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11-12-2002, 11:09 AM

Fuck. Another one cheating company. They picked up the traffic i send them through my "free password" site from overture and terminated my account stating that all my 50 signups were cancelled. I was surprised so much cause that traffic usually gives 25-30% rebills. After all they offered me 5 bucks per each signup i send So i was very interested why did nobody rebilled. I signed up under my ref link to 2 sites to which i send the most traffic. And what? After WNU approved my transaction i got a blank page on both sites. Also an email arrived with the url to enter the member area which also resulted in a blank page. The only link that worked in these emails was link to billingsupport.com so no wonder that everybody cancelled. I send this explanation to Jason from xxxatm and got no reply from him but after that all was fixed. On the next day i asked him about this message and he said that never seen it and that nobody was working on Sunday but that day he was available on ICQ. XXXATM wasted all traffic i send them and after all they refusing to pay for it. (5 bucks don't counts) So everybody dealing with them be very careful. Those guys are assholes.

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11-12-2002, 11:48 AM

Listen you fuck nut, Everyone here knows that I never post about sponsors on boards, but In this case I feel I have to. XXXATM are some of the best people around, and pay every penny to everyone that doesn't cheat them. These guys Rock and are a rock solid company. Are you sure you didn't cheat??..like maybe telling people to sign up and then cancell ???...hahaha Your a cheat and you got cought, thats what happens to Idiots.

I.ve known Jayson for over 5 years and have done a Ton of business with him and all the companies he runs. XXXATM is a Kick Ass program, and EVERYONE that does honest business with them knows this, plain and simple!!!

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11-12-2002, 11:48 AM

I've been dealing with XXXATM for a while and too be honest its been converting pretty good for me and I always received my money!!! NO COMPLAINTES HERE!

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11-12-2002, 11:52 AM

I just started using them so we will see what happens.

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11-12-2002, 11:53 AM

I usually don't defend anyone. But XXXATM is very respected all around and their reputation is solid with me. Care to explain in DETAIL why they're not paying you? Maybe not.
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11-12-2002, 11:54 AM

I have been using them from their beginning, and They Always pay ontime everytime. Their support has also been great, they helped me make some nice ads, and They are converting very well for me. In my opinion xxxatm is a great sponsor.

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11-12-2002, 12:00 PM

Hello, number one, I told you yesterday that Id look into the problem as no one was working yesterday/weekend due to the holiday. Since you decided to come and play on the boards and tried to tarnish my name, when I asked you to give me a day or so to look into this matter I will not be discussing this any further.

I have 100's of webmasters in my program that is fairly new and no one has had a problem like yours. None of my other webmasters ever have had a ZERO percentage on their conversions. Even if there was a problem with my signup pages, no one else has been affected by it like you have been, and no one on my staff has told me that there was a problem with them. I have had webmasters with poor conversions and we just split our ties or I moved them into a different program, but they never had a ZERO percentage.

When I came to you to tell you that I did not want your traffic anymore and you wont be paid, this is what you told me and I quote direct from my ICQ "the page is like the hundreeds passwords sites on the net. ". Plain and simple, I do not take Password traffic, it states it my terms.

If you would have given me a day or 2 to look into this matter with what you are saying as an error on my part, but like I said this is a closed matter, and take your password traffic elsewhere!!!

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11-12-2002, 12:43 PM

Yeeeeeeeeeeah...Go Jason =)
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11-12-2002, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by JasonXXXATM
Hello, number one, I told you yesterday that Id look into the problem as no one was working yesterday/weekend due to the holiday. Since you decided to come and play on the boards and tried to tarnish my name, when I asked you to give me a day or so to look into this matter I will not be discussing this any further.

I have 100's of webmasters in my program that is fairly new and no one has had a problem like yours. None of my other webmasters ever have had a ZERO percentage on their conversions. Even if there was a problem with my signup pages, no one else has been affected by it like you have been, and no one on my staff has told me that there was a problem with them. I have had webmasters with poor conversions and we just split our ties or I moved them into a different program, but they never had a ZERO percentage.

