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  • tonyparra
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2008
    • 4568

    #1

    Why not tell surfer the price upfront?

    How come on any of the join now text on paysites do they say "join now for $1.00" etc except on join page? Why dont you put the amount of content available for a shoot etc? Like it shows trailer or sample pics but also say there is 400 pics with this update and the runtime is 30:00 minutes? I think that many surfers are stupid and believe that what they see is what you got. They dont read the shit on the join page they just see signup form and back out because they are suprised you are asking for money and the amount if you tell them up front price and what the content you have is they may buy more. At least that works on clip sites which have hardly any kind of preview at all.

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  • Pleasurepays
    BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
    • Aug 2002
    • 11913

    #2
    this is an industry built on deceit.

    as an industry, we would like to ask you to please leave. you clearly have no place here.

    thank you

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    • DaddyHalbucks
      A freakin' legend!
      • Feb 2004
      • 18975

      #3
      ...cause you'll have more money in the bank to defend an FTC probe if you do not?

      ?
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      • Iron Fist
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2006
        • 23400

        #4
        Because when they detect "TeenCat", they purposely remove the $1 join price.
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        • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
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          • Aug 2009
          • 3163

          #5
          surfer alert

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          • 'mo
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2009
            • 356

            #6
            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
            this is an industry built on deceit.

            as an industry, we would like to ask you to please leave. you clearly have no place here.

            thank you
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            • tonyparra
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2008
              • 4568

              #7
              Originally posted by Pleasurepays
              this is an industry built on deceit.

              as an industry, we would like to ask you to please leave. you clearly have no place here.

              thank you
              haha well how come this works for clip stores? Some clips cost more than your monthly membership but they sale...Also adult industry where is micropayments? Will you leave all innovation to apple and tubes? Us surfers got cc in hand, so do tell...

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              • tonyparra
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                • Jul 2008
                • 4568

                #8
                Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                ...cause you'll have more money in the bank to defend an FTC probe if you do not?

                ?
                lol haha first time i see something other than "right here bro" from you good job for trying today

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                • tonyparra
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4568

                  #9
                  When will you make it easy to buy your porn tube clips get boring so we upgrade to pornhub premium and im still not satisfied

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                  • Pleasurepays
                    BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 11913

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tonyparra
                    haha well how come this works for clip stores? Some clips cost more than your monthly membership but they sale...Also adult industry where is micropayments? Will you leave all innovation to apple and tubes? Us surfers got cc in hand, so do tell...
                    it was a sarcastic way of saying this industry is run by juvenile shitheads, who are proud of their adversarial relationships with their own market and with no concept of how to sell something by being honest and upfront and truthful and building customers for the long term. its a business that has always done almost nothing but trick people once and hope they forget to cancel as they continually hunt for new people to trick.

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                    • EthnicLover
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1584

                      #11
                      I don't understand your question.

                      Do you want to know why tours do not put the exact monthly membership amount on the tour?

                      Some do but most don't. However the price is displayed on the sign-up page.


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                      • tonyparra
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                        it was a sarcastic way of saying this industry is run by juvenile shitheads, who are proud of their adversarial relationships with their own market and with no concept of how to sell something by being honest and upfront and truthful and building customers for the long term. its a business that has always done almost nothing but trick people once and hope they forget to cancel as they continually hunt for new people to trick.
                        i think that sums it up, nothing else to see here i guess

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                        • crockett
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                          • May 2003
                          • 76818

                          #13
                          Last time I checked we were selling Ass, not the price of tea in china. The reason we don't sell price, is because it's irrelevant to a surfer whom has a hard-on for the girl.. (with-in reason)

                          That's the reason the $10 porn stuff never did well. Porn is a impulse buy not a coupon shopping spree.
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                          • tonyparra
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4568

                            #14
                            Originally posted by crockett
                            Last time I checked we were selling Ass, not the price of tea in china. The reason we don't sell price, is because it's irrelevant to a surfer whom has a hard-on for the girl.. (with-in reason)

                            That's the reason the $10 porn stuff never did well. Porn is a impulse buy not a coupon shopping spree.
                            I understand this sir. And thats my point why does it works for clips with no preview just a few pics? They have what they cost right there and the runtime. I think surfer thinks that 1 min flv preview is what you have on the members area the dumb ones anyways. I think you would like more dumb people with money to signup? If not the price why not the runtime or the amount of content for each scene? Also where is micropayments?

