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  • net
    Registered User
    • Jun 2023
    • 6

    #1

    Fuck Taxes

    I also have a question, how do you deal with the taxes? I pay 10% of my income in my country. and still, 10% seems like a lot to me.
  • Rochard
    Jägermeister Test Pilot
    • Dec 2001
    • 75733

    #2
    I write everything off. As much as I can.
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    • CurrentlySober
      Too lazy to wipe my ass
      • Aug 2002
      • 38946

      #3
      what are taxes?


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      • DVTimes
        xxx
        • Jun 2003
        • 31658

        #4
        Originally posted by CurrentlySober
        what are taxes?
        They take you to places when you order them.
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        • CurrentlySober
          Too lazy to wipe my ass
          • Aug 2002
          • 38946

          #5
          Originally posted by DVTimes
          They take you to places when you order them.
          'Order' as in shout at & demand?


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          • NatalieK
            Natalie K
            • Apr 2010
            • 20123

            #6
            Originally posted by net
            I also have a question, how do you deal with the taxes? I pay 10% of my income in my country. and still, 10% seems like a lot to me.
            here in Spain we pay 21% tax on all our income & due to creating the content, we also pay 21% vat...

            It´s a lot to pay out, seeing nearly half your earning go to the tax & vat man!

            not sure the amount is VAT in the UK, US or other countries for creating content, but if correct, every content creator should be paying VAT, you´ll have to speak with your accountants

            We also pay autonomo here in Spain, this is similar to NI in the UK, I suppose in the US, national insurance is paid as a medical insurance & separate pension.
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            • NatalieK
              Natalie K
              • Apr 2010
              • 20123

              #7
              What is VAT charged on in UK?
              VAT is a tax on business transactions that potentially affects all purchases and sales. It is not a tax on profits. VAT is charged at 20% on most supplies, though some are taxed at either 0 or 5%.
              so yes, in the UK, all supplies, E.G. creators, should be paying 20% VAT on their incomes...

              here in Spain...

              What is exempt from VAT in Europe?
              Some goods and services such as education, healthcare and financial services may be exempt from VAT. These sales are exempt from VAT, without the 'right to deduct'. This means you may not deduct the VAT you have paid on purchases related to such sales.

              What services are exempt from VAT in Spain?
              Exempt transactions
              healthcare;
              educational activities;
              social welfare assistance;
              cultural activities;
              sporting activities;
              financial transactions and insurance;
              real estate.
              other than the above it´s 21%...

              the tax and vat can hurt, but then the cost of living is half that in the UK, anything, petrol, rent, insurance, food, drink, everything is very low cost & the sun´s out every day of the year, so it´s summer every day, hence the amazing life style & why i´m happy to pay the vat & tax costs
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              • The Porn Nerd
                Living The Dream
                • Jun 2009
                • 19787

                #8
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                • Major (Tom)
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32492

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rochard
                  I write everything off. As much as I can.
                  I need to get those electricity usage meters. I haven't been writing off any home office power.

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                  • CaptainHowdy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 94736

                    #10
                    I avoid them by being poor . . .

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                    • Look Chang
                      Voyeur
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 18256

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                      I avoid them by being poor . . .
                      Me too . . .

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                      • plsureking
                        bored
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 4905

                        #12


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                        • curlydoggo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2023
                          • 40

                          #13
                          Originally posted by net
                          I also have a question, how do you deal with the taxes? I pay 10% of my income in my country. and still, 10% seems like a lot to me.
                          Bulgaria? :D

                          In my country, it runs up to 50%... 10% sounds like a dream.
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                            • Jan 2015
                            • 4512

                            #14
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                            • Tasty1
                              Bla bla blaa
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 9529

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NatalieK
                              so yes, in the UK, all supplies, E.G. creators, should be paying 20% VAT on their incomes...

                              here in Spain...



                              other than the above it´s 21%...

                              the tax and vat can hurt, but then the cost of living is half that in the UK, anything, petrol, rent, insurance, food, drink, everything is very low cost & the sun´s out every day of the year, so it´s summer every day, hence the amazing life style & why i´m happy to pay the vat & tax costs
                              You don't pay the VAT, the consumer does. You only collect it from them to sent it to the government.
                              The VAT you pay for your business, (camera's, hosting, laptop) you get back.

                              I was wondering how much health care cost there are.

                              I think on Canary Islands, the tax is less (Income Tax / VAT).

                              everything is fake

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                              • plsureking
                                bored
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 4905

                                #16
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                                • CaptainHowdy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 94736

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Look Chang
                                  Me too . . .

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                                  • Tasty1
                                    Bla bla blaa
                                    • Jan 2005
                                    • 9529

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by net
                                    I also have a question, how do you deal with the taxes? I pay 10% of my income in my country. and still, 10% seems like a lot to me.
                                    10% is a good deal. You can compete with Western Europe freelancers that pay 40% (or more) and where life is more expensive. And earn the same amount of money, but pay 30% less tax.

                                    everything is fake

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                                    • Retiree
                                      Life is short
                                      • May 2012
                                      • 1486

                                      #19
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                                      • Tasty1
                                        Bla bla blaa
                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 9529

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Retiree
                                        Move to Panama, problem solved.

                                        Unless you are an US citizen. ;)
                                        And be able to bring 100 - 200K with you nowadays.

                                        everything is fake

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                                        • Manfap
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2013
                                          • 2626

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by NatalieK
                                          here in Spain we pay 21% tax on all our income & due to creating the content, we also pay 21% vat...

                                          We also pay autonomo here in Spain, this is similar to NI in the UK, .
                                          Spanish taxes are pissing me off, the new automomo quotas I'm paying 500€+ a month ontop of crazy tax rates.

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                                          • redwhiteandblue
                                            Bollocks
                                            • Jun 2007
                                            • 2793

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Tasty1
                                            You don't pay the VAT, the consumer does. You only collect it from them to sent it to the government.
                                            The VAT you pay for your business, (camera's, hosting, laptop) you get back.
                                            That is true but if you're selling to consumers, you can't collect it from them. If you're selling a product at $19.99 and then you suddenly go over the VAT threshold so you have to start paying it, you can't just add 20% onto your prices and expect to make the same sales. So effectively you're the one paying the VAT.
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                                            • Klen
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 32235

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by redwhiteandblue
                                              That is true but if you're selling to consumers, you can't collect it from them. If you're selling a product at $19.99 and then you suddenly go over the VAT threshold so you have to start paying it, you can't just add 20% onto your prices and expect to make the same sales. So effectively you're the one paying the VAT.
                                              If i would be lawmaker, i would make VAT automatically charged on each transaction (kind a like a cross sale on paysites) and that way seller would not need to collect it. Plus it would eliminate need for threshold

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                                              • NatalieK
                                                Natalie K
                                                • Apr 2010
                                                • 20123

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                I need to get those electricity usage meters. I haven't been writing off any home office power.
                                                Electric is so low cost in Spain, thankfully due to the country running on solar & wind, due to sell electric to
                                                Europe...
                                                Originally posted by curlydoggo
                                                Bulgaria? :D

                                                In my country, it runs up to 50%... 10% sounds like a dream.
                                                I thought similar! 10% omg yes please

                                                Originally posted by Tasty1
                                                You don't pay the VAT, the consumer does. You only collect it from them to sent it to the government.
                                                The VAT you pay for your business, (camera's, hosting, laptop) you get back.

                                                I was wondering how much health care cost there are.

                                                I think on Canary Islands, the tax is less (Income Tax / VAT).
                                                Agreeing, the vat is charged and then we pay the VAT to the country, but it still comes from my earnings, what goes in my bank, I pay the 21%VAT every 3 months, as should any creator...

                                                wtg tube site owners

                                                Health care, read below, going to speak with Manfap about automomo, this being health care & pension...

                                                Originally posted by Manfap
                                                Spanish taxes are pissing me off, the new automomo quotas I'm paying 500€+ a month ontop of crazy tax rates.
                                                it´s gone crazy! It´s a new system, helping those that were earning less & making the situation more equal, no it doesn´t!

                                                The lowest amount payable is for anyone earning 7k and under, then 10 and 15 and so on. So the government were making less to pay for lower earnings, but seems the lowest amount to pay out is what most people were paying anyway...

                                                basically, they´ve just added loads on for normal earnings! ouch...

                                                yes, it´s 500€ out of the bank monthly, however, if you ask anyone in the US or with personal healthcare, you´d pay 2k a year anyway. & with it also being pension, it´s ok, just a bit harsh.



                                                What we´re wondering, as we paid into the UK system for over the 20 year and now paying here, hoping to pay for the next 20 year, would we receive 2 pensions each or just the one from the country we live in?

                                                Logically, Brits live in Spain and receive the British pension, so i´d have thought if paying both countries over the years, won´t we both receive both pensions from both countries?
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                                                • Manfap
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2013
                                                  • 2626

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by NatalieK
                                                  Logically, Brits live in Spain and receive the British pension, so i´d have thought if paying both countries over the years, won´t we both receive both pensions from both countries?
                                                  You can get the years you paid into a UK pension moved over here, to count against the years you have to work, or at least you could when it was all EU, not sure now.