When I came to you to tell you that I did not want your traffic anymore and you wont be paid, this is what you told me and I quote direct from my ICQ "the page is like the hundreeds passwords sites on the net. ". Plain and simple, I do not take Password traffic, it states it my terms.

If you would have given me a day or 2 to look into this matter with what you are saying as an error on my part, but like I said this is a closed matter, and take your password traffic elsewhere!!!

Jason

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11-12-2002, 12:50 PM

XXATM kicks ass

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11-12-2002, 01:14 PM

through my "free password" site
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11-12-2002, 01:14 PM

You don't take password traffic?? Really? And what about http://www.freexxxplanet.com/over.htm for instance. As for your terms "The action of sending any hits from any URLs which contain and/or promote the following content, programs or linking practices without the prior written consent of XXXATM will result in the immediate cancellation of the account from which the hits were sent and the forfeiture of any funds owed to that account: child pornography, beastialty, warez, password selling or trading, newsgroup postings, spam e-mails." everybody knows that password selling or trading mean sites there passwords are published not "free porn guides".

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11-12-2002, 01:29 PM

Bottom Line is that the traffic you sent me had ZERO% retention. Whether there was an error or not, NOT ONE OF MY OTHER AFFILIATES RUNS below 15%. If they run that low I make other arrangements with them.

The person you are telling me about does not run a low retention rate.

You were sending people to my site and telling them to cancel.

Peace out drech.

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11-12-2002, 01:59 PM

If you break a sponsors rule, you shouldn?t get paid.

...however

If retentions sucks, that?s not his fault (unless he was cheating so go prove it). He could have shit traffic in which the sponsor has the right to stop dealing with the affiliate BUT HE SHOULD STAY PAY EVERYTHING OWED UP TO THE POINT OF CANCELLATION.

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11-12-2002, 02:09 PM

Do you see anywhere on my site that i asking visitors to cancel? They simply did not have a chance to enter your member area. And right, they all cancelled cause you dont give em any chance to enter inside. Do you expect them to rebill after that? And the guy running freexxxplanet is taking traffic from the same source as i and pushing it through the identical site. You wasted all the traffic i send you and of course you don't want to pay for it. Maybe after all i need to send an email to overture and ask for a refund since the guy whom i send visitors throw them to trash. Guess what they will reply? I don't have to care whether you pick signups or lose them. Its your part of job. All that i need is to deliver signups and i done this pretty nice but you lose them all! I've checked personally and as i already said coldn't enter your member area.

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11-12-2002, 02:18 PM

Like I said no one was here the last 2 days to "fix any problems" and anyone who knows me, knows that I can just about update a picture gallery let alone deal with any tech problems I might have.

#2, lets say that there was a problem with my sites, there would have been a problem for all my other webmasters and none of them had ZERO Retention on their accounts.

On your site you say that they should join for free, and IF they cancel then they wont be billed and they can move on. Why not just tell them to join my site, cancel the first 2 minutes, get 3 days of access and then have some idiot pay me $30 for you signing up.

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11-12-2002, 02:27 PM

drech, it's obvious that you are a cheat, and think that sponsors should pay you for completely worthless traffic, and perhaps you even coax them into signing up and then immediately cancelling so that you earn a sign up. You a real work of art you scum bag.... you are a big part of the reason why processors and sponsors are having problems with high chargebacks. You should do all of us a favor and quit the biz, since you cant play by the rules. You will never make any money so your basically wasting your own time as well as hurting the biz for the real webmasters.

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11-12-2002, 02:53 PM

There was no a single word about cancellation. There was just a following text: "They won't charge you for the free pass". And i can't understand what's wrong in it? Maybe you r charging for free pass?
As for the errors i noticed glitches just after signup. Revenue from joins field showed amount 1$ smaller than actual and the revenue field in the Payout history area was 60$ smaller.
And if you dont think that there was an error with sites maybe you'll publish the cancellation reasons for that 50 signups which Paycom gathers.

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11-12-2002, 02:56 PM

Just got shown this so I had to comment. Jason from xxxatm is a great guy and xxxatm is a great program.

Read the tos of any program before you start sending it traffic.

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11-12-2002, 03:00 PM

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Damn some kids in Iberville musta been pissing you off. It's like a fuckin village. Do you mean that all webmasters from Quebec are banned or is it just *snickers* webmasters from the Great Iberville?