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                            • MetaMan
                              I AM WEB 2.0
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 28682

                              #15

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                              • MetaMan
                                I AM WEB 2.0
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 28682

                                #16
                                tony you are cracking me up brotha! keep it up! LOLZ

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                                • tonyparra
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2008
                                  • 4568

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MetaMan
                                  tony you are cracking me up brotha! keep it up! LOLZ
                                  um ok...

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                                  • Nautilus
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                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 1631

                                    #18
                                    We fully disclose basic site facts (# of video sets, # of photo sets etc) on the join pages, and even link to full reviews for those who want to learn more before joining:

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                                    http://www.kissmatures.com/join.php?
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                                    Reviews are designed to sell of course, but they're still quite honest.
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                                    • MetaMan
                                      I AM WEB 2.0
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 28682

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tonyparra
                                      um ok...

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                                      • MetaMan
                                        I AM WEB 2.0
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 28682

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by tonyparra
                                        When will you make it easy to buy your porn tube clips get boring so we upgrade to pornhub premium and im still not satisfied
                                        tony you are a premium donkey.

                                        hats off to you.

                                        LOLZ

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                                        • pornpf69
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 15782

                                          #21
                                          because they might change the prices whenever they want to...

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                                          • tonyparra
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2008
                                            • 4568

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MetaMan
                                            tony you are a premium donkey.

                                            hats off to you.

                                            LOLZ
                                            to you...you are web 2.0 after all right?

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                                            • Agent 488
                                              Registered User
                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 22511

                                              #23
                                              why does the food look different on the label than inside thew package/can?

                                              use your brain.

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                                              • xenigo
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 8067

                                                #24
                                                Your best information can be gleaned from surfers, not from webmasters. You must listen to your customers. He has some interesting points.

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                                                • tonyparra
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2008
                                                  • 4568

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by xenigo
                                                  Your best information can be gleaned from surfers, not from webmasters. You must listen to your customers. He has some interesting points.
                                                  thanks voice of reason

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                                                  • psbfo
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                    • 181

                                                    #26
                                                    There's also regional billing and different rates of foreign currency exchange.

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                                                    • Pleasurepays
                                                      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 11913

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by tonyparra
                                                      I understand this sir. And thats my point why does it works for clips with no preview just a few pics? They have what they cost right there and the runtime. I think surfer thinks that 1 min flv preview is what you have on the members area the dumb ones anyways. I think you would like more dumb people with money to signup? If not the price why not the runtime or the amount of content for each scene? Also where is micropayments?
                                                      so you get what he's saying as the typical adult webmaster right?

                                                      basically... the supermarket doesn't sell price... it sells food. so the average shopper doesn't care about what anything costs in the supermarket... they'll just throw it in the cart and wait until they get to the cashier to see what it costs. and they'll never feel deceived or disappointed... because... uhm... yeah... that's how you build solid relationships with customers.

                                                      Last edited by Pleasurepays; 10-04-2009, 06:32 AM.

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                                                      • gideongallery
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                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                        • 7082

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Nautilus
                                                        We fully disclose basic site facts (# of video sets, # of photo sets etc) on the join pages, and even link to full reviews for those who want to learn more before joining:

                                                        http://www.backdoorlesbians.com/join.php?
                                                        http://www.kissmatures.com/join.php?
                                                        http://www.straponsissies.com/join.php?

