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Money buys happiness? Yes or No?

11-12-2002, 08:26 AM

I've heard many people debate the importance of money...

Most people I have heard discussing this seem to stand by the idea that money truly does buy happiness.

What do you think?

Can anyone give me some kind of argument stating why money does not truly buy happiness?

Is there more to life than money? If so, how is money not involved?

I'm sincerely intereseted in finding reasons why money does not buy happiness or why money is not the most important thing in the world.

This is not a trick.

I'm not trying to prove a point.

I want to learn about the other side of the story..

Any ideas??

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11-12-2002, 08:30 AM

Money can't buy happiness. but it CAN rent it.

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11-12-2002, 08:31 AM

YES, if you know how to use them and content with what you have

NO, if you are a moron with envying eyes and want more, and more, and more and more...
than one NEVER be happy...
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11-12-2002, 08:39 AM

Hmmm.... Money can't make you happy but it can buy all the toys that make you happy. Happiness is more to do with contentment - when you stop watching TV and magazines/newspapers and seeing all the adverts then you are less aware of new toys - therefore you're aquisitive desires aren't as much in control of your aims in life and you can start concentrating on the important things. Like friends and family, fitness and health.
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11-12-2002, 08:40 AM

Its much easyer to be miserable with money, then with out !

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11-12-2002, 08:52 AM

If I had my choice I would rather be free of chronic pain than be rich !

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11-12-2002, 08:54 AM

yes, except for health, I've never had a problem that couldn't have been solved with money.
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11-12-2002, 08:57 AM

No! Plain and simple? Not really!!!

Let's face it, a VERY high percentage of couples that fight and argue, do so over money! People quit jobs everyday because they pay shit. People are unhappy because of the "Money" they earn. Stress, suicide and daily unhappiness is often caused by a lack of money.

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11-12-2002, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Honeyslut
If I had my choice I would rather be free of chronic pain than be rich !

HS,
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11-12-2002, 09:00 AM

unfortunately, money can't buy true love
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11-12-2002, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Ramster
People are unhappy because of the "Money" they earn. Stress, suicide and daily unhappiness is often caused by a lack of money.

and having lots of money solves those problems
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11-12-2002, 09:08 AM

Money DEFINATELY can buy happiness. I know that if I was rich, there'd be a smile on my face that you'd never be able to knock off.
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11-12-2002, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi
unfortunately, money can't buy true love

True but it will by hookers and booze.
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11-12-2002, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

HS,
I'd rather be rich
AND
free of chronic pain
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11-12-2002, 09:20 AM

Sure it can, it can buy me what I want and that makes me happy, and I can use it to spoil my brother and nephews. Yup I am inclined to say that it can!

But if a person is grumpy and miserable all the time then it may not work... unless of course they are using the money to buy prozac etc then who knows!...

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11-12-2002, 09:21 AM

Money can buy pleasures but not true happiness. I believe that happiness is not obtainable through matierialism but rather is obtained by being at peace with onesself and by being a compasionate, loving, kind human being.

I am actually reading a book by the Dali Lama "The Art of Happiness". I recomend it... its great!

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11-12-2002, 09:25 AM

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11-12-2002, 09:29 AM

Best line...

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11-12-2002, 09:32 AM

Anybody who tells you that money is the root of all evil, doesn't fucking have any. They say money can't buy happiness. Look at the fucking smile on my face!

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11-12-2002, 09:33 AM

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11-12-2002, 09:36 AM

I know from experience that having lots of money don't make you happy, but fuck when I had no money I sure thought it would make me happy. It doesn't enough said.

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11-12-2002, 09:46 AM

Money can definatly buy happiness, but as you buy it.. it slowly becomes more and more expensive.

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Happines is all relative, If I am x happy it will take x+1 be happy.
Ever heard life refered to as a roller coaster, they are right, The happier you get, eventually you will pay for it and come down, and visa-vera (hence those freaky sado people, they are paying in pain, for pleasure when it ceases). But when you die, your 'loans' on happiness, or your happiness 'deposits' of pain are useless. So basically all that matters is 'Just how happy are you gonna be on your death bed, cause those are th only the only 'free happy points' you will ever get.

