
                              how much traffic does this domain get?
                              Barefootsies

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                              • montel
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 2606

                                #115
                                livejasmin.com seemed to manage without a 500k domain
                                Barefootsies

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                                • Jdoughs
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 5794

                                  #116
                                  Exactly as the last few posts were saying.

                                  Show me a premium site that is top of its niche and actually happens to be built on the 'best possible domain name'.

                                  I can't think of a single one off hand.
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                                  • Domain Diva
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Oct 2007
                                    • 10180

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                    Exactly as the last few posts were saying.

                                    Show me a premium site that is top of its niche and actually happens to be built on the 'best possible domain name'.

                                    I can't think of a single one off hand.
                                    Webcams.com ....Cams.com


                                    Although I do agree with you a premium name is not always needed as ifriends /livejasmin and others have shown.

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                                    • Jdoughs
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 5794

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by CyberClaire
                                      Webcams.com ....Cams.com


                                      Although I do agree with you a premium name is not always needed as ifriends /livejasmin and others have shown.
                                      Good call, I was running search terms through my head like bigcocks, bigtits, teenpussy and stuff like that and the 'premiere' site for those niches dont have their 'perfect domains'.

                                      Definitely webcams and cams.
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                                      • comeplay
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 1435

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                        Exactly as the last few posts were saying.

                                        Show me a premium site that is top of its niche and actually happens to be built on the 'best possible domain name'.

                                        I can't think of a single one off hand.
                                        Sex.com adult.com
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                                        • cam_girls
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2009
                                          • 2968

                                          #120
                                          I don't think Cams.com and Webcams.com will last much longer, they have hundreds of underage surfers landing on porn sites every day. Mainstream cam domains using their search popularity to run camgirl sites because they can charge for that.

                                          Business.com sold for $345 million
                                          CreditCards.com sold for $275 million

                                          Big camgirl sites make the annual revenue of Business.com every 2 weeks.

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                                          • lazycash
                                            Troll Patrol
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 15214

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by cam_girls
                                            Big camgirl sites make the annual revenue of Business.com every 2 weeks.
                                            So far off, show us your math again.
                                            "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                            Its crazy..."

                                            VenusBlogger

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                                            • lazycash
                                              Troll Patrol
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 15214

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by cam_girls
                                              I don't think Cams.com and Webcams.com will last much longer, they have hundreds of underage surfers landing on porn sites every day.
                                              They will end up landing on your site also, and those two cam programs aren't going anywhere.
                                              "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                              Its crazy..."

                                              VenusBlogger

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                                              • Domain Diva
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Oct 2007
                                                • 10180

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by cam_girls
                                                I don't think Cams.com and Webcams.com will last much longer,
                                                Wow ! you seem to have your finger on the pulse ....I have MrWebcams.com for sale ...I think it would really suit you ? let me know if interested.....maybe use it as your nick ?

                                                Also could you check the cams for sale link I have in sig... any advice if Im sitting on a ton of money (like millions ? ) with those cam domains.....because listening to your comments gives me hope that i am .


                                                thanks in advance ...

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                                                • cam_girls
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2009
                                                  • 2968

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by lazycash
                                                  So far off, show us your math again.
                                                  By memory Business.com was making $15M per year.
                                                  Cams.com declared over double that, and LiveJasmin and other AWE sites are nearly 10 times larger than Cams.com.


                                                  They will end up landing on your site also
                                                  not by accident


                                                  Claire your older list had a couple good ones did you sell some, remember one starting with S.
                                                  BlueCams.com is very good IMO, subtle adult reference, classy name.

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                                                  • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Aug 2009
                                                    • 3163

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by CyberClaire
                                                    Wow ! you seem to have your finger on the pulse ....I have MrWebcams.com for sale ...I think it would really suit you ? let me know if interested.....maybe use it as your nick ?

                                                    Also could you check the cams for sale link I have in sig... any advice if Im sitting on a ton of money (like millions ? ) with those cam domains.....because listening to your comments gives me hope that i am .


                                                    thanks in advance ...
                                                    camgirls and you would make the perfect fucking couple

                                                    you're both dumber than a bag of bricks

                                                    the two of your brains IQ's put together = half of a normal human brain IQ

                                                    FUCKING MORONS

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                                                    • Domain Diva
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2007
                                                      • 10180

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by cam_girls

                                                      Claire your older list had a couple good ones did you sell some, remember one starting with S.
                                                      BlueCams.com is very good IMO, subtle adult reference, classy name.

                                                      Actually BlueCams is my oldest and favorite, just waiting for the right offer....