                                                        Reviews are designed to sell of course, but they're still quite honest.
                                                        that terrible you don't even know the price of the membership until you hit the cart.

                                                        that even worse then the price is only on the join page that this guy is complaining about.

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                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 28609

                                                          #29
                                                          Well most sponsors offer various payment methods for its affiliates to promote the sites now so you cant really advertise a set price on the frontpage
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                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 28609

                                                            #30
                                                            spacash has its $9 sites that CLEARLY advertise the price

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                                                            • MaDalton
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                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 39861

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by psbfo
                                                              There's also regional billing and different rates of foreign currency exchange.
                                                              here's one reason why i don't do it - cause it causes confusion when you advertise $20 and then the price is 20 euro.
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                                                              • Joshua G
                                                                dumb libs love censorship
                                                                • Jul 2008
                                                                • 8198

                                                                #32
                                                                the name of the game is getting the surfer to the join page. if you spill the price before the join page, they may not ever get to the join page.

                                                                the other reason is the price is too high at most paysites.

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                                                                • Nautilus
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 1631

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                  that terrible you don't even know the price of the membership until you hit the cart.

                                                                  that even worse then the price is only on the join page that this guy is complaining about.
                                                                  Send your complain to VISA then - I personally do not have problems stating the price at the join page, but VISA only allows that at the billing company's join form. Have no idea why they want it that way, they just passed this rule on to the billing companies maybe like 7 years ago, previously stating the price was allowed and we always had it written on the join buttons.
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                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                    • 68184

                                                                    #34
                                                                    this is entirely wrong.


                                                                    Originally posted by crockett
                                                                    Last time I checked we were selling Ass, not the price of tea in china. The reason we don't sell price, is because it's irrelevant to a surfer whom has a hard-on for the girl.. (with-in reason)

                                                                    That's the reason the $10 porn stuff never did well. Porn is a impulse buy not a coupon shopping spree.

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                                                                    • TheLegacy
                                                                      SEO RobertWarrenSEO.com
                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                      • 18176

                                                                      #35
                                                                      In short you don't want to get into a price war with other sites - your content should sell itself. Start thinking money up front and many will walk away - start thinking, "damn I so want to jerk off to that girl".. then they will pay anything to do so.

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                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                        • 68184

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by TheLegacy
                                                                        In short you don't want to get into a price war with other sites - your content should sell itself. Start thinking money up front and many will walk away - start thinking, "damn I so want to jerk off to that girl".. then they will pay anything to do so.
                                                                        useability guru jakob nielson completely disagrees with this conclusion


                                                                        sites can lose customers if the ballpark price is not known early enough in the process, when your potential customer is evaluating your product.
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                                                                        • shimmy2
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                                          • 3271

                                                                          #37
                                                                          porn like most products really has no set price other than what people are willing to pay for it. its dependent on the demand for it and what people emotionally think the value of it is. sure it costs to shoot it, host it, and get the surfer to the page, but once the final product is finished what is the actual cost of creation.... it varies depending on the talent, equipment, 300 dollar signup super duper promo bonus days etc
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                                                                          • BV
                                                                            wtf
                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                            • 10914

                                                                            #38
                                                                            about the only difference one way or the other will be your join form ratio

                                                                            same amount of sales

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                                                                            • digitaldivas
                                                                              ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
                                                                              • Sep 2007
                                                                              • 4328

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by MetaMan
                                                                              tony you are a premium donkey.

                                                                              hats off to you.

                                                                              LOLZ
                                                                              ...I actually agree, MetaMan, what the fuck is wrong with you tony?!? ...really?
                                                                              Last edited by digitaldivas; 10-04-2009, 10:17 PM.
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                                                                              • digitaldivas
                                                                                ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
                                                                                • Sep 2007
                                                                                • 4328

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                this is entirely wrong.

                                                                                ...actually totally agree with this point as well
                                                                                ...

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