An open Letter to Eric and Ice...

Ok.. real, or just the usual teen stuff we saw 7-8 years ago?

The word is not illegal, but not exactly worthy ASACP labels and common policy about terms in 2009.

Maybe these guys are working free-lance again? www.mossad.gov.il/eng/

blah blah blah. blah. blahblah. blah blah blah blah...

"everybody" didn't say rape the customer... Not sure which circle you are hanging out with, or wait I do LOL.

You bitched and screamed a couple years ago about companies that (OMG) would think about doing a simple cross sale and fuck their customers. You went on and on and on (and on and on and on and on) about how you would never fuck your customers. And what happened? Sometime after you started doing cross sales with Brazzers of all people? correct ?

You go from one extreme to the other, from being mr innocent, i would never even think about doing anything in the "grey" to jumping in bed with and defending the people who out right steal. But no matter what side of the fence you are on, you still manage to bitch and scream.

Another problem with this industry is all of the retards that got in during the mid to late 90's and got a good foot hold because the timing was just right for them, some still hanging around today but they have zero business sense or business ethics and just spout shit all day like it means something because they have been around so long. It's not the "new" people getting into this industry you should be worried about its most of the old ones still lingering around.

So now you're reduced to arguing about good grammar

Pathetic.

Did I miss anything, did we get an answer yet?

Money doesn't smell I believe

P.S. Let's promote ThePirateBuy and RapidShare here. Does Playboy loves them as well? Why not? At least if the pay good........

I have always cared about ethics and morals. That is why I stopped going to adult events because I was sick of the scum bags that will do anything to make a buck. Stealing is 100 percent wrong and anyone that supports or promotes it is a fool. People in this industry really need to take a band together and not keep attacking each other.

Haven't you seen the lately ads on the porn torrents at piratebay?

Just a little

Not really, just one or 2 people continuing to be seriously delusional.

I will post a pic in a minute.....

U sure that is why you stopped going to events Jane?
I didn't have anything to do with your agoraphobia???

See I guess I know you a little better than you think I do=

I don't have agoraphobia. I highly doubt you even know what that is. I have panic attacks, and they do not stop me from going out to events. I have had them for 6 and half years and the last adult event I went to was in 2007.

No you don't know me at all, but I laugh that you think you do. You are one of the people I was talking about that would sell their soul to devil to make a buck.

kinda low there.

It is cool Fletch. I think everyone on here knows Kevin needs to get attention on here any way he can get it. It just makes him look like an idiot.

Yep I am the idiot who has all the twitters saved form a few people who don't like you that states every medication you are on and what for-

Don't forget Jane- the web is a big, scary place where many don't like you.
I could care less about getting attention from YOU.

You make me no money.
Instead I am trying to get attention to the fact that
http://www.visit-x.net/rammstein
is LIVE and this band already has over 7 million vies to their new song.
First time this has ever been done my a major recording artists, incorporating the tubes as a way to get increased exposure.

Kind of timely isn't it with this thread?

Just stating facts.

you get a cookie for knowing something personal about her and sharing it with everyone else in the world when it is none of our business and has nothing to do with this thread.

do you feel better about yourself now ?


Looks like this thread is dead, Jane and KFizzle going at it again... for the next 5 pages.

wow. stalker alert.

Bad news over all for Playboy.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/11...easing-prices/
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The clock’s ticking for Playboy, folks.

During an earnings call earlier today, Playboy Enterprises‘ interim CEO Jerome Kern (who replaced Hugh Hefner’s daughter Christie after she stepped down last December) didn’t really have any uplifting news to share. The publishing company reported a $13.7 million net loss during the first quarter of 2009, more than 3 times the loss it took during the same period in 2008 ($4.2 million). Athough, we should note Kern indicated that the loss includes $8.7 million of “impairment and restructuring charges”.

In October 2008, Playboy laid off over a quarter of its workforce, axed its DVD business and its New York office and consequently merged its print and online operations to reduce costs significantly.

“These initiatives allowed us to offset all but $1.4 million of the nearly $17 million revenue decline and led to improved margins in our TV and digital businesses, despite a lower revenue base,” said Kern.