                                                      Starting with S ummmmmmmm the best i have with a S is in my view is SecretShows would that be it ? ( if so thats my second oldest and favorite ! ) if its not that i will have to think hard lol....


                                                      Thanks for the input

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                                                      • Domain Diva
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Oct 2007
                                                        • 10180

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by area51
                                                        camgirls and you would make the perfect fucking couple

                                                        you're both dumber than a bag of bricks

                                                        the two of your brains IQ's put together = half of a normal human brain IQ

                                                        FUCKING MORONS
                                                        Justin you never change even with a new nick and lets not forget your other nic DomainBroker and how you talk back and forth with yourself when your selling a domain !!! (classic stuff )

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                                                        • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Aug 2009
                                                          • 3163

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by CyberClaire
                                                          Justin you never change even with a new nick and lets not forget your other nic DomainBroker and how you talk back and forth with yourself when your selling a domain !!! (classic stuff )
                                                          Claire show some more pics of your nasty self and feet, I got a good laugh out of those.

                                                          I've sold single names worth more than all of yours put together.

                                                          oh wait, you don't even personally own the domains you sell.

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                                                          • Cutty
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                            • 1265

                                                            #129
                                                            claire that's just clever marketing, Justin should be commended for his unique approach

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                                                            • Domain Diva
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Oct 2007
                                                              • 10180

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Cutty
                                                              claire that's just clever marketing, Justin should be commended for his unique approach
                                                              I agree l give him 10 out of 10 for that !

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                                                              • Domain Diva
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Oct 2007
                                                                • 10180

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by area51
                                                                Claire show some more pics of your nasty self and feet, I got a good laugh out of those.

                                                                I've sold single names worth more than all of yours put together.

                                                                oh wait, you don't even personally own the domains you sell.
                                                                ok I will take some more pics just for you ...

                                                                good luck if you have sold some high ticket domains ..no problem with that !


                                                                I broker in total a database of over 1 million domains (BROKER) and maybe the email address mrdomainbroker hints at that.......


                                                                Here is a scoop just for you Justin...your local real estate broker doesnt really own all those houses he has for sale (shocking yes!!!!! but true )

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                                                                • CamsMaster
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2009
                                                                  • 1200

                                                                  #132
                                                                  why don't you try something with it ? those guys from webcams.com have an awesome whitelabel... and great tools as example try to make profit not to sell it
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                                                                  • mint
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Nov 2007
                                                                    • 95

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by montel
                                                                    livejasmin.com seemed to manage without a 500k domain
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                                                                    • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                      A freakin' legend!
                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 18975

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Yea, the white label from webcams.com looks great.
                                                                      Boner Money

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                                                                      • cam_girls
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Apr 2009
                                                                        • 2968

                                                                        #135
                                                                        SecretShows.com that would be it. I was wondering how Area51 could be so snarly after joining 2 months ago, it takes years for everyone else to get that way!

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                                                                        • After Shock Media
                                                                          It's coming look busy
                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                          • 35299

                                                                          #136
                                                                          people make new names and rejoin.

                                                                          BTW cam girls and claire are like a perfect match - perhaps the first GFY wedding. Just have to have them get signed waivers from their wards or whomever has responsibility over them.

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                                                                          • lazycash
                                                                            Troll Patrol
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 15214

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by cam_girls
                                                                            By memory Business.com was making $15M per year.
                                                                            Cams.com declared over double that, and LiveJasmin and other AWE sites are nearly 10 times larger than Cams.com.




                                                                            not by accident
                                                                            So whether by accident or intentional, it doesn't matter. Within adult we've come to know your domain as adult oriented, but to many outside of adult your domain simply contains two mainstream words that many do not associate with adult content. Cams.com and Webcams.com aren't going anywhere and anything that would restrict minors from viewing their content would obviously affect all of adult and not just them.
                                                                            "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                            Its crazy..."

                                                                            VenusBlogger

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                                                                            • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Jesus fucking christ cam_girls, you're about retarded and a half aren't you?

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                                                                              • okny
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                • 5761

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                Jesus fucking christ cam_girls, you're about retarded and a half aren't you?
                                                                                He sounds like a surfer that had a mainstream business and ended up in the adult industry some how, he will understand in time when his so called #'s don't add up.
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                                                                                • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by okny
                                                                                  He sounds like a surfer that had a mainstream business and ended up in the adult industry some how, he will understand in time when his so called #'s don't add up.
                                                                                  No he sounds like daddy is a millionaire and he conned him into buying him a domain because he think just because he paid low $xxx,xxx for it, it will make him 100x that while doing nothing.