So make sure on your death bed you have one HELL of a nice big crack rock, wtf, you're about to die anyways.

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11-12-2002, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Brown Bear
Anybody who tells you that money is the root of all evil, doesn't fucking have any. They say money can't buy happiness. Look at the fucking smile on my face!

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11-12-2002, 10:01 AM

Indeed.
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11-12-2002, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by vasten

So make sure on your death bed you have one HELL of a nice big crack rock, wtf, you're about to die anyways.

w00t! never thought of that....
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11-12-2002, 10:08 AM

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"Anyone who says money is the root of all evil, doesn't fucking have it! They say money can't buy happiness? Look at the smile on my face, ear to ear baby!"

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11-12-2002, 10:09 AM

I have a lot more fun when I have money.

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11-12-2002, 10:17 AM

Money can't buy happiness?

I dont know about "buying happiness" but when I have a slow month and the bills dont get paid the stress level in my home goes up 10 fold.

So when I have money and the bills get paid, food gets put on the table, Cloths bought for the kids. We are lot happier with than with out.
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11-12-2002, 10:19 AM

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11-12-2002, 10:21 AM

Money buys happiness. no
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11-12-2002, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi
unfortunately, money can't buy true love

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11-12-2002, 10:23 AM

If you are not enough without it you will never be enough with it.

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11-12-2002, 10:29 AM

Rich people can be depressed and poor people can be happy, but overall I think money helps make someone happy.

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11-12-2002, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
Best line...

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11-12-2002, 10:50 AM

This is all very interesting....

I'm learning alot here...

Most of you believe that money does indeed buy happiness to some level.

Is there anyone out there who believes that money has no part in making one truly happy?

Nemesis:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you were one of the many people who said that money cannot buy true happiness.....can you elaborate a bit?

Anyone else have comments on this subject?
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11-12-2002, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
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11-12-2002, 11:18 AM

Seeing the people around me happy makes me happy, Now if I had money I would make sure everyone around me was happy.

I give to the HIV funds to help find a cure for my sister, I would buy the best doctors for my dads cancer. I would give my mother the home she never has had. I would also give to my other siblings the money they need to be debt free so they could live more comfortable.

And I would definitely give my kids the best damn education that money could buy.

so YES money would make me happy in so many different aspects. One of these days all this may be possible. But I don't see that anytime soon, lol

As always I think of making others happy instead of myself, I guess that means I'm a mom myself.

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11-12-2002, 01:27 PM

Money cannot 'make' you happy. You can only CHOOSE to be or not to be happy.... with or without money. Saying money can 'make' you happy is like saying a frying pan can 'make' you happy. It's ridiculous.

If you are an unhappy person, you're going to be the same unhappy person if you suddenly have $1 mil deposited into your account. Oh sure... it'll be nice up front and may take away some of the problems that are making you unhappy... temporarily.

In order to be happy, you must first identify why it is that you are unhappy.

Q. Is it because you're over your head in debt? "Yes! That's it.... so you see, money WILL make me happy because then I wouldn't be in debt anymore!"

A. Wrong.... why are you in debt in the first place? You couldn't manage your life with limited amounts of money, what the fuck makes you think you're all the sudden going to be better at managing it with large amounts? You'll pay off your debts and aquire new larger ones, because you are a failure at managing your affairs. Money will not make you happy, it will make you more miserable.

Q. "But if I had money, then I could buy all the things that MAKE me happy."

A. Wrong. As I said.... money cannot 'make' you happy. It is a material thing. You can only choose to be or not to be happy. Sure you could buy alot of toys that you THINK will make you happy, but when you tire of those toys, you will once again be unhappy and will find new toys that you 'must have in order to be happy!' These are the 'if only's'.... "If only I had this boat, then I would be happy." "If only I had a nicer house, then I would be happy." "If only I had these clothes, then I would REALLY be happy."

That's not happiness. It's unfulfilled endless greed. Stop calling it happiness. It's not.