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                                                  • Tasty1
                                                    Bla bla blaa
                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                    • 9529

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NatalieK

                                                    What we´re wondering, as we paid into the UK system for over the 20 year and now paying here, hoping to pay for the next 20 year, would we receive 2 pensions each or just the one from the country we live in?

                                                    Logically, Brits live in Spain and receive the British pension, so i´d have thought if paying both countries over the years, won´t we both receive both pensions from both countries?
                                                    Don't know about UK situation. If you subscribe from the Netherlands, you get 2% less pension every year you ar out of the country. So if you are out of the country and not paying 20 years (you can pay voluntary in Holland to keep 100% pension), you get 40% less pension from The Netherlands. And i think Spain won't pay 100%, but also will look how many years you paid taxes there. Buti am not sure in Spain/UK. I think would be equal, else everyone would work in different countries for a few years when you get 100%.

                                                    In Holland there is also the rule, when you live abroad in a cheap country without agreements between those countries, they only pay 80% pension of the amount that you would normally get.

                                                    everything is fake

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                                                    • Manfap
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2013
                                                      • 2626

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Tasty1
                                                      Don't know about UK situation. If you subscribe from the Netherlands, you get 2% less pension every year you ar out of the country. So if you are out of the country and not paying 20 years (you can pay voluntary in Holland to keep 100% pension), you get 40% less pension from The Netherlands. And i think Spain won't pay 100%, but also will look how many years you paid taxes there. Buti am not sure in Spain/UK. I think would be equal, else everyone would work in different countries for a few years when you get 100%.

                                                      In Holland there is also the rule, when you live abroad in a cheap country without agreements between those countries, they only pay 80% pension of the amount that you would normally get.
                                                      My Spanish missus, transfered the year she worked in Nederlands to Spain, not sure how it works but that one year is added to her Spanish work record.

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                                                      • drexl
                                                        Whale Hunter
                                                        • Jan 2016
                                                        • 964

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Tasty1
                                                        You don't pay the VAT, the consumer does. You only collect it from them to sent it to the government.
                                                        Correct.

                                                        Originally posted by Tasty1
                                                        The VAT you pay for your business, (camera's, hosting, laptop) you get back.
                                                        Correct, when you acquire from a supplier who is located in your own EU country VAT is collected at the time of purchase, you can claim it back. If you acquire from abroad you have to self account for VAT because the supplier will not collect it.

                                                        Originally posted by Klen
                                                        If i would be lawmaker, i would make VAT automatically charged on each transaction (kind a like a cross sale on paysites) and that way seller would not need to collect it. Plus it would eliminate need for threshold
                                                        It has to go down that road eventually

                                                        Maybe an API at the EU level that payment processors have to use. This way EU admins could change rules easily in a centralized way.
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                                                        • fuzebox
                                                          making it rain
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 22352

                                                          #29
                                                          I've lived in third world countries with no taxes, and lived in first world countries with brutal high taxes.

                                                          Currently happier enjoying the first world and just paying the damn taxes while trying to make more.

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                                                          • NatalieK
                                                            Natalie K
                                                            • Apr 2010
                                                            • 20123

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Manfap
                                                            You can get the years you paid into a UK pension moved over here, to count against the years you have to work, or at least you could when it was all EU, not sure now.
                                                            Originally posted by Tasty1
                                                            Don't know about UK situation. If you subscribe from the Netherlands, you get 2% less pension every year you ar out of the country. So if you are out of the country and not paying 20 years (you can pay voluntary in Holland to keep 100% pension), you get 40% less pension from The Netherlands. And i think Spain won't pay 100%, but also will look how many years you paid taxes there. Buti am not sure in Spain/UK. I think would be equal, else everyone would work in different countries for a few years when you get 100%.

                                                            In Holland there is also the rule, when you live abroad in a cheap country without agreements between those countries, they only pay 80% pension of the amount that you would normally get.

                                                            Originally posted by Manfap
                                                            My Spanish missus, transfered the year she worked in Nederlands to Spain, not sure how it works but that one year is added to her Spanish work record.

                                                            the EU makes it so much easier. grrrr Why Brexit? ffs.. things were so much better and easier with the UK in the EU
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                                                            • 2MuchMark
                                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 50990

                                                              #31
                                                              My advice is don't fuckaround when it comes to taxes.

                                                              Get a good accountant and make every legal thing you can a tax deduction, but don't get cocky. If you think you are right about claiming a deduction that they disagree with by all means argue your point, but remember the the government has alot more time and money than you do. If you try to fight them on taxes, they will fight back.

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