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                                                                                  • okny
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 5761

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                                    No he sounds like daddy is a millionaire and he conned him into buying him a domain because he think just because he paid low $xxx,xxx for it, it will make him 100x that while doing nothing.
                                                                                    The end result that domain will stay redirected for about 2 more years he will make tops 50k from and will end selling it.
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                                                                                    Icq: 306232
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                                                                                    • cam_girls
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2009
                                                                                      • 2968

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                      So whether by accident or intentional, it doesn't matter. Within adult we've come to know your domain as adult oriented, but to many outside of adult your domain simply contains two mainstream words that many do not associate with adult content. Cams.com and Webcams.com aren't going anywhere and anything that would restrict minors from viewing their content would obviously affect all of adult and not just them.
                                                                                      Camgirls is clearly an adult name, to 99+% of surfers

                                                                                      93% of sites that mention camgirls mention sex.
                                                                                      3% of sites that mention webcams mention sex.

                                                                                      It might not matter now but who knows, governments relish making new internet laws, it's a bit seedy sending millions of mainstream traffic to porn. What if your surname was Disney and you sent 1000s of kids from disney.com to bangbros?

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                                                                                      • okny
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 5761

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by cam_girls
                                                                                        Camgirls is clearly an adult name, to 99+% of surfers

                                                                                        93% of sites that mention camgirls mention sex.
                                                                                        3% of sites that mention webcams mention sex.

                                                                                        It might not matter now but who knows, governments relish making new internet laws, it's a bit seedy sending millions of mainstream traffic to porn. What if your surname was Disney and you sent 1000s of kids from disney.com to bangbros?
                                                                                        I don't know what you get out of this but if i was you i would just spend time working on a business plan instead giving your theory on how 2+2=10

                                                                                        If you have so much so called knowledge then go apply to your business and see what happens and don't waste your time telling the industry how you will make millions based on what other companies are doing
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                                                                                        Icq: 306232
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                                                                                        • lagcam
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2007
                                                                                          • 2890

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          I am sorry I must have misread the thread title.

                                                                                          I thought it was about livecams.com but it seems that it is just another excuse for the camgirls.com haters to have another pop at him..... and for him to rise to the bait again.

                                                                                          Let it go already. Yes camgirls has some wrong ideas about running a live cam site.....and from what I can see he is not alone, but this thread is not about camgirls.com it is about livecams.com which is for sale.
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                                                                                          • okny
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 5761

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by lagcam
                                                                                            I am sorry I must have misread the thread title.

                                                                                            I thought it was about livecams.com but it seems that it is just another excuse for the camgirls.com haters to have another pop at him..... and for him to rise to the bait again.

                                                                                            Let it go already. Yes camgirls has some wrong ideas about running a live cam site.....and from what I can see he is not alone, but this thread is not about camgirls.com it is about livecams.com which is for sale.
                                                                                            Nobody asked him to tell the entire world his plan to become a leader in the cam industry, he brought it upon himself and yes this is thread was started with the sale of livecams.com which is a great domain and hope Rick finds a buyer for it but then again this is gfy so if you can't take the heat then stay out the kitchen.
                                                                                            Aim: okny
                                                                                            Icq: 306232
                                                                                            Skype: OlegKrasBT

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                                                                                            • comeplay
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                              • 1435

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              ^^ free bumps for Rick atleast!


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                                                                                              • Bake
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                • 5919

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by pornocruto
                                                                                                Try the subforum Sell and Buy Forum.

                                                                                                Thats actually what it is for....
                                                                                                You are fucking dickhead, Please note the diference from spaming and from serious selling
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                                                                                                • Rick Latona
                                                                                                  The Best Ideas Start Here
                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 6037

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Wow the drama. Thanks for reminding me why I don't come to GFY so often anymore.

                                                                                                  For those that are curious, we are working two buyers at the full 500k. It's just an issue of getting them financed at this point. A deal has yet to be closed, though.

                                                                                                  It's a great domain. I think most of you know that.
                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                  Rick Latona
                                                                                                  http://latonas.com

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                                                                                                  • Forest
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                    • 9135

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by CyberClaire
                                                                                                    .Cams.com

                                                                                                    WRONG!

                                                                                                    cams.com was purchased long after the program was making bank in the cam business

                                                                                                    can you name the orig domain they built the program on bannana claire

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                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                      • 42635

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      Interesting.
                                                                                                      Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                                                                      Enough Said.

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