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11-12-2002, 01:35 PM

money is freedom,thats all it is,forget about that money is power bullshit...money buys freedom,thats it.
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11-12-2002, 01:37 PM

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11-12-2002, 01:39 PM

money definitely can't buy happiness... but it's a huge down payment!
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11-12-2002, 01:41 PM

but like B.I.G said:

Mo money, Mo problems..
No money, even Mo problems..
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11-12-2002, 01:55 PM

If it don't, atleast it bought me enough beer to forget
why I was unhappy in the first place.

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11-12-2002, 02:40 PM

Money cant buy happiness? Riiiight.

I graduated in 98 flat broke and 80K in debt to the US student loan program. You might as well owe the mob 80k with the interest those things stick you with.

I bust my ass for a couple years in gay porn, and by the time I am 28 I am completely debt free. I own my house free and clear. I own all my vehicles free and clear.

I sit on my ass all day and achieved in 3 years what most people spend a lifetime trying to achieve.

While people have to wake up and do the 9 to 5 for some asshole they hate for an even shittier wage, I wake up when I want. There is no better feeling than that. If I felt like grabbing my laptop and flying to Amsterdam for the weekend, I can. I go to the ATM and see 6 figures just sitting in my blow money account. I am actively having sex with a model.

And some of you could possibly think that it does not make me happy?

I have no kids, I have no debt, and everything I make now just gets added to the pile.

Now you tell me how money didnt buy that kind of piece of mind and happiness.

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money is freedom,thats all it is,forget about that money is power bullshit...money buys freedom,thats it.

Couldnt have said it any better myself.

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11-12-2002, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Money cannot 'make' you happy. You can only CHOOSE to be or not to be happy.... with or without money. Saying money can 'make' you happy is like saying a frying pan can 'make' you happy. It's ridiculous.

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Very well put Amp. Happiness is a state of mind and should not be confused with material wealth.

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11-12-2002, 02:47 PM

[Labret]:

but the money itself isn't what 'makes' you happy. Money doesn't have that property to it. It's flexible, green, has a distinct smell to it.... but as far as I know, it still doesn't hold any mystical properties to alter one's state of mind.

It's a tool that you applied to a long term goal. Achieving that goal and now enjoying the fruits of it is the essence of your happiness. Not the money. The money only got you there.

I know of lots of people who are much happier that make $20k a year than some people making $200k a year. So clearly money does not = happiness. If it did, the person with $20k a year should be significantly less happy than the person with $200k a year. So how is that possible?

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11-12-2002, 02:54 PM

what if we weren't talking about money....
what if we looked at a clan of cavemen.... that trade for things with bearskins....

how stupid would it seem to see a bunch of cavemen arguing over whether or not bearskins can buy happiness....

"Bearskin good.... me very happy! Bearskin get me nice cave and hot woman with long hair to drag with.... bearskin definately buy happiness... "

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11-12-2002, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
[Labret]:

It's a tool that you applied to a long term goal. Achieving that goal and now enjoying the fruits of it is the essence of your happiness. Not the money. The money only got you there.

So money bought my happiness.

I hear what you are saying though. Even though I was flat broke in college, it was some of the best times of my life. And even if the bottom fell out of this industry and I was back to digging in the dirt for 50k a year, I would just be happy for the rest of my life that I got the student loan monkey off my back and Ill never have to pay rent or have a mortgage.

I am the last person that probably should have money. I dont spend it. You are right, the money itself doesnt make me happy, the freedom that money buys me makes me happy.
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11-12-2002, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Ramster
No! Plain and simple? Not really!!!

Let's face it, a VERY high percentage of couples that fight and argue, do so over money! People quit jobs everyday because they pay shit. People are unhappy because of the "Money" they earn. Stress, suicide and daily unhappiness is often caused by a lack of money.

Hence, if they had more money, they would be happy. People are unhappy because of a LACK of money, not an abundance of it.
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11-12-2002, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Sappy

Hence, if they had more money, they would be happy. People are unhappy because of a LACK of money, not an abundance of it.

people are unhappy because they choose to be that way.

In 1986 I grossed roughly $2,300 for the year. I lived on a friends houseboat and pretty much screwed off all the time. Was one of the happiest times of my life.

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