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11-12-2002, 03:02 PM

I agree, XXXATM is very reliable, honest, and everyone there is very helpful.
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11-12-2002, 03:05 PM

Lets see here...

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Seems as though our scammer doesn't even recommend himself...Coincidence?

I think not.

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11-12-2002, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by drech
There was no a single word about cancellation. There was just a following text: "They won't charge you for the free pass". And i can't understand what's wrong in it? Maybe you r charging for free pass?
As for the errors i noticed glitches just after signup. Revenue from joins field showed amount 1$ smaller than actual and the revenue field in the Payout history area was 60$ smaller.
And if you dont think that there was an error with sites maybe you'll publish the cancellation reasons for that 50 signups which Paycom gathers.

drech...dude...Give it up man...Jason doesn't have to proove shit to anyone...He's a long standing member of the adult community and has an excellent reputation...You have a few posts hear and there, scream that the sky is falling and freak when no one believes you.

Jason run's a tight shop...Plain and simple...He's proven it time and time again...I think that is more than enough for everone.

Give up, go home and suck your thumb...Stop being an annoyance.

Ohh, and of course.....Go Fuck Yourself
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11-12-2002, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by JasonXXXATM
Like I said no one was here the last 2 days to "fix any problems" and anyone who knows me, knows that I can just about update a picture gallery let alone deal with any tech problems I might have.

#2, lets say that there was a problem with my sites, there would have been a problem for all my other webmasters and none of them had ZERO Retention on their accounts.

On your site you say that they should join for free, and IF they cancel then they wont be billed and they can move on. Why not just tell them to join my site, cancel the first 2 minutes, get 3 days of access and then have some idiot pay me $30 for you signing up.

Drech

If you promote a FREESIGNUP push clickcash or tricams, not really a good way to send to a sponser who isn't doing a free signup.

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11-12-2002, 04:36 PM

Drech,

What kind of webmaster are you?

You cheat, you STEAL OTHER WEBMASTERS SITES, and then you go and flame up good sponsors in the boards!

No wonder your Account get close, you should even be paid a by anyone. Be honest and then you'll have the right to complain if you really are being unfairly treated.

I am the owner of http://www.freexxxplanet.com and has been in this business for many years. And then about 6 months ago we saw you on in the SE, starting to copy everyone else site, html and text! You even copyied my site entirely before including the meta tag where my personal info was in it!

YOUR SITE: http://www.freeonlinepornguide.com is pretty much just a copy of other people site still.
All your text come from others site, and you even still use some graphic, tables and text from my current site.

I know sometime site might get similar, but there's a difference in between being similar and copying everyone. Make your own HTML and text to start with, then stop cheating.

I have been promoting XXXATM since many months, and I CAN ASSURE YOU that they totally ROCK. I speak with Jason and AC on the phone on occassion and write to them on ICQ often. We think they are some of the most responsible affiliate we have seen.
WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM. They have been in this biz since YEARS and ALWAYS paid their webmaster. If you're honest that is.

Hope you get your act together and stop copying and cheating. Things would be more simple for everyone, and we would respect you more as a webmaster.

Jon
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11-12-2002, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by spaceman73
Drech,

I am the owner of http://www.freexxxplanet.com and has been in this business for many years. And then about 6 months ago we saw you on in the SE, starting to copy everyone else site, html and text! You even copyied my site entirely before including the meta tag where my personal info was in it!

YOUR SITE: http://www.freeonlinepornguide.com is pretty much just a copy of other people site still.
All your text come from others site, and you even still use some graphic, tables and text from my current site.

I know sometime site might get similar, but there's a difference in between being similar and copying everyone. Make your own HTML and text to start with, then stop cheating.

Jon

Sounds as if you have a law suit that you can win. I would toast his ass.

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11-12-2002, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by suesheboy

Sounds as if you have a law suit that you can win. I would toast his ass.

Well, I gave the guy a chance there, and advised him. He took the integral copy out, so I didn't pursue. But has been copying bits and pieces here and there from everyone since. I guess you end up getting what you deserve when you do these things.

Jon

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