Lower revenue base, indeed. Revenues went down a whopping 26 percent compared to the same period in 2008, with digital revenue dropping to a lousy $9.3 million, down from $15.2 million during the first quarter last year. This was in big part due to the fact that Playboy decided to outsource its e-commerce operations. Domestic print didn’t perform all that well either, with reported revenue falling back to $13.5 million (down from $16.5 million during the first quarter of 2008). Total revenues for the period were $61.8 million, down more than 20 percent from $78.5 million a year ago.

The decline in revenues for Playboy is significant, and like so many others companies it is really struggling in this economy on all fronts of its business, and its publishing segment in particular. Fortunately, Playboy’s interim CEO has a brilliant game plan to save the print business from fading away:

From Folio:

“During the call, Kern said Playboy is considering “radical changes” of the print business model, including price increases, a frequency reduction and lowering its rate base of 2.6 million. The company said it would combine Playboy’s July and August issues into a double issue.”

That’s right, people! Fewer and fewer subscribers are opening Playboy’s magazines, and companies buying ad pages barely make up for the mere cost of printing and distributing them, but they’ve finally found the perfect solution to all their problems: charging more for fewer issues. Looking ahead, the company said it expects to report a 39% decline in magazine ad revenues in the second quarter compared to last year.

Anyone ever seen Blackadder? I think this memorable quote from an episode of the fourth season of that great TV series captivates my thoughts on this: “If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.”

Ten bucks says Playboy magazine doesn’t last as a standalone business.

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The comments in the article are also good.

Not really.
the real question here is how is GFY going to respond to this?

They won't.
While u all have valid points and are 100% in the right for not supporting stolen content, nothing will change.
It never does.

Remember this business was built on theft. I was around and saw people lifting images from the BBS days. It's how many ammassed their great wealth early on. It was the wild, wild, west.

If anything, this latest move to tubes proves that every business is cyclical.
It's all coming back to where we were in 96.

The only difference is this time the people who are being hurt the most, have invested the most in their content and businesses.

This business is a perfect representation of what is happening in our own backyard right now in the US.

The "Haves" have 99% of everything
The "Have Nots" are all scrambling for their 1 point and all fighting over it.

There has always been this disparity within the industry. Go back to the early days and see who controlled all of the traffic. Now go and look to see if they are still around as well as who they are aligned with.

You'll see the same usual suspects are all in bed with one another.
Unfortunately, yelling about the skin is quite futile.

The skin was meant to infuriate those of you who hate them, and to educate those who don't know about their "sizzle" pitch. The people who will fall for the tube/ billion impressions are bigger idiots than those who invested in Iporn IMHO.

Again, I love Cyber-Age Dave, and agree with him on many levels- it's just not going to make a bit of difference yelling on this board about it while the people running it are off partying in Amsterdam.

The money was sent, check was cashed, ad went up.
Nothing new to report here.

This is still a business. people still got to make payroll.
I watched AVN take money from people who have promoted way worse.

So this 3pic.com webmaster is associated with...

- content theft
- potentially non 2257 compliant content (if his tubes allow user uploads)
- the lol*ta word
- a beastiality tube

Anyone want to add anything?

Are we going to receive our Teen Rev payments today as scheduled?

Haha. Post them then. The only meds I have been on was Paxil until 2006 and then Xanax. I have mentioned that on here several times when asked about it. I have also always been honest about having panic attacks and anxiety. It has never been a secret. The only time I mentioned on Twitter was talking to Cassandra about it since she was having a hard time with depression.

Kevin you should go get checked by a psych. You are in serious need of one.

It looks like I was wise to take a short position on playboy stock awhile back ;-)

Fopr any programs who have a problem with this skin...are you going to pull your ads kin protest? Or will you just vocie an opinion and not take any action...

That's why this industry continues to eat itself and engage in self-destruction...no one ever really takes action...they just post their anger and shock on boards, but that's all they do....kind of like right wing radio call-in show listerners...

No I am not going to go at it with KB. He can call me every name in the book and I do not care. I think he proved that he is strange and stalkerish in this thread. I choose to ignore him from now on and wish him well.

Without getting involved in any way with the Jane B/ Kevin feud: What Kevin just said is exactly right.

The skin was meant to send a message to all of us. To let us know who took the industry over while you were arguing over x-sells that had already been in place for ten years. Message received. Brazzers owns this business and they feel pretty confident that none of us can do a thing about it. And they are probably right.

Wow, KFizzle's just a regular bottom feeder isn't he?

No wonder so many people don't have any use for the twit.

KB, who owns visit-x.net ???

hahaha

U guys don't get it.
Listen to some psycho bimbo who has no traffic or use to any of you.


I am sure you will all make tons of money listening to her pontificate.

And to be quite honest, plenty of people have use for me
They just can't afford me.

Germans

Lots of people thru out history thought they were invincible.. only to one day be found in the back of a car trunk...or washed up in the river. Dont think this is any different. Wait til someone loses his buisness and snaps.

Brutally true.

KB,
In real life you and I may get along like long lost brothers, but since we have never met, I can't say for sure. I know online people often fuck off and are not the way they are in real life, but by your board persona alone, I would love to smash your face in with a fucking shovel.

I watch Bill Oreilly because I hate him with every fiber of my being. He is like watching a bad car wreck, and I just can't turn away. I deeply hate the man I see and hear on TV. Your posts are the same way.

In case you are too stuck up your own ass to get it, this is a compliment.

thank you for saying exactly what I was thinking

This thread isn't closed yet?

Can you please FUCK OFF!

I am not a fan of Janeb either but every single fucking time she posts you have to jump in and take the thread off subject.

FUCK OFF KB YOU DICKHEAD!!!

Are you the same idiot that was complaining about c-luv not acting professionally ?

So in between doing publicity for rammstein your stalking some talent online and concerning yourself with her personal life by collecting 'tweets' LOL ?

Geez you sound like a real piece of work

I get it DWB-
and truth be told- you'd be a shocked by how I really am in person.
I know I met a webmaster here two weeks ago whom I had never met in person.

HE is a major player who doesn't go to shows and had never met me.
His initial opinion of me was the same- a blowhard, self promoting, prick.

Hey people hate my mentor, Howard Stern too.
But they still listen to what he has to say.

If people want to base their opinions off what they read on chatboards, then as you can imagine- I like to give them some entertainment.

Truth be told, I get a lot more visibility calling people out, then a " Would you hit it?" thread.

When you are in PR, it's all about getting exposure.
It's when people stop talking about me that I have to get out of this business.

I respect your opinion bro.

What type of sick joke is that? A board claiming to be "where the industry meets" helps out the very cancer destroying that industry? I think I finally get what GFY means...

KB is a god damn douchebag on GFY, but that's just his game. We all have a game.

No actually my gf Aaliyah Love keeps being sent these tweets and posts of hers talking about how she is on meds and afraid to leave her house.

I am sure she can post them if she wanted to truly waste her time.

I don't like when people try to fuck with me or my gf's business. Jane B tried, but she isn't smart enough to even make a dent in my gf's income.

Don't be such a moron- do u think Jane is going to sleep with you someday by sticking up for her?

Dave, you will never get an answer, Brazzers got this ad for free too, they got on the phone called up Playboy and said "we are gonna post every pic and video of your entire Playboy empire unless you give us free ads on GFY" and bingo ads for their traffic is up..

this is bigger than all of you... move on people..

I think you know better. If Yahoo and Amazon can be taken down, do you think a few tubes can't? Come on.

All these tubes that bother you can be taken down in a few days, illegally, or in a few months, legally. The real mystery is why the content owners continue to do nothing.

What if this isn't just a skin?

no answers, no popcorn

high school style remark, you are really a retard

correct, they know this, they own the board.

Tubes are here to stay. Adult companies are realizing that although most tubes are stealing all their content and using it to monetize unrelated paysites and dating sites, they're basically the only ball game in town for traffic. Tubes have stolen all the surfers away from TGPs, MGPs, and even search engines. Adult companies are advertising less and less with those old style sites, because they just don't generate the revenue numbers that make it worthwhile.

The industry is currently dying a slow death. Even the big tubes must realize this. Although they're doing well now, there will come a time, when the industry is completely saturated with tube sites showing full length stolen videos. Conversion ratios will continue to decline over the years as surfers realize more and more that they don't need to pay